Why the sudden craze for macs lately?

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  1. flyinghippos101

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    I just dont understand why Macs have been so hyped lately. It just seems to me now that Macs are more or less just shiny toys people have to simply flaunt the fact that they can afford one. I don't see how one can justify $1100 for the entry level macs that have mediocre at best techinical specs while you can get good if not, great laptops at that price. These macs have last generation core 2 duo processors running at 2 ghz, while laptops at that same price have i7s and if you're lucky, have video cards like hd 4670s in them.

    Do people really buy macs because of performace, or because it's just a stutus symbol and pretty to look at?
     
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  2. Jonny S&V

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    Typing from a Windows (a cheapo Wal-mart $300 Windows at that), I attempted to upload a video from this computer. It took 30 min. I uploaded a video that was 4x as long on my father's Mac. Took 20 sec. Same internet connection, and the Mac is about 6-7 years old compared to the Window's 7 months... Yeah...
     
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    I just bought a macbook for 899 and I have used windows my entire life and there is no way I will ever own a pc again. The software is amazing and is so easy to use. It's not like the entry level macs are bad. They are actually pretty top notch computers. They're worth the money for sure. The ease of use is so amazing too. You never have freezing or anything either like you do on windows computers. So unless you buy one use it and comeback and say this still then you just don't understand what it's like to use macs.
     
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    i didn't know steve jobs and steve wozniack were ttw members.
     
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  5. Jonny S&V

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    Ouch... If it helps any, I don't like iPod and have a Zune instead, so yeah...
     
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    I'm pretty sure that anybody who tries a Mac, will never go back to a PC,
    What does this thread have to do with Tennis?
     
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    Doesn't have to do with tennis, its in the "Odds & Ends" sub-section.
     
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  8. 35ft6

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    How often do people see your computer? It's not like expensive shoes or a car.

    Macs are about reliability and performance. Find some articles from tech sites or magazines you trust. Lot of people buy Hondas in LA for the same reasons.
     
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  9. fed_the_savior

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    I'd say because people don't feel intimidated by them. Frankly, if you know what you doing, PCs get more for your money, but there's a place for people that just want easy and friendly. Why people make it either or when it doesn't have to be... but to the above poster, a computer's OS does not have any affect on upload speed. Something else must have been affecting that (perhaps another person on the LAN was torrenting and stopped).
     
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    This is debatable. I read a study once that said Mac's are less expensive over the long run because of less time and money spent on maintenance and trouble shooting. But the study was for Mac's in a school setting, not sure if the results translate to individual ownership.

    All I know is my dad is always having problems with his Windows. A friend's "less expensive" laptop just died on him and it wasn't the first time he's had a Window laptop die. He just bought a Mac by the way. I've owned 4 Macs and I've never had a problem. Seriously.

    I think the inexpensiveness of a Windows laptop comes at a price. I just played with a computer a friend bought over the Holidays, a $300 Acer Netbook, and it's junk. The buttons feel weird, it doesn't scroll properly, and the processor isn't underpowered and videos on Hulu stutter even if you try to buffer it.

    But I do realize why people shop at Walmart and buy Windows computers. Money is an issue, I get it. For me, I'd rather pay extra for the performance, reliability, superior interface and engineering of Mac. To me, I'm paying for piece of mind. But I realize that's not an option for everybody.
     
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    No actually I agree with you mostly, I was speaking of building your own PC or ordering from a reliable custom builder. This is not for everyone.
     
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    My next desktop system will be an iMac for sure.
     
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    I don't think it's a sudden craze. They've always hard a small more core
    following for certain professional groups. The ipod just brought them back
    on the map.

    Macs are in some ways more reliable, but it doesn't mean they're
    indestructible. Laptops in general are more likely to die an early death b/c
    they run hotter and the hard drives are often moved while they are running
    and possibly bumped. My sisters macbook hard drive died twice in the last
    couple years. Also, my friend's macpro system drive died twice! Probably just
    bad luck. Overall, I think mac OS X is superior to Windows
    <take your pick version of OS>.

    hard drives are getting dirt cheap now. Just back up everything that's
    important to you.

    Some people claim that PCs/Windows XP/Vista/etc are better if you are
    familiar with computers b/c it's easier to tinker w/and customize. IMO,
    it's a pretty weak argument. If my heart was an OS on a server that had
    to run 24/7, I'd pick Linux over Mac OS or any flavor of windows.
    Linux is open source, way more robust, you have more control on a lower
    level functionality w/o being super clunky like any variant of windows,
    and it is similar to Unix. Plus it's pretty much FREE!

    I currently use a 8-core macpro. Pretty happy with it so far. Reliable
    and decently fast for rendering large HD videos and projects taking up
    2+ terabytes.

    Getting back on subject, unless serious gaming is your number one priority,
    I'd get a mac over a PC. Something with a firewire 800 port and a usb port.
     
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    Macs are for snobs (i.e. members of the Expensive Players Club here). Mac owners tend to be in the upper middle class, so they don't care about paying more for the limited software and hardware offerings.

    Because the Mac OS is hardware-oriented, hardware vendors have to cater to Apple's more rigid guidelines. Whereas Windows is software-driven, so Microsoft has to constantly cater to both the software and hardware developers that do things like cutting corners in the process. There's been talk that Microsoft developers often implement back doors in their patches for testing purposes, but then have to plug those up when hackers figure them out.

    The Mac OS 10.6 is at best a minor upgrade to Leopard. It's not even a true 64-bit OS as it by default loads in a 32-bit environment and then kicks in the 64-bit aspect when it has to run a 64-bit app. Apple still can't kill off its stubborn base of G4 and G5 users, hence their having to hybrid their OS. Apple has also in the past changed direction in their development of their OS which delayed software developers releasing MAC versions of their software.

    I still think the ipod and iphone are just fads. Popular fads, but nothing that revolutionary. Really good marketing but like every top 40 song, slips as it gets old.

    I have a 10 year old Mac G4 as my file server and pseudo primary domain controller. Works fine. Only glitches I had were a power outage that friend the new hard drive (the original 20GB drive still runs) and that one of the firewire ports broke. I keep telling myself I should replace it, but it still does the job.
     
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  16. Kenny022593

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    Personally, i would take a customized PC over a mac anyday.
     
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    Desktops are a different story. I can fix on desktops myself. Should something go wrong with my desktop, I just trouble shoot, find out the problem and I'm online finding a part to fix. Laptops are a whole different ball of wax. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever by another PC laptop. I've had 4 laptops and had problems out of every single one of them. I'd like to think I take pretty good care of my stuff. But man, those PC laptops are just crap. Oh, and please for the love of all that's holy, stay away from HPs!!!!
     
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    ... duplicate post.
     
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    I have never used a Mac but many people I know really like them.

    Things I've heard that I like:

    -customer service is good. If you have a problem just take it into an Apple store and your problem is fixed, often for free. Pc companies usually have bad customer service and there aren't any dell or hp stores that I can bring my pc to.

    -macs are optimized for music and video. That's what most people use their pcs for. Macs come with decent photo/video software too. You have to buy good photo/video editing software for pcs (something like sony vegas or photoshop, I don't like freeware such as gimp)

    -good reliability


    I have some ?s about Macs.

    Do you need to buy antivirus/firewall software like Norton, Eset?

    Are there any programs that you wish worked on Macs but only work on pcs? For example I like Microsoft OneNote and I'm pretty sure it's pc only.


    Those netbooks really aren't meant for watching Hulu quality videos. The main feature of netbooks is their portability.
     
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  20. onehandbh

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    I think for the average user, all these extra hardware and software offerings
    aren't going to make much of a difference and they're probably better
    off with a mac. It's less likely they'll muck it up and it'll be more
    reliable. Macs also have better firewire 400 & 800 support, which
    are both superior to usb 2.0. Can they get more computing power/$ with a
    PC. Sure. Will it make a difference? I doubt it.

    IMO, macs are more reliable than Windows XP/Vista machines due to the
    roots of where they came from. XP came from Windows NT (sort of).
    OS X is more unix based. Unix > NT. Would you rather have a
    Ford Festiva modded up with a nitrous system to put out 600 horsepower
    or a Honda s2000 with only 237 horsepower?

    Agreed. Plus Apple took a long time to move to a intel chipset.

    The ipod and mp3 players are dead b/c they got killed by cell phones.

    I disagree about the iphone being just a fad. I think it really changed
    up the cell phone world. (btw, I don't own one) There are a couple
    iphone-like phones coming soon from competitors.
     
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    It's amazing how cheap computers have become.

    I used Mac for years since its debut.

    I bought my first Mac (SE) for $1300 and then bought a Mac II Si for $2500.

    Compared to that, a $1100 Mac sounds like a deal to me.

    Having said this, I should mention that I finally got a PC (after owning 4 Macs) and then never looked back.
     
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    I was a windows user and bought a Mac only because of Final Cut Pro. I was immediately smitten with the OS. Wasn't expecting that and I made the purchase with much anxiety.

    If by snob you're implying that people might choose a computer based on worldview and not on performance, I think Windows people might fit that description better. Mac owners seem to love their Macs for performance reasons, whereas many Windows owners seem to hate Macs and their owners for reasons unknown. Because they think they're cool? Or snobs? Or hipsters? Not sure. Subtle difference but I'm pretty sure I'm not imagining this. Mac people generally talk about liking their Mac computer, how easy it is to use, its rock solid reliability both in terms of hardware and software, whereas Windows people spend a lot of time attacking Macs and their owners. Can't recall a time I've read a Mac owner say something about people who buy Windows, calling them a name or attacking their character. They may attack the OS, but not the people who use them. It's interesting.

    Windows has been trying to catch up to Mac OS for a while. Notice, I keep saying Mac, not Apple. The looks and construction of the computers is a huge bonus, don't get me wrong, but a Facebook friend was just talking about his Hackintosh (installing Mac OS on non-Apple computer) and I was very very intrigued.
     
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    What's the point of the portability if the functionality isn't there? I could understand if you said "those netbooks aren't for motion graphics" or "multi-track audio recording" (or predicting nuclear blasts and weather patterns... heheheh) but I don't feel like expecting to be able to watch streaming video is unreasonable to ask of any brand new computer on the market today. I thought those netbooks were meant to be a no frills, low cost computer able to do computers are used for 95% of the time, just web browsing, IM'ing, and emailing. Watching web based videos is a huge part of browsing, and I'm sure other content rich sites will confuse the netbook as well. He spent $300 for that. I think he should have spent another 200 or 300 hundred and just got a notebook computer.

    Sometimes I spend extra and I have the money to spend, but either way, my motto is "I'm not rich enough to be cheap." I would rather spend extra to get something that won't break. People who buy $300 notebooks and $50 GPS systems and what not, I realize they don't have money, but they are buying something that will almost certainly break or be obsolete in a few months or one year. It's only a short term savings. Or they can spend 600 to 900 bucks on a computer that should be able to handle the next 4 or 5 years of progress (if they're not using professional grade applications).
     
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    Macs are a ripoff; and I've been using them since the 6th grade. As a longtime user of PCs as well, I can see why people want to use Mac, but I'm not a fan of their stuff, to be completely honest. I don't game, but their software is just so limited. I use my Mac for screwing around on, as it's plenty fast and that's pretty much it. It doesn't do anything. My laptop, which is a PC, I use for pretty much everything else (music production via Ableton Live 6, Sony ACID Pro, Numark CUE; papers via office 2007; or just gaming when I feel like getting my ass kicked in Starcraft). There's no alternative to a well maintained PC with a good chipset and good cards. Most people are too lazy or dumb to figure out how to run a PC well and how to clean out their system, which boosts performance like no other.

    I think the sudden craze for them is partly due to the poor economy, Macs are overpriced (for the price of a Macbook Pro I can build a PC that is literally twice as powerful), and having a Mac (atleast where I live) is somewhat of a status symbol, if you can afford a Mac you're upper class. And nobody wants to be seen as lower class.

    I could never understand why someone would want to use one if they're not involved with intensive Audio or Video production, however. There's not much of a difference.
     
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    I can only speak for myself.
    As a person that works with pcs/servers all day long (I'm a software developer) the last thing I want to do after a long day of work or during my weekends is wasting time fixing my pc.

    That's why I bought a mac around 2.5 years ago.
    So far I've not regretted it. Sure Macs are not perfect by any means, but I've had very few problems since I switched to a Mac.
    Basically I pretty much stopped doing any kind of administration and a still got no problems.

    For me this decrease in technical problems easily justifys the additional charge for a Mac. Time is money, as they say.
     
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    Simple.....Microsoft.
     
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    i hate macs. and you're right, it's just a matter of branding: having one means you're hip, and "with it" and sophisticated. i think they're lame. i bought a dell lattitude for $1800. it's all black, matte finish, subtle. macs are the opposite. white/silver, and shiny. so uncool and trendy.
     
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  30. Baazigar

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    they're like the k-factor of computers.
     
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    Mac users are the same kind of people that buy VW cars. They think they are so different. When my desktop machine wears out I just call Dell and get another one for no more than 500 bucks. So eat that Mac and jam all your stupid commercials.
     
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    I have a Mac, and I'm generally not a person with a lot of money. And I haven't had to spend any of my money (or time) ever getting my computer fixed.

    More bang for your buck.

    Once you've had Mac, you'll never go back.

    Interesting how many of you assign personality traits to people who use a certain computer. There are some ugly, ugly traits demonstrated right here by PC users.
     
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    To the poster about upload speed: your problem is not due to PC vs Mac. Some other glitch on your PC.

    To me, Macs have always been too expensive to be worth it. Personally, I never liked the GUI (never liked how it was never intuitive to maximize or close a window) and never liked the one button mouse. Since most of my computer work at home is limited to the browser, with the occasional file transfer here and there, and my son is fully comfortable with MS Office for his homework, Macs were never a good value choice for me. It always seems so cool to own one when I drop by a Mac store or Best Buy, but then I ask myself: what is it that I will do better with this, and does it matter, and the answer is no.
     
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    My PC must be about 9 years old or something, can't remember exactly what year I put it together (it's a Pentium 4, 2.4gig, 1.5gb of PC2700 RAM, ASUS P4PE board) No PCI-E ports etc, just an AGP for the graphics card.

    It's never broken (touch wood, or MDF in this case), and if anything with XP goes wrong with it I just fix it. If I get a new computer at some point I'll have to keep this one as my music software works on it, don't see the need to upgrade right now as I don't play computer games or need high performance or whatever.

    I think I'm a fairly typical satisfied PC customer, I know how they work well enough not to be bothered by some of Window's problems.

    Macs on the other hand tend to be bought by people who don't know how to maintain their computers or can't be bothered to try, so they end up paying more for them and have to call for help when they go wrong (and they do from time to time, depending on what you use them for and how much software you install etc.)

    Seems fair enough. I'll stick with PCs, they might be ugly and utilitarian compared to Macs but I like their cheapness and customisability. If you know what you doing when you build one you get much more for less.
     
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    A few months before I bought my mac I thought about switching to a linux distro like Ubuntu. But some things are more complicated to set up under Linux, and I really hate working with the shell, that's why I decided against it.

    In the meantime I don't want to miss the overall feel of OSX and software like Final Cut.
     
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    In general,

    Gaming and business = Windows
    Multimedia = Mac

    Within these classifications each does their target better than the other. It's not that either can't do what the other tries to do but when it comes to code that is well written, thereby utilizing the hardware more efficiently and productively, the differences are notable and appreciable by users.
     
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    I've been thinking about switching to a Mac for some time now, at least for a laptop. I like to build my own computers, which isn't really an option with Macs. It can be done but ends up being too expensive.

    I understand the the benefits of a Mac and might get one for school. The prices are pretty reasonable now when compared to 10 or even 5 years ago.

    Don't pay too much attention to the numbers. Yes the Macs may have lower clock speeds and two cores instead of four, less memory for the money etc, but they perform very well. Very few people will ever truly do anything that takes advantage of all four cores. I play some games use Microsoft office and the internet, which my PC is fine for. If I start getting into video editing and graphics rendering, I'll look into a Mac.

    So perhaps I will buy a Macbook in the coming year, and the new tablet is supposed to come in at under $1000 which would be killer (other companies such as HP have tablets for less but they are a little glitchy and decent Fujitsus cost >$1500). Or perhaps I'll stick with a Windows laptop. Depends on which is the better deal at the time.
     
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    Over a year ago I installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my mother's PC - it took 20 minutes to set up (and I haven't touched it since). Sure, if you depend on Final Cut or other commercial software not available for Linux a Linux distro (Linux is Unix-like, not Unix - please excuse the nitpicking) is not be the right OS for you.
    Personally, I don't want to miss the huge amount of quality FOSS available and the idea behind Free Open Source Software. The feel of the desktops like Gnome, KDE and xfce is very good, too (compiz desktop effects are neat but I don't use them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0B8yNvaSxQ ).

    To each their own.
     
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    It's not fair to compare a cheap pc laptop to a more expensive Macbook, even the cheapest macbook is twice as expensive as the cheap windows netbooks, I hear some compare the Macbook with.

    If you want to do a fair comparison, then at least look at a pc in the same price range as the Macbook.

    Windows 7 is in my view the best OS from Microsoft yet, and It's true 64 bit. You can't say the same about Mac Os X yet. I still think Windows is doing a lot of 'catching up' from the Mac OSx, but to be fair if you know what you do even Vista OS was a nice OS.

    I build my own PC twice a year - I buy an expensive case, good quality Powersupply, 2 iNTEL SSD HARDDRIVES, 4 TB NORMAL INTERNAL WD DRIVES, nice INTEL CPU, nice cpu cooler, an ASUS MOTHERBOARD, 16 GB FAST DDR RAM, NICE GRAPHICS CARD, GOOD COOLING & VENTILATION & a couple of nice DVD/BLUERAY DRIVES and a fan controller and VOILA - I have the fastest, smoothest running system ever.
    Add a nice Logitech Dinovo keyboard, a nice mouse and some HarmomKardon Soundsticks and a 27" TFT SCREEN - and my system is not much more expensive compared to a Mac, but I guarentee you that it runs faster and smoother each and very day.

    With that said, I honestly think the best laptop made is a Macbook Pro 15" - of course modded with an INTEL SSD DRIVE, and this is why I have a MacbookPro as my favorite laptop. It has light in the keyboard, nice simple design, good quality keyboard, nice screen, not full of symbols and stuff I don't need/want in a laptop.

    I can even run windows on it, but have to admit, that Mac OSX is a very nice OS too, just like I think Windows 7 is.

    I never have any bluescreen stuff with the PC computers I build myself, because I make sure to get a proper powerful power supply and nice cooling and ventilation inside the case.

    So both macs and pcs work, when you set them up properly.
    I also have a netbook from Samsung called N20, and for the price I said for it, It's very nice.

    More often than not, It's not the Pc, but the gut who operates it, that causes the mal function.
     
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    I've been sold for a long time on the value of Apple products. It costs more, but then again, better tennis racquets usually cost more than those you find in Wal-Mart.
     
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    Designers/publishers typically use MAC. The programs have been around for awhile and were originally coded for MAC so they work very well stand alone and with other complimentary apps (for example PS). Even iSuite of apps intended for the home user are better integrated and easier to use, especially movie editing, than what you find on Windows. Obviously many of these apps have come a long way but MAC is still more popular among reputable companies and MACs in general are more stable compared to Windows OS, though Windows has and is coming along. You have to understand that stuttering, shut downs, OS errors, etc. aren't nusances that are all that big a deal to home users but they are a pain in arse to users trying to get work done, who have to deal with deadlines etc. To that end, MACS are better in multimedia and used predominately by multimedia professionals if only because they represent far less hassle thus far greater productivity.
     
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    I've worked and had my own computer business since 1990 and have not really had much demand at all for macs. I've played around with a couple but was not really wowed. One thing I didn't like was that I can't browse or connect to my home network. I did a lot of reading on forums to try to find a simple way to just connect and view the rest of my network and it's not possible. So it has very limited networking capabilities.

    One of my clients had to get hers serviced twice within a year (apparently it would not shut down). Another client/friend told me just today that he had to replace his screen. So they are not as invincible as the tv commercial would want you to believe. They are computers like any others.

    Yes it's true that you have few or 0 viruses but that's only because virus-writers have no interest in damaging a small market share. As Macs gain in market share, you will see viruses for them too.

    The price of macs is still very high. This is what killed them in the 80's. It is still something that limits sales today. But they are more affordable today than they used to be.

    I think they are fine for graphic designers and artists and maybe total beginners. They will run smoothly for the simple fact that you have limited software and that, in turn, means fewer software conflicts and incompatibilities. This also might change as software titles grow.

    There is a post here saying that they uploaded a file a lot quicker on a mac than a pc. That makes no sense. The upload speed is determined by your internet connection. If it's the same file (same size) then it will upload at the same speed. Unless they still have a 300K baud dial up modem on the pc.

    To me macs have a toyish look and feel to them. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I think it has its appeal.

    Marketing is a major reason why macs are selling. Their tv ads are very successful and they managed to convince a lot of younger ppl that macs are hip and cool while pc's are for stuffy older business men. It's just clever marketing aimed at gaining a young market share so that they will be clients for life and also buy other Apple gadgets like the iphone/ipod.

    It really becomes a matter of preference. Some people have to be 'different' so they like to say they are a mac user.

    To me they are just computers like all others. More expensive computers and with limited software and networking capabilities. So I see no reason to switch. My pc's are fast and reliable and I can do everything I need and more.
     
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    Cool. My pc has gotta be 9 years old too. 2.6p4 northwood, 1gb ram-pavilion. If i want to game i play 360. As far as surfing the net-burning cd's-dvd's, it still works great. I just vacuum it out and clean it every 6 months and it keeps running.

    I wouldn't buy a mac simply because all kinds of software is for pc only.
     
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  47. edberg505

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    Buy a PC laptop and see how long that last. Then we can talk. LOL.
     
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    The Macintosh OS during the Vista era was simply far superior in terms of performance. It utilized the hardware much more effectively, meaning that a Mac of substantially less overall power could actually outperform a PC if the software was equally developed for both.

    However, with the advent of Windows 7, Mac's have their work cut out for them. The reason why people buy Macintosh is :

    1. Easy to use
    2. Stability
    3. Great support
    4. Overall good performance

    However, you do pay a premium price tag for the Mac. For a non-technical savy person who doesn't need all the extra horsepower, but wants an easy to use computer with extremely good performance with software that is compatible with, then go Mac. That is, if you can afford it. Very similar to a luxary car such as a BMW or Volkswagon.





    Where the PC wins is that it produces both for high end users and low end users, has high compatibility, and has massive power in the Operating System IF you know what you are doing.


    PC users have MANY more programs at their disposal, and ultimately a person who becomes very familiar with computers will have a PC in their household, as it is simply way too powerful in too many ways to count once you know what you are doing.


    Also, hardware for PC users is extremely cheap, while you have to go buy a whole new $1000 machine every few years or so when you go Mac. You can get nearly triple the performance of a Mac overall for a fraction of the price, especially if you know where to look for parts.






    In my opinion, having a Mac for menial tasks such as web surfing, checking email, etc. is extremely nice. Very fast, efficient, and not prone to crashing at all. However, when you want to do things such as graphic design, programming, gaming, or any other high powered tasks, you will have to eventually go PC. Also, if I really wanted to just do surfing, checking email, etc. at an even faster rate, I'd just run Linux.
     
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  49. NamRanger

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    The reason why PC laptops don't last is because they have slim models now however they do not underclock their hardware like most Mac slim line models do. This results in many PC laptop's killing themselves due to the fact that there is not cooling.


    Macintosh had a big complaint with one of the Mac Book models where it was simply way too hot after about 30 minutes of use. After that, they basically took all of their laptop's and underclocked a few things so that it wouldn't run so hot, which results in a slower, but a more durable machine.


    Many people like to point out that Mac laptops last longer when it comes to battery life. This is true. However, what most people don't realize is that the reason why this occurs is because Mac hardware also tends to be underclocked due to their slim frame, otherwise you'd be having alot of people complaining about heat issues. Alot of PC laptops with equal hardware actually have better performance; the only thing bottle necking them in the past was Vista which was a total failure of an operating system.
     
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  50. meltphace 6

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    What is a PC laptop?

    So far I've had no problems with my IBM Thinkpad which I bought used in 2004 (13000 hours uptime).

    "Marketing is everything"
     
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