Why Is The Clay Warrior So Hard To Beat

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  1. Graf=GOAT

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    That has got to be a joke. Laver wouldn't be top 20 today.
     
  2. Death Master

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    laver would be unemployed today.

    too short for any job except for the circus.
     
  3. Death Master

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    what is nadal`s greatest weapon?
     
  4. helloworld

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    Laver would humiliate Nadal on all surfaces apart from clay with wooden racquet.
     
  5. Death Master

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    what are you smoking?

    it must be good.
     
  6. Povl Carstensen

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    I did not say he did not keep his mental composure (allthough it has slipped at times, like the Rosol incident), rather that he looks furious, indignant.
     
  7. Death Master

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    tennis court is a battlefield. did you think it was a church?
     
  8. Crisstti

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    Lol, no he doesn't. In fact, he looks pretty much the same whether he's winning or losing.
     
  9. Povl Carstensen

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    I guess we see things differently. and what about the fist pumping etc. Not that I actually mind fist pumping.
     
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  10. Povl Carstensen

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    No I did not, but interesting comparison.
     
  11. clayqueen

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    That's the truth, no?

    I have been in awe of Nadal from the first time I saw him play. Even though Roger is said to have the best talent, I am struggling to see it and never have, that's why I went off tennis for a while until Nadal came along.
     
  12. Death Master

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    nadal is getting smarter with age. he knows exactly when and how to play a clean match.
     
  13. Chico

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    A spear through his knee means doomsday indeed. :lol:

    This is like a voodoo doll, nice DM, nice :)

     
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    Easy answer:

    1) discipline - he was tought to play this shot in this situation and he does
    2) he is not dumb to not watch and predict where the next shot will go
    3) fitness and stamina
    4) extraordinary low error rate - great coordination
     
  15. octobrina10

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    Rafa has good relationships with many great athletes from other sports.
    As for football players, they and Rafa are mutually fascinated. Rafa is a huge Real Madrid (Football Club) fan and he knows many of the world's best football players personally. Footballers of Real Madrid (Cristiano Ronaldo and others) have watched Rafa's matches at the Madrid Masters.
    Rafa has played football-tennis with C. Ronaldo (the highest-paid footballer in the world) and has interviewed him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-VyW4Ix7o


    As for NBA, Pau Gasol (a Spanish basketball player for NBA) and Rafa are friends. Pau Gasol was in Rafa's box at the French Open in 2012 and 2013.
    http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Pau+Gasol+Rafael+Nadal+Wins+French+Open+tKgArsKoN5Nl.jpg
    http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rafael+Nadal+Paul+Gasol+2013+French+Open+Day+jIuseApa9Ujl.jpg
     
  16. ledwix

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    The thing that makes his game different from anyone else's is the topspin. Other players can hit the ball hard, run fast, endure a long match, and stick to a good gameplan, but Nadal's game just has so much potential and angles. The court is a few inches bigger for Nadal than for other players due to his higher RPM rally ball that drops a little faster. That makes a huge difference, and then there is the fact that some of his forehands look like kick serves.

    Whenever I actually go out and play tennis, which isn't as often these days, I realize how great Nadal is because of how hard it is to consistently attack those high balls that kick over your shoulder. That barrage must be incredibly hard to hit through, even for Djokovic.
     
  17. The Dark Knight

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    While all that is true .....what is even a bigger weapon is his problem solving skills .

    He just deals with everything and adapts.

    If courts were fast today Nadal would figure out a plan and beat Sampras. He is the smartest player ever.
     
  18. RF20Lennon

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    LOL!! good one! if the courts were fast today, your boy would be getting manhandled. Nadal isn't the smartest player on the tour. He basically uses the same strategy except that his wins depend on how his opponents are playing. 2011 Djoko was crushing him because his confidence was supreme and he was making every shot left and right. 2013 Djoko?? not even close, not many mistakes and not mentally tough enough.

    Nadal has the same strategy. Topspin to the backhand/forehand depending on the opponent over and over again and grind. Most of the time it works, sometimes it doesnt.
     
  19. Death Master

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    difficult nadal does right away.

    impossible takes a little bit longer.


    bring on the fast courts.
     
  20. TadDavis

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    His ability to focus is what really impresses me. I think people take for granted how remarkably clean his typical matches are. He just doesn't give many points away.
     
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    welcome to the forums taddavis.
     
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    Thank you.

    Yeah, the guy is tremendously focused- it's incredibly rare to see him let the moment get to him.
     
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    You guys focus too much on the importance of technology; have a look at former and current basketball players and don't tell me that the current ones are not way better overall, then the lumberjacks from the 70's?

    Same in tennis.
     
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    1) endurance 2) speed 3) consistency 4) countering 5) adaptability- something my main man has never seemed to get a grip on 6) generating troublesome spin
     
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    He has the art of PEDs down to the T, and now he knows how to look "clean" when needed?
     
  26. Death Master

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    yes you can go buy that topspin in a bottle.

    and while you are at it, pick up a bottle of relentless will and also one for testicular fortitude.

    insane athletic ability also comes in a bottle these days.
     
  27. The Dark Knight

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    He wins with strategy.....no steroid will help with that.
     
  28. Death Master

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    a famous athlete said this about him recently:


    "he was born to win tennis matches."

    to nadal a match is a combat between 2 gladiators and it is.
     
  29. henryshli

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    I beg to differ if his strategy is to outlast his opponents. From the length of his matches I do wonder if indeed he has a strategy.
     
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    Rafa's competitiveness was exceptional from the start and the most extraordinary is that 10 years later, it seems completely intact, if not even more ferocious. The single-mindedness of Rafa's determination and purpose is rather unique.
     
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    and now he also benefits from his vast experiences on the biggest of stages.



    I liked what I saw at the u.s. open.


    determined like a ferocious gladiator and yet he had this certain calm about him at the same time.

    calmness and composure was needed to think more clearly on the court.
     
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    If you really think his only strategy is to outlast his opponents, your knowledge of tennis must be quite limited. If you're going to hate on Nadal, at least put some effort into it.
     
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    I can tell you why he wins:


    1. athletic ability on loan from the gods

    2. relentless will

    3. ability to think clearly and solve problems on the court

    4. topspin

    5. ability to focus on the task that is in front of him. he takes it one step at a time. and just one point at a time.

    6. above average VO2max
     

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