Why Nadal says "no?" after some sentences

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  1. ESP#1

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    I notice alot of people like to joke nadal for saying "no?" after each sentence. I don't get me wrong when done in good taste it is funny. What bothers me is when people begin to assume that he isn't intelligent or articulate just because he doesn't speak english well.

    To those who criticize let me ask this. How many languages do you speak? I know you don't speak spanish because if you did you would realize that Nadal is a pretty smart 22 year old. Is Andy Murray dumb? I mean he trained in Spain for a while and couldn't even say a few words when he won the masters in madrid.

    Anyway "no?" is an abbreviation for "no crees" which means "don't you think?" which is a very common phrase used in Spain.
     
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  2. miyagi

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    I thought most people understood why he did this?

    Well....anyone who had traveled or spoken to someone who's first language is not English...

    His play shows he is very intelligent....
     
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    You'd be surprise what people on these threads know and don't know. Thought I would clarify.
     
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  4. Leublu tennis

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    Thanks. Coming from California I have had a broad brush with Spanish and have frequently been on vacation in Mexico. Yes, I do understand but am also guilty of making jokes about the "no". Your comment should make me think twice before I do it again. Good work!
     
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  5. skip1969

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    i'm not sure anyone on here actually thinks nadal is dumb. it's just something to poke fun at.
     
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  6. tahiti

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    The English do the same thing all the time. They tag questions onto the ends of sentences, don't they?

    The French do it too, only they use the word "non" for confirmation. Oui, c'est bon non?

    The Dutch do it too "ik vind het best mooi weer, ja toch?" (it's nice weather isn't it?)

    The Spanish do it too, similar to the French as they are all latin based languages no?

    Has nothing to do with intelligence at all. Has to do with language and culture. :)
    Just makes Nadal more cute and diverse. Nice change from Roger's "Yeah man, you know"
     
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  7. seffina

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    Roger's is "Look, you know."
    Rafa's is "For sure, no?"

    It's the key to being a champion. That's why the rest of the field sucks.
     
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  8. babbette

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    you know what in Europe it's common to add "no?" or "non?" at the end of your sentence. It's like when English speaking countries add "right?" at the end of their sentences.
     
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  9. rubberduckies

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    I always just assumed he had split personalities or something. One side would say something, and then the other would contradict it. It's also how he plays with his supposedly off hand.
     
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  10. Nadal_Freak

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    That's what I'm trying to say you know. no?
     
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    ;) :twisted:

    I think it's quite endearing actually.
     
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    Im English and do it because i take Spanish at school :/
     
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  13. Leublu tennis

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    Wow. A linguist. Thanks for the lesson.
     
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  14. [QUOTE=seffina;3172065]Roger's is "Look, you know."
    Rafa's is "For sure, no?"
    VERY true:)

    It's the key to being a champion. That's why the rest of the field sucks.[/QUOTE]
     
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    :)

    Well put!
     
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    This made me laugh.
     
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    Yeah, I have to agree that all Latin-based languages add the 'no' at the end of sentences frequently. I know Romanian, and the word 'nu' (meaning 'no') basically means 'you know' in English. People say it without even realizing that some might consider it awkward and grammatically incorrect.

    Roger: "It's a pity..."
     
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  18. saram

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    I consider Rafa to be one of the most intelligent blokes on tour.
     
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    A lot of the Spanish players seem to say 'no?' at the end of their sentences. I think it's just a language thing.
     
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    The French also do it with "n'est-ce pas?": c'est bon, n'est-ce pas? (= it's good, isn't it?)
     
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    I say "no?" at the end of my sentences, too.
     
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  22. NickC

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    Not so, my man. It's "no te piensas?" (might have spelled that one wrong, I've just had a few drinks) and even though I live in Mexico, I hang out with a TON of Spaniards, and that's what they all say.

    And for the OP, I'm no native speaker of Spanish, or am I fluent by any means. I do live in Mexico, and have been for a while (8 months) and I speak it pretty damn well, as my friends tell me. I even have a Castillan lisp when I speak!
     
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  23. saram

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    ^^ESP#1 is from Spain, Nick....just lives in the states....
     
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  24. NickC

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    Oh, really? Never knew that, just figured he was a Nadal bandwagoner. My mistake, I'll edit my earlier post!
     
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  25. Dilettante

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    Don't know about Mexicans, but in Spain the common phrase is "no crees?".

    "No te piensas?" is not used in Spain: that literally means "don't you think about yourself?", but you won't hear it used in normal conversations ("no piensas en ti?" is used instead). "No te piensas?" sounds old and literary. I guess you meant "no te parece?".

    I know in Argentina they say "no es cierto?" a lot.
     
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  26. ferb55

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    First off I like Rafa and think he is a tremendous talent. However, if anyone wants to poke fun at him all they have to do is pick their arse everytime they make a move. I cant believe his handlers or someone doesnt tell him how unflattering it is to watch anyone yank at their underwear before every single shot!!

    Pleae stop Rafa.
     
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  27. saram

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    He is actually not a bandwagoner of Nadal at all. Actually likes Gasquet, Ferrer and Ferrero. He is truly unique for a Spaniard :)
     
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  28. Dilettante

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    I like Ferrero's game more than Nadal's too. Back i the day JFC was a thing of beauty.

    I'm of course talking about aesthetics, I know Nadal is far better player overall.
     
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  29. saram

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    I totally agree.
     
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    Yet aesthetics is what got me to be a fan of Nadal. The personality and beating Fed were bonuses.
     
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  31. saram

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    You totally missed what he meant. Trolling again? Sorry, fish aren't biting tonight, buddy.
     
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    Uh he was talking about Ferrero being more pleasing aesthetically speaking. I totally disagreed. I got bored watching Ferrero matches even though I think he is a good guy. No trolling at all.
     
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  33. 10sfreak

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    Aren't there also a lot of non-English speakers who add, "yes?" at the end of their sentences?
     
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  34. foLster

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    It's kind of like how Canadian's say "Eh?"
     
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    To the OP.... Im glad you cleared that up.... My Spanish teacher says the no thing a lot so I was also wondering what he was talking about.... Even so, I dont think Rafa is dumb.... But it is just something fun to poke at I suppose

    S.S.
     
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  36. crazylevity

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    It'd be funny if someone else, maybe even Federer, starts doing this in the press conferences:


    "I played well today, yes? I hit more winners than unforced errors, yes? I served a good percentage of first serves, yes?"
     
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    Good post, although I disagree with you about Murray being dumb.
     
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    I don't think anyone here thinks Nadal is dumb, but the same can't be said for some of his fans on here...
     
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  39. saram

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    haha!!!!!!!!!
     
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  40. tahiti

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    Rafa is the new age role model so don't pick on his fans if they are somewhat younger and less objective :)

    Thank goodness Rafa has the habits he does. If he didn't he'd have EVEN MORE fans and Fed wouldn't have any!
     
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  41. zagor

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    Isn't that a Spanish thing? They say "no"? at the end of the sentence,it's quite common for them.

    Lol,of course he wouldn't,I mean having such an ugly game and so little success(winning "only" 13 slams) :).

    Joking aside,I do think Nadal is one of those players that attract a wide audience outside tennis circles which is good for the game IMO.
     
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  42. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    Why are you so angry...
     
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  43. blue12

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    Yeah it's exactly like that! That's what I was going to say.

    Spain rules by the way! Spanish people are awesome.
     
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  44. Cyan

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    Because his mother tongue is Spanish.
     
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  45. Dilettante

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    I was thinking the same. I say "no?" all the time but I know it sounds funny when someone speaks English, even myself. Its inevitable to make a little fun of it. Nothing wrong with it IMO.

    But, I have to say that Nadal seems a little dumber in English (by the way I seem a total idiot when I try to speak English myself, way worst than Nadal), but when he speaks Spanish seems a very, very smart guy who knows what to say and what not to say in every moment. He's more witty than non-Spanish people may think.

    He's a very intelligent guy, when you hear him in his mother tongue you realize that. He seems to be smarter than some other Spanish players who speak better English than him.
     
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  46. vive le beau jeu !

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    nah, you can sleep relaxed, it's not because of that. ;)
     
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  47. Dilettante

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    Stop trolling, mate.

    Nadal is quite intelligent no matter his foreign language affairs.
     
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  48. Gorecki

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    im one of those who jokes at that and i most definitely dont think he his "dumb".. in fact i believe he is very inteligent... so i dont see your point!

    btw: i speak 4 languages more or less fluently (able to perform conversations)... being one of them Spanish!

    what about now?
     
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  49. Dilettante

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    Well said. I joke at that, too.
     
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  50. Forehand Forever

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    Exactly, he trained in Spain for TENNIS. He wasn't out there to learn the language.

    Many other pros did the same thing he did as well.
     
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