Why is hamburg clay? Isn't it past clay season?

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  1. ST_spitzertelescope

    ST_spitzertelescope Semi-Pro

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    Bit strange, even federer is playing hamburg.. shouldn't he be practising on hard courts for the US open.

    And what's hamburg doing at this time of year anyway, it's clay, it should of happened in the clay season?
     
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  2. bluetrain4

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    There are clay events basically all year. The most prominent ones generally occur during "clay season" but there many clay tournaments played at other times of the year.
     
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  3. stringertom

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    So soon we forget...Hamburg was a MS1000 lead-up to RG until Tiriac threw his money around and wrangled Madrid into the spring clay calendar. Hamburg got bumped, went down to a "500" and took a spot in the post-Wimby clay cycle along with Bastad, Stuttgart (moving to pre-Wimby grass cycle), Gstaad and Kitzbuehl (sp?).

    There's enough lead-up to the USO, both timewise and sitewise, to allow these tourneys their space on the calendar.
     
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  4. dirtballer

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    There's also a mini-clay court season at the beginning of the year before Indian Wells. It's mainly in Mexico and South America. Nadal played it this year.
     
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  5. ST_spitzertelescope

    ST_spitzertelescope Semi-Pro

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    Why would federer be taking part in hamburg clay?
    especially before US open.
     
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  6. Duncan Bell

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    Either for ranking points or lederhosen. I guess we'll never know.
     
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  7. Down_the_line

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    Remember when Hamburg used to be a fairly prestigious clay court Masters event? Yeah, that's why.

    As someone on here suggested awhile ago, I do with they would switch to a grass surface, regain Masters status, and become the first grass court Masters event taking place two weeks before Wimbledon or so.
     
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  8. newpball

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    It is always clay season except when there is snow or ice. :)
     
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  9. Mainad

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    I suspect he wants to try and boost his ranking points. He lost a lot after his early exit from Wimbledon and he has an eye on making sure he qualifies for the WTF at the end of season.
     
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  10. ST_spitzertelescope

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    So in that respect, it should be quite good to watch if he genuinely wants to win it also for an ulterior motive.

    Some tournaments you just don't feel players have their hearts in it and so for this I'll try and catch his games here.
     
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  11. smoledman

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    Clay is the perfect surface to fix malfunctioning groundies.
     
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  12. jaggy

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    Stay out the American humidity a bit longer too
     
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  13. Murrayfan31

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    I would say hardcourts are. True bounce and true footing.
     
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  14. romeo8880

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    Federer is losing his mind and very confused. He's desperate at this point to win tournaments because he can't believe David Ferrer is ahead of him in the rankings. He's probably extremely distraught over it.
     
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  15. Rhino

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    What is the big deal here? There are clay tournaments after the Aus Open too, and there have always been clay tournaments after Wimbledon.
    Federer loves playing Hamburg and he had some incredible results there (bagelling Nadal on clay in a final springs to mind).
    For over ten years Federer never had this much time on his hands since the 2nd round of Wimbledon. Why not go and play a tourny you love for 500 ranking points? And also it's the tourny that first saw Federer enter the top 10, plus it's a great warm up to the Swiss Open, also on clay, which he has generally missed because of his deep runs at Wimbledon.

    Canada and Cincy are plenty good enough for a US Open warm-up. If you look at last year, Federer actually posted great results when he played more tournys/matches. He's definitely far from tired at this point, lets put it that way.
     
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  16. Hood_Man

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    It gives the clay specialists a chance to earn a living all year round as well.
     
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  17. brianb76

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    Fed wants to test out new frames?
     
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    ??????????? what? true bounce? Do you have idea when ppl started playing tennis? Were there at that time hardcourts (concrete + syntethic cushioned surface)???
     
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  19. Deanjam

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    Do people only pay attention to tournaments when Federer & Nadal are playing? July/early-August's been clay court season in Europe for ages. It gives the clay court specialists a better lead up to the US Open.
     
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  20. hersito

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    Exactly, I pity people that has no clay courts in their country/state/city.
     
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  21. Beryl

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    February to July is basically all year?

    Simply, there's more clay court events than can be enclosed into that short "clay court season" from Monte Carlo to RG. And that's fine.

    Weather is an issue too. Best to have the South American swing in Feb-March and best to have Bastad and Hamburg in July.
    You must be new here. This isn't much of a tennis forum this, more of a Top 4 forum.
     
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  22. egn

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    Man it's clear people never watched tennis in the 90s. There used to be clay all year round. Bucharest, Palmero, Bogota and a handful of others would be post US Open and early October. Just look at how Thomas Muster got to number 1 he played like 15 clay tournaments in a year.
     
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  23. MarkZepa

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    Australia don't have clay courts :(
     
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  24. stringertom

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    Also, Vilas' incredible win streak in '77 was stopped at a clay tourney in the fall held in France.
     
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