Why I'm done messing around with strings (for now)

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  1. Doubles

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    I've made countless threads on strings. I've written in even more playtest threads than I can think of. Today, I played a set with Prestige Pro strung with Black Magic mains OGSM crosses at 49/51. I played no worse with that than I ever did with Gut/Poly or full poly. Maybe it's taken longer for me to realize it that some others, but today confirmed it for me: a poly/syn gut hybrid is just as good for me as anything else. For the first time in a long time, I'm content with my strings.
     
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  2. mikeler

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    See you back here next month. :twisted:
     
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  3. Xonemains

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    what are you talking about??

    One bad loss next week and hes searching for a new combo already, LOL :)

    no need to wait 1 month
     
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    Oh man, I hate to jump on the dog pile here when doubles seems so happy with his string. I can sorta intuit how that combo might work for at least one set. But I can think of a dozen low price options that play decently for a set. When those stiff poly mains start sawing thru the soft nylon crosses however, its a whole nuther deal.

    Hunting for one string that meets all of your needs is exhausting and seemingly futile at times. I've resigned myself too in a way. I've resigned myself to the notion that I will always have a few dif set ups in my bag at all times. Gut/Poly for my doubles play, Black Widow 18 for those days its clear my best chance of winning is bashing from the baseline, Full gut if I'm practicing 3-4 days in a row and need to be nice to my arm.

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    Well, I've already committed to reels of both, so I'll try different tensions, but I'm committed to this for a while.
     
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    I love poly mains and OGSM crosses. I think it will work great for you personally.

    OGSM is the best cross for me due to the feel and control. Add to that, a reel is under $40. That opens me up to spend a little more on my poly mains.

    Of course I am using a close patterned stick so it helps a lot with durability.
     
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  7. Larrysümmers

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    i used polylon and nylon in a 14*18 mid for a while. not as bad as people think.
     
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    I used Iontec in the mains and OGSM in the crosses for a long time until I finally tried Beast XP at 38lbs (in a prestige pro). It was the best change I've made and I actually get more consistent playing time out of it than I did with the poly/syn combo. Granted, it's a little bit more expensive but I'm not restringing every week anymore. I'm able to hit for about 3 weeks (twice a week) with one racquet before I have to think about restringing.

    You should definitely try it out. Between the comfort, control and feel, it's almost a no brainer.

    Good luck,

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    It's actually more likely that the OGSM will cut through the Black Magic.
    BM is so soft that it probably started notching just from weaving the crosses.
     
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    I have played with OGSM in the mains and poly crosses, how does the reverse differ in feel? I am using the Federer stick.
     
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    Its a little stiffer, but the control is awesome. Excellent ball feel if you like the feel of a crisper syngut.
     
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    As I said in my thread, I know what I like. It just took me being stupid to realize that the first great string I tested two years ago turned out to be the greatest string I've ever used. I play best with it because it feels right to ME, and simply play differently with other strings. By play I don't mean I play worse or better tennis, just that the feel is not what I'm looking for.
     
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  13. ChicagoJack

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    Huh, imagine that. If it's that kind of a soft poly, me now thinks Black Magic might be awesome to use as cross with gut mains.

    -Jack
     
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  14. fortun8son

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    It's a surface softness.
    I got a sample set from USRSA and tried stringing it in the mains with Head PPS 17 crosses.
    I was not impressed with the visible notching while stringing it.
    PPS is a bit rough. OGSM may have been a better choice.
    I hear it plays well, though. (at least in fullbed)
     
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  15. Steve Huff

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    Have you tried Zyex yet?
     
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    Zyex? No, though I've heard some good things about it.
     
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    6 hours in and my strings are holding up relatively well, I might get another two-ish hours out of them. I'm also going to try Syn gut mains, Black Magic crosses at 53-51, and then full black magic at 42-44 after this to see which set up I prefer the most.
     
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    I will be going from full poly to ogsm crosses and poly now. I am excited to see how it plays. The thing I hated about full poly was the trampoline-ish feel when it died after 6 hours.
     
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    I also love the poly / OGSM combo. I recently tried Forten Sweet as a cross instead of OGSM. Soooooo nice if you like a softer, plush feel. I am now getting all of the things I liked about a full poly setup, but with a less harsh feel and cheaper price.
     
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  20. Power Player

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    Agree..the 4g/ogsm setup I am testing out is killer. Im going to throw some cyberflash/ogsm in my other stick at the same tension just to do a little compare and contrast.
     
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  21. SteveI

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    The only downside I can see with the 4G is that is so low powered.. that you can get pushed around. Spin gereration is only ave in my book.
     
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    YEs, it is low powered. I strung it at 50 and I think 46-48 is really the ideal range. But I can hammer my forehand and serve and keep it in, so really I am just getting more control which helps a lot.
     
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    I too am on the same boat, I have been for the past 2 years. I always use MSV hex 18l mains and OGSM 18 crosses. I've consistantly played with a POG then Prestige MP and now a Pure Storm. Out of my 2 years of playing with this set up i've never have broken my crosses, its always the msv hex on the mains to go first.

    Its fun to test strings, write reviews, recommend them to friends. However, I found on this hunt for the "magic set up" to make me a better player. Truth is there isn't that holy grail, so i decided to never change my string set up after two years and i could not be happier. Tension changes based on racket but other than that it's stayed relively the same.

    Before there was that tiny part of me that wanted to say well its because these new strings have too much power, etc. That doubt has been removed by using the same set up for the past 2 years.

    If a ball goes long, its me.
    If a ball goes short, its me.
    Not enough spin, its me.
    Too much spin, its me.

    Using the same set up gave me the ability to really magnify aspects of my game that needed improvement whereas using different string every two weeks added too many variables.

    I just bought my fourth reel of msv hex and ogsm. =)

    Anyone notice the price of OGSM went up a couple bucks? At least the 18g i've been using.

    I know 18l and 18 are thin and a lot of people advise against it but i love the feel, and the bite. Not to mention it does make your racket a tiny bit more headlight compared to 17g or 16g. IMO my set up goes dead around the 3-4 week mark and my strings usually break around the 4 week mark so i don't ever have to worry about playing with bad strings.

    I'm glad you found your peace with the poly / ogsm set up like i have =).
     
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  24. SteveI

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    I also would string it at 45-46. At 52, I could not get enough stick on my ground strokes and my serve was getting beat up pretty good. In my book, there are much better strings out here for my game at a better price.
     
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  25. Or Tennis

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    It's nice to have different options, however, do you ever wonder if you'd play your most consistent tennis by getting used (muscle memory?) to only one setup? To elaborate, I know I have to hit the ball differently (harder) when I switch from a soft multi stringed racquet to a stiff poly stringed racquet.
     
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    I agree with using the same strings. It is huge. You want everything to be the same. Whenever i settle in with a stick and a string job, i get noticabley better. One of the reasons i went straight to the 4g. I know it is one of the best options out there.
     
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  27. DeShaun

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    i am also finished chasing strings for now. have played my best tennis with full beds of forten nylon.
     
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  28. COPEY

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    ^Don't see posts like that too often, but hey, more power to ya!
     
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    There is a lot to be said for that. I bought a stringer a couple months ago and been changing so much that I never gave anything a chance. Find something that works and stick for a bit.
     
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    While I like the rationale behind this post, I think one has to understand what he/she is after going in. In Irvine's case, which is probably similar to a lot of people who become addicted to testing strings, if you're looking for something that's going to transform your game, then you're going to be in for a long ride with not much to show for it in the end but an empty wallet. If, on the other hand, you simply like to test different strings, like seeing what's out there or maybe looking to find several strings you like for future use, no problem. Then there are those who simply do it as a hobby because they enjoy experiencing the various playing characteristics, writing reviews, sharing their experiences (Mikeler). In the process I think Mikeler settled on Microfibre for his go-to multi, but it certainly hasn't stopped him from testing; it's just what he does.

    I have a reasonably large inventory of strings, and while I can't say I've found a string that's truly wowed me, I enjoy testing what I have just to see what I like/don't like. I also want to be able to tell the people I string for what my experience was with a given string. That's pretty much it. Am I addicted? Probably definitely lol, but I know better than to expect a string to make me a better player.
     
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  31. mikeler

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    It took me a long time to find my beloved DM setup. Had I not tested a lot of strings, I never would have found it. Food for thought... :)
     
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  32. COPEY

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    Indeed. Mind you, I wasn't making fun of him - not in the least. In fact, I like that he prefers a string many consider garbage. I always tell people there's no such thing as garbage string, not really. It's all about what you like. ;-)

    True, Mikler...but you're still testing. That was my point (junky) lol.
     
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  33. Doubles

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    Good to hear you're content with something that's cheap and consistent. Most players can't say that.
     
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    So, it's not the same string that we playtested a while back? Because I remember hating that string.
     
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    I didnt playtest 4g. I paid full price for it, so trust me, I'm looking for reasons to spend less...lol.
     
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    I see. I tried it and thought that it was bland. It didn't feel much different than Gosen Polyon. To some that might be nice, but to me, it meant harsh and with poor tension maintenance. Knowing Lux, I knew they would charge top $$$ for it, so I never really looked into it once it came out.
     
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  37. mikeler

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    I'm actually back in hiatus for now. How will I know what the best string is for me if I don't test them all? :)

    At this point, I think I've found my holy grail. So you are right, it is just an addiction.
     
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    the tension maintenance so far is outstanding to me. Better than any poly I have used before.
     
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  39. bad_call

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    i would play test strings but the time and resource ($) required would cut into brewing, work, etc. so for now will ask the tennis buds their suggestions then decide. :)
     
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    Well, you do have to hit with something in your racket. The only way you miss out on beer funds is if you try higher end strings...like I sometimes do. :???:
     
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    Sounds interesting. I just can't afford the price tag on a string like that.
     
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    well of course strings are required to play. :) currently using stocked (accumulated) strings which occasionally changes with string trades, etc. thinking of picking up a couple new ones for hybrid test.

    majority of experimentation has been varying ingredients brewing IPAs. got a partial sponsorship but high demand hop varieties come out of my wallet. not complaining tho. samplers/testers give welcome feedback and praise which fuels the enthusiasm.
     
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  43. Power Player

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    I hear you. What helps me is using OGSM as a cross. And also seeing if I can get 15 or so hours out of the 4g. If I can, there is not much extra cost.
     
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    Still got the B5E stock left? I might be interested in trying that again in the Exo one day even though I know I should shun poly forever.
     
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    Well, in a hybrid it ends up being a little over $10, so after 15 hours it actually does end up being relatively cheap.
     
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    I still have black magic and cyberflash too, so I will be throwing them in the mix just for a nice comparison.
     
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    yup. getting down to the end of the 1st reel. haven't touched 2nd partial reel (from most excellent fellow trader). :)
     
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    The Exo gets so much spin with just a multi. I can only imagine what kind of whacky things the ball will do with B5E...
     
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    I have mine strung with klip legend black and isospeed baseline spin right now. It is pretty awesome.
     
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    Thanks to some of the contributors to this forum, I was able to "finalize" my string selection to BHBR 17 mains and Forten Nylon 16 crosses. The combo gives me 95% of what I want and doesn't do anything blatantly wrong. It is quite a relief not to worry whether the strings are the culprit and just focus on my game instead.
     
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