Why Roger will win the 2013 AO

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  1. smoledman

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    #1 - Nadal is out
    #2 - Fed is not obsessed about the #1 ranking and is mentally free to focus on individual slams
    #3 - he's putting in his best training block since 2009 and we know that's the last time he won the AO
    #4 - he's past worrying about "history" and is free to start ripping his forehand again
     
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  2. veroniquem

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    And Djoko will break a leg??
     
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  3. smoledman

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    Yes beating Djoko in the final will be the big test.
     
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    Nobody is beating Novak Djokovic on the AO surface. Not even god-level Rafa who is grinding and defending his butt off!
     
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    Federer has a chance, but if he plays Djokovic (still a pretty big if on both accounts) in the final it is unlikely, but stranger things have definitely happened.
     
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    I think he'll either lose in the 4th round/quarter finals or make the final and lose in 4 to Djokovic.
     
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  7. veroniquem

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    I wonder what would happen if Fed played Murray in the final. Do you think Murray would be able to recover from another loss to Fed in a slam final?
     
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  8. smoledman

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    We don't know the draw yet. Fed might get Murray in the semis.
     
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  9. 90's Clay

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    Roger can't beat Nole in Australia.. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't indoor fast grass. The last two times they have played, Djoker took a huge **** on him.. And Fed was younger as well

    Hell, Roger can't even beat Nole at Flushing anymore.. Much less Australia where conditions are perfect for Nole's style
     
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  10. smoledman

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    People were saying he couldn't beat Nole in Wimbledon. It happened, never count Federer out!
     
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  11. 90's Clay

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    Nothing happened.. They put a roof on thus making grass faster which was perfect conditions for Roger. (he may not even have beaten Nole without the roof, I don't know)


    Australia and a indoor grass court is night and day. Grass (especially indoors grass, is Nole's worst surface and Roger's best.). Australia is Nole's best surface by far and one of Roger's worst now.
     
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  12. smoledman

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    Oh please as if Nole isn't a great indoor player. I love the excuses!
     
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    He won his 17th slam and equalled Pete's Wimbledon record and did it at age 31, that is hardly nothing.

    You can't ever rule Federer out in a slam, but I do think Djokovic or Murray will probably win the AO now.
     
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  14. 90's Clay

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    He isn't a great grass court player. Much less a great INDOOR grass court player.. Its by far his worst surface and its not even close.. In contrast, Australia is by far his best..

    Fed doesn't have a chance in hell vs. Nole in Australia (as the last two meetings have showed)
     
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    What helps Murray is that he has beaten Federer in a big final (Olympics) and he has also won a major. So maybe the mental block is gone now for Murray in major finals. It would be fun to see them play. Too bad Nadal is out of it.
     
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    So what if it rains in Australia and they have to close the roof. Now that would be very interesting.
     
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  17. 90's Clay

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    I think its safe to rule Fed out vs. Djoker in Australia.. Thats a given. He would have to hope Djoker draws Murray in a semis beforehand. (though I'm not even sure he can beat Murray in Australia now)
     
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    Well, in that case, it will be Djoko in the final and Fed will be sc---ed. I was talking about the possibility Murray falls on the other side and somehow finds a way to get through.
     
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    The winner will be whoever doesn't have to put up with Murray in the semi.
     
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    Oh please, when did Federer play indoor grass before 2012? He had just as much experience as Nole!
     
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    Sorry, losing a GS final is not scrooed, sitting one out is.
     
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    I love how we all assume Fed, Nole & Murray are automatically in the semis and no huge upsets could happen in R16/QF. That's how great these guys are.
     
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    I just meant Fed won't win. When you don't play you neither win nor lose obviously. That's another matter.
     
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    Especially sitting one out when it is not by Nadal's choice! :twisted:
     
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    It's like there are 2 tours - the top 4 and everyone else and it's been this way for 3-4 years now.
     
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  26. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    So were you actually there training with him? Or are you just like every other idiot in this section, making broad assumptions about X players like you're their siblings?

    I mean, people here certainly wouldn't post things without facts right?
     
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  27. bullfan

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    I tend to think that Novak will win it. I think that Murray would beat Fed if he played him in the SF.
     
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  28. monfed

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    Obvious jinx thread is obvious. :lol:
     
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  29. bullfan

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    I think the weather can be a factor, it can get real humid. We all know that a roof is Fed's ace in the hole.
     
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  30. smoledman

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    I still think that Novak is the guy to beat at the AO no doubt about it. But when Nole sees Fed across the net, doubt creeps in.
     
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  31. ShoeShiner

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    GO GO ROGER. This is a chance to win one more slam.
     
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  32. mbm0912

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    this right here
     
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  33. RF20Lennon

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    It will be awesome if he does!
     
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    He doesn't have to break a leg, Murray was close to taking him out last year, and with his confidence higher now he will beat Djoker in the semis, and then Fed will beat Murray in the finals.
     
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    Pathetic attempt at jinx

    I thought Roger won his last AO in 2010
     
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  36. smoledman

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    He won it after his last great pre-AO training block in Dec 2009.
     
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  37. bullfan

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    Not at AO it wouldn't threaten Novak facing Fed. That's laughable at this point.
     
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  38. joeri888

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    Bounce and speed are terrible for rog
     
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  39. Ellipses

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    If Djokovic has a gruelling 5-setter with Murray in the SFs and meets an in-form Roger Federer in the final, I'd like Fed's chances. Otherwise I see it as a routine win for Djokovic.

    Then again, you can't ever say anything for certain, and Fed always has a chance. I'll be bold and say Fed upsets Djokovic in 4.
     
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  40. Feather

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    People talk about just the sets he lost. It wasn't that one sided, their last match.

    Roger lost the first tie break, he could have won it. Second set he was 5-2 leading and still he lost. In third set it was 6-4. It was really close irrespective of whether Roger got a set or not.

    It's funny when you see people talk as if Roger has absolutely no chance.

    I do accept that Novak Djokovic is the favorite to win AO
     
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  41. kalyan4fedever

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    AO and fed does not belong in one sentence, he cant win on this damn slow courts. Djoker gonna do it and is clearly the favorite now that rafa is also out.
     
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  42. zagor

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    This sums it up.

    Fed very likely won't win AO but if he somehow does JV will pull out even that little hair he has left after last year's Wimbledon.
     
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    Mental block was already gone in Wimbledon final last year, unlike his other 3 slam finals Murray fought from the beginning till the end and lost a close match, as much as it's hard for people to swallow Murray didn't fail to show up mentally but got outplayed.
     
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  44. zagor

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    Oh but it did, I'm afraid to say that it wasn't all a bad dream GS :)
     
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    Federer can do it no doubt. There's not much between these guys and a galaxy of unforeseen tiny factors can affect matters. These are sportsmen not cyborgs. But the best of all is I have got my tickets for the semi final on Thursday night the 24th. I'm really hoping to see Fed there doing his stuff.
     
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  46. West Coast Ace

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    Wow! The roof closes and the grass magically transforms. Oh, to live in your little world.

    I guess you forgot that Djokovic defeated Fed in London in Nov? So much for your 'fast indoor grass' yammering.

    I do think Djokovic is still the clear favorite; I'd probably put Murray a hair in front of Roger for 2nd choice (pending draw). Having said that, if Fed brings an aggressive gameplan and serves well and avoids some big guy (Berdych, Tsonga, etc) getting hot and upsetting him in the QF, he could easily bag his 5th.
     
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  47. Homeboy Hotel

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    Federer will lose to Berdych in the night QF/SF match.

    And be as successful as Djokovic and Nadal in defeating Federer in 3/4 slams.
     
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  48. kalyan4fedever

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    Depends on the feddy on a given day, i dont think he will lose to berdych this time although he remains a threat, fed should play cool as he is not a favorite for AO anyway. I think he got that pressure get to him in uso this year and stressed that djoker is favorite even though he won cincinatti
     
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    Congrats. Regardless of who plays that will be an awesome night - unless it's Grosjean - Clement II... :)
     
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  50. forzamilan90

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    Djoko's form dropped off massively from 2011, still he was the best in the world but Fed more than held his own, and it was still close by the end of the year the fight for the #1 ranking. AO courts will favor Djokovic should they meet, but I've always believed in Fed, and trust that he'll find a way or at least make it a battle.
     
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