Why is Gimelstob employed?

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  1. cluckcluck

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    K know, he used to be a player, not a very good one, and he's got some experience on the tour, but come on! His announcing skills are the absolute worst!

    How is this guy continuously allowed to call matches?

    I feel like he took too many tennis balls right to the dome as a kid.
     
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  2. FrisbeeFool

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    At least he knows the game of tennis. I like his commentating. Why is Chris Fowler employed? Why is Pat O'brien employed? Why is Ted Robinson employed? Chris Fowler acts rude to most of the other commentators he works with. They're the ones that are ex-players and actually understand the game. He should show them some deference. Fowler's ego is huge! Can't stand the guy!!

    If broadcasts only hired people like Gimmelstob that actually know the game, I would use my mute button less.
     
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    Well, let's see. He can formulate coherent sentences. He's, apparently, not on drugs. He's a former pro tennis player. So they use him to do some commentary on some matches. He probably cultivated the necessary contacts while playing. No big mystery as far as I can tell.
     
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  4. jaggy

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    All that gets you the job. It doesnt mean you should keep it.
     
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  5. classic tennis

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    Unlike you he actaually played the game for a living. Get off his back he knows the game inside out, knows what he is taliking about and is a good guy.
     
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    You seriously think that only former players should be commentators?
     
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    I enjoy his commentating. Intelligent guy and had a successful career on the tour. Knows the players and the game well.
     
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  8. goober

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    General sportscasters are employed to appeal to the casual fan, not the hardcore tennis fans. It is done in many sports- football, basketball and baseball all have general sportscasters who never played the game on a high level. If only hardcore tennis fans watched the olympics or us open, then may be it would not be such a good idea but they are actually probably the minority.
     
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  9. FrisbeeFool

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    Yep, I like commentators like Gimmelstob and Brad Gilbert that know the game. They can talk about technique issues, players tendencies etc. I learn things when Gimmelstob's commentating. When it's Fowler or Robinson or someone else that doesn't know the game it's just a bunch of empty useless talk, i usually end up muting the tv.
     
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  10. RF20Lennon

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    when was fowler rude lol???
     
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    Ask his colleagues why he's employed, and they will tell you its because he works his skinny, nearly non-existent ass off. You may dislike his style, or think he uses unnecessarily large words, or repeats 'in the history of tennis' way too much during a match, but he loves the sport, he will watch almost any match with any players, and he will show up prepared. Also, he is one of the few who really does try to stop talking during points (but unfortunately NBC directed them to talk more not less during the Olympics). Listen to him and Leif Shiras call a match on TC together. They stop talking during points almost every time.

    He worked for these opportunities when he was still a player. He offered his time for free to Tennis Channel when they were just starting and they put him to work while he was recovering from foot surgery. He did some awesome networking, and maintained good relationships with many, many people. He's employed because he deserves to be and there is not one single commentator on TV today that doesn't have detractors who want them off the air.
     
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  12. GS

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    Here's a real mystery---why is Mary Carillo a NBC sports commentator at the Olympics now? Did her motormouth drive her from being a "tennis expert" to being an expert on volleyball, basketball, etc? (I'm so glad my TV's mute button still works.....)
     
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  13. Larrysümmers

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    i love his commentating as well. he gives great in site on what the players are thinking, and the reasoning why a certain ball was played etc etc. he does say some things that make you go....lol wut? but he seems like a class act and i enjoy is work.
     
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    He does try to force the humour some--I remember when he was commentating on one of Santiago Giraldo's matches and made the statement 'he's no relation to Giraldo Rivera'. Duh, really? One is a first name and one is the last. I also wish he would learn that the word 'forward' has not 1, but 2 'R's'--he says 'foward'--but I guess you can take the boy out of Jersey but can't take the Jersey out of the boy.

    Having done some TV commentary myself I can aver that it is not as easy as people think. I'd love to see how those who constantly criticize the announcers would do if they had to call a match live on TV. While he is not the best, I don't think Justin is the worst either.
     
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  15. Larrysümmers

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    whos that old british sounding fellow who commentates for TC at random 250 and 500 events throughout europe? i know its off topic but he gives great insite as well
     
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    Other than the verbal fellatio he gives to the American Davis Cup players, I think Gimelstob is a good commentator. As another poster stated, he and Leif Shiras together are superb.
     
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    I am not a total fan of Gimelstob but he is better than say Carillo or Shriver who both cackle and prattle on and on incessantly, half the time about players NOT even currently on court. He will at least focus on a match and usually has the sense to hush during points. While he can be over the top in hyping American players and can at times sound cocky when doing so...he at least is a former pro who sounds like one from time to time...again unlike Carillo...who I cannot believe held a tennis racquet.
     
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    1.) Former US Pro
    2.) Experienced on the Pro Circuit
    3.) Understands the game
    4.) Understands the emotions that players go through
    5.) He loves the game, even though he's retried he is still trying to be active in some way for tennis and I think that is great!
    GO Gimelstob, representing NJ! Or was...
     
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  19. Lefty78

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    If GOD himself commentated a tennis match, he'd get flamed by half the people on these boards.
     
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    ^Not that I'm a huge Gimelstob fan, but he's above average in many ways
     
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    Word. Word to your mother. :)
     
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  22. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    he's ok.

    tell you who is a fantastic commentator, Lleyton Hewitt.

    who knew?
     
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    I can't say I've ever heard Hewitt commentate! Any matches I could look up to take a gander?

    -Fuji
     
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  24. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    he is only on the local Melbourne channel 7 at the AO, and only after he, well, loses, so you usually have to wait for the second week, lol.

    He was fantastic this year for the semis, though. When he says 'Novak's serve is deceptive, there is more spin on that one down the middle than people think' you kind of BELIEVE him!

    here is a snippet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuzZQje5WQ

    here's an article about it : http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-commentary-role/story-e6frecj3-1225996763336
    (oh, I've got those strings sorted out for you, too, shoot me an email, there are a few choices.)
     
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    Perfect! Thanks! :D

    I'll send you an email shortly!

    -Fuji
     
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  26. sureshs

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    Why are you employed?
     
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  27. Power Player

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    Gimmelstob is a cool guy. I met him in Miami in a situation where he could have been very "egoish", and he was instead very nice and laid back.

    It is easy to hate people from a distance.
     
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    Gimelstob, unlike the OP, can fashion coherent sentences and probably even knows the difference between "continuously" and "continually." He's intelligent, personable, attractive, speaks comfortably on camera, and is very willing to express opinions. I don't at all mind hearing him on a broadcast
     
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    she knows him personally
     
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    I gotta agree Chris Fowler is a arrogant jerk on air. Pat O'Brien was not employed or a while. I don't know how he got a job again. He was involved in a controversy a few years ago leaving voicemails that were suspect. I guess he has some good friends in the "business" that gave him a job again.
     
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  31. MasturB

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    Not really a mystery but an easy one.

    She's contractually obligated to work with NBC's networks (which is why she also does contributing pieces to Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel for HBO which I believe has a deal to work with NBC Sports).

    Therefore they can use her to do any thing sports related, just like they're using Al Michaels and Dan Patrick to cover sports as well. Their lead Hockey announcer was doing Water Polo, Handball, etc.
     
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    Haha. I was thinking the same thing. It's hilarious how he describes someone like Mike Bryan. The best clutch, ad court, 40-15, on a sunny day, with a stiff breeze, returner in history.
     
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  33. Larrysümmers

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    ^the signs of a good commentator
     
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    I laughed out loud pretty hard when I read this, thanks!:)

    As for me, I have enjoyed Gimelstob's commentary
     
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    I don't care for JG, but maybe he'll get better. He seems to search for "cool" terms like "liquid power" and overuse them, but again maybe he'll get better.

    The best duo commentating ever was Cliff & Fred.

    To you younger posters, just be glad you didn't have to sit through a tennis match commentated by the one, the only Howard Cosell. Now that was painful.
     
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  36. GS

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    Or a match commentated by Bent Hamburger (er, Brent Musberger). When ABC signed him years ago, he called a match---he was so bad, they yanked him from that sport. Golf, too.
     
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    Lawd help me, I love Gimel like family, but this comment made me LOL. :)
     
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  38. NadalAgassi

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    That is a good question. I honestly have no idea.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Recently he was doing funky stuff on a touch screen
     
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  41. Paul Murphy

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    Hewitt is terrific.
    His analysis is always perceptive, well thought out and expressed.
    It also helps a lot that's he's a current player - it's an insight most can't provide.
     
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  42. Larrysümmers

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    JG is always cherry and smiling when he is talking, you can tell he is having a load of fun while working, and that results into good commentating
     
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    Early Gimel. said what he wanted, rather than trying to be PC all the time and boring people to death... It's too bad he came under scrutiny and has now toned it down.
     
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    Yes, but that would mostly be because of the echo.
     
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