Why is no one talking about the potential NOLE slam?

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  1. mcenroefan

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    This boggles my mind: I mean when Nadal had the chance to make it four in a row, you would have thought this board and the world of tennis announcers were going to blow like Mount Vesuvius. It was hyped beyond all imagination. Every thread on the board was a debate over whether he might be on the cusp of achieving a Rafa Slam or a Grand Slam.

    I have a feeling that there would be at least some hype as well if it were Fed.

    But, when it's Nole, there's barely a whisper.

    I think Nole is getting shafted a bit....both on the hype and, candidly, on the manner in which they are fixing, uh pulling, the draws.

    It's like the tennis world invested so heavily in Nadal, and before that Fed, that it just can't bring itself to hype/promote anyone but them.

    Thoughts?
     
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    its the French Open...nobody is talked about other then Nadal
     
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  3. El Diablo

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    OK, let's talk about it. It might happen. It might not. Did I leave anything out?
     
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    Really? That's all they've been talking about,and even made a freaking commercial about it. As a matter of fact,they talk about Rolaids incessantly,no matter if he is playing or not. I think they are desperately trying to make him more popular,but are failing miserably at it.
     
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  5. mcenroefan

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    Well, if he does it, he will have achieved something that neither Fed nor Nadal has achieved.....you'd think there would be a tad of discussion about it....at least a prefatory to the possibility that some guy who played with Fed and Nadl now has achieved something that the supposed GOATS never did.

    Maybe all of this GOAT talk has put tennis in a corner and they have a vested interest in perpetuating the myth that Fed and Nadal are better than Borg, Connors, Laver, etc combined????

    Anyway, I think it's very odd.

    Nevertheless, I admire your perfunctory analysis.
     
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    Because he's not very popular.
     
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    He doesn't have the star power of Fed/Nadal and he's not the favourite for the FO this year the way Nadal was for 2010 AO.
     
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    No one cares about Novak.
     
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    make that 2011 AO
     
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    Nadal winning is a given....so why bother. The french, media, and true tennis lovers have been demoralized when it comes to the clay season!
     
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    That's it pretty much. I would find it highly amusing though if Nole achieves what Fedal never could, and I look forward to seeing the tennis world's reaction.

    Fed will always be the greatest in my book, but hats off to Nole for his accomplishment - IF he can win FO this year.
     
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    because given that Djokovic has been beaten pretty easily by Nadal in the last 2 clay meetings (his most useless performances vs Nadal on clay since 2006, in fact quite possibly ever - every other year they played he managed to at least make one match more competitve than Rome and MC) it's looking pretty certain Nadal will win RG like he does nearly every year. If Djokovic had just won Rome, there would be huge talk about it. There was big talk a while ago but Nadal has gotten the upperhand again just before the event.
     
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    In Spain? Maybe you are too much in love with Nadal to see if any other player is popular.
     
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    Rolaids will win it,and in 2 weeks you will get to see for yourself.

    And WHO CARES that Rolaids lost to Nadal in MC and Rome? It means absolutely nothing,and won't stop him from winning RG.
     
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    I find it very amusing, when some retards here claim 'nobody cares about Novak' ... we are talking about #1 player in the world ... a multiple GS champion. wtf, people do you want?

    NOBODY, cares about you who have never achieved anything in your miserable lives ...

    Fed is great, not question about it ... but if Novak manages to win RG, it's going to be big ...
     
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    He is not an endearing champion.
     
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    Finally someone normal here.. people posting that they "dont care" at all about this big (possible) achievement are not the real tennis fans, instead they are a bunch of miserable Nadal and Rog fans (probably stupid kids).
     
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    no, hun ... what is entertaining to you ...do you really need to be entertained? have you ever read a book in your life? Have you ever played tennis? I'm loving Djoko right now because nobody else does ... I love Murray because nobody else does love him either ... and you people can keep going with Rog (who, I also love) and Nudall like forever ... meh
     
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    Because we don't want to jinx him. :cool:
     
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    Nadal gonna win it, not Djoker
     
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    Because even if he did it would mean very little considering the homogeneity of courts today.
     
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    OP, this has been talked about, along with the other possibilities like Nadal winning a 7th French Open.

    There are still clear differences between the surfaces today, just not as drastic as in the 1990s.
     
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    Not clear enough that 2 pushers are dominating the supposedly fast slams like Wimbledon and US open.
     
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    Novak is a good guy but he'll always be 2nd fiddle as long as Nadal and Federer are around. Even Adidas dumped him for some Scottish clown. Poor Djokovic :cry:
     
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    He isn't the BIG favourite I suppose. He won the Australian Open and asserted his dominance, then Federer went on a tear and was for a short while the best player, then the clay season started and Nadal took over as the best player, and now going into the final big event of the clay season I don't see Novak having much momentum.

    Last year he had 2 wins in a row on clay over the most successful clay player for generations, possibly ever, and that's what made him such a favourite. This year he's had two defeats, and Nadal no longer looks afraid of him.

    Things will change as we get further into the event, and if Novak can reach the semis in relatively comfortable fashion THEN the talk will really start to kick in again.

    Right now though I'd say Nadal is a much bigger favourite, and when Nadal is a big favourite for a clay event it's hard to muster much enthusiasm for someone to take him down.

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    It IS being talked about though, but I'll admit the hype isn't what it was last year.
     
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    right, your crystal ball is working just fine, you need to tune it up or down a bit :shock:, well I was gonna ask you the winning lottery numbers ... could you help a bud? thank you
     
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    I think the hype will start up in full force next week, when an upcoming match between Novak-Nadal is closer and there's less players around. It will be used to hype the final, since there are 2-3 potential outcomes. Nadal wins 7 FO, Novak wins 4 slams in a row, or Federer wins another GS. Don't see any other option out there at this point.

    BTW, this has been mentioned all along by the commentators.
     
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  28. Towser83

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    This is like 2011 in reverse with *******s insisting djokovic couldn't beat Nadal in a final, then another final, then on clay, then in a slam.

    Djokovic has for play better to beat Nadal. way better. he's had his worst year vs Nadal on clay since 2006. No way rolaids beats senor silla without upping his game drastically, plus he likely has to beat fed to even get to Nadal. He has totally lost the mental advantage over Nadal.

    If Nadal wins will you drop this crap about Novak winning and beating Nadal when we move on to wimbledon? Don't say he won't, just suspend your disbelief for a moment and live in the same universe that saw Nadal beat djokovic twice in a row without losing a set.

    if Nadal wins will you drop this act or will you carry on the jinxing rubbish?
     
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    Who do you think is going to win it?
     
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    Yeah,just like he played so much better all through Wimby last year,but still beat Nadal in the final right? Or even before that,where Nadal played better than he did throughout most of the clay season,but Rolaids still beat him the Rome and Madrid finals right? For the last time,how these two are playing up until they face each other means jack. Nadal still loses no matter if he's played the better of the two or not.


    No he hasn't. Nadal has not beaten Rolaids in a slam in 2 years. He has lost 7 finals to him,3 of them in slams,yet you think 2 meaningless wins in MC and Rome is suddenly going to fix mental destruction like that? Get real.


    Nadal won't win sh*t,so there will be nothing to drop.



    Again,totally meaningless,and won't matter whatsoever in the slams.



    Nadal is not going to win,and I am not doing any sort of jinxing rubbish. Nadal hasn't won anything that really matters in a year. He is not about to start now,especially if he makes the final to face Rolaids.
     
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  31. Towser83

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    Well fed has failed to do it in 9 years of winning slams, Nadal has failed to do it in 7 years of winning slams. federer has failed because of Nadal and Nadal has failed because he has not been consistently good enough on hardcourt. if Djokovic manages to get past both these issues (the latter he pretty much has) then that is still a big deal. just winning 4 straight slams even if they were on the same surface is a big deal.
     
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  32. Murrayfan31

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    Djokovic will win RG. He likes the heavier balls and will rally until the end if possible. Poor Nadal will be exhausted and have more knee problems after the RG final.
     
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    I don't know ... I guess Nadal or Djoko, if I have to guess ... I just don't like when people make bold predictions .... it would be funny if someone out of the 3 Gods wins it, I'd love it :)

    on the other hand I think I'll be cheering for Novak so I can tease, use and abuse NSK forever, lol.
     
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    Except he DID beat him the last 2 times they met. I'm not comparing the form they are in in each tournament up til meeting, i'm discussing the form Djokovic was in WHEN HE PLAYED NADAL. Got it? He couldn't take a set off nadal and if he plays like that in RG Nadal will beat him without having to play better than his C game.

    The first time Djokovic beat Nadal was Wimby 2011 which isn't even a year ago, so his slam dominace has lasted less than a year. You try and word it so it seems like Nadal has been Djokovic's toy in slams for twice as long.

    Also it works both ways, djokovic lost to nadal in 5 slams in a row incuding the US Open which was on a surface that gives Djokovic the edge and where he had more experience, also lost again on hard at the WTF. So did the meaningless wins in masters tournaments fix his mental disadvantage? Yeah they did.

    And your inabillity to even answer a straight hypothetical scenario question on what your opinion will be if nadal does win, shows you are either trolling or jinxing. Your tired agenda had some basis in reality while nadal was losing all the time but it's continuance in the face of him winning is exposing you. When he wins RG and you continue to say he will never win, it will be totally transparent.

    It's a simple question, if nadal does somehow win RG will you drop this agenda of proclaiming he cannot win a slam/beat djokovic etc? You said he'd never even make the final of rome, so assume for a moment you're wrong again like you have een about 50 times this year alone.

    I know you won't answer because you're scared you might have to actually stop posting like this if he wins.
     
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    Chicken Little loves the attention obtained from being a huge fan of Nadal's that is the only realistic fan, no matter if Nadal wins or not. Nadal was going to lose at MC no matter that Djokovic's grandpa had died.... Nadal was going to lose at Rome, but it means nothing cause Nadal hasn't won a slam in almost 2 years.... Of course, that math is pretty bad since Nadal won in 2011 USOpen against Novak. But, pesky little details don't bother Chicken Little.
     
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    With all due respect, but only an idiot can say that nobody cares about Novak. This subject is one of the spotlights at the French Open, he's asked about it at every presser, others too (Fed, Serena etc.), also among the tennis legends who mention it all the time. Then again, this is TW forum, majority here are Fed fans. If he does it, he's got a legend status to his name and a more popularity, that's for sure.
     
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    He did? That sure is news to me because I seem to remember he lost his a** in 4 sets.


    Obviously they don't bother you either,since you can't even manage to get the year right when Nadal last beat Rolaids in a slam.
     
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    If by some miracle from God himself Nadal wins RG,it won't be by beating Rolaids. And even if he did,I still don't think it changes the dynamic between them much. Those 7 final losses with 3 of them being in slams is total domination,and beating Rolaids a whopping once in a slam(don't make me laugh)out of all those chances is not impressive at all.


    You got your answer,and :lol: to your thinking I would be "scared" of posting again if Nadal wins. Give me a break,Towser. :lol:
     
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    you don't like him do ya?
     
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    I didn't say you wouldn't post again, i said you were scared that you might have to drop the same line you have been spouting for ages.

    Also first you say not slam matches don't mean anything but you say one match win in Roland garros won't mean anything next to 7 losses, but that means you're including non slam wins. he's only lost to Djokovic 3 times in slams so 3-1 isn't bad especially as Nadal beat Djokovic 5 times in slams previously. Djokovic turned it around so why can't Nadal? If you talk about 7 losses you have to count 3 wins and counting for Nadal if he wins in Roland gaross, not one. This is the same bs as counting novak's 6 month period of slam dominace over Nadal as 2 years :lol:

    Basically if Nadal beats Djokovic in the next 3 slams you will still go on like this. even if Nadal won the next 20 matches against Djokovic, including the next 6 slam meetings, you would still be claiming Nadal will never beat him again. you may need help. its ridiculous beyond belief.
     
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    ........because Nadal is the absolute favourite. People know what Djokovic can achieve but also know that's an uphill battle all the way through.
     
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    People do...just not on TW. We're all apparently Fed fans here, so we obsess over him winning, while hating on Nadal. Those two get all the discussion, which Nole is sadly neglected. When Nole beats Fed a couple more times, he'll get his time in the spotlight here.
     
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    Fixed it for ya.
     
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    not many people want him to win it.

    let's be honest here
     
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  45. Murrayfan31

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    Speak for yourself. I would love it. He is great for tennis. :)
     
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    He has a lot of haters. I wonder how it feels for him to go to each country and have so little support compared to Roger.

    It's also so hilarious how he tries to get more fans by attempting to speak french. LOL
     
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    People ARE talking about it. I'd say the hype is similar to Nadal's attempt at the "Rafa Slam" last year in Australia....but since neither is/was the favorite at the event, they are/were more like side-line discussions.

    EDIT: I think it might have been a 3-way tie for favorites in that tournament: Fed, Novak & Nadal. Nonetheless, the "Novak Slam" is definitely on a lot of people's minds. It's just that it's not the "most likely" scenario to occur at RG at the moment. But when we get into the 2nd week (assuming Novak is still in contention), then the talk will certainly ramp up.
     
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  48. NadalAgassi

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    I thought Nadal was the favorite for the 2011 Australian Open, atleast pre tournament. I wonder if he wasnt then who was.
     
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    that's bcoz it ain't gonna happen !!
     
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    Well, in the impending days of 'Rafa slam', Nadal had loyal, dedicated and devoted fans who would ensure that every thread on the board is about the 'Rafa slam' and the aftermath so you didn't forget it for a single minute. Must say poor Nole isn't as lucky. If only we had some Nolezillas on the board, this wouldn't have been the case.
     
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