why would top pros use lead tape?

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  1. vsbabolat

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  2. vsbabolat

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    Yes carbon fiber comes in different weights.

    Here is what a Prestige looks like with out the pallets on.
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    The racquet is hollow but silicone was add to customize the racquet to add weight.
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  3. Rabbit

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    Yes, if you look at the Economic Stimulus Package, one of the detail lines is for the run of rackets for Sampras.
     
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    Perhaps something else to consider is the stiffness. Nate Ferguson said that Pete opted for the St.Vincent frames because he found them stiffer than the other versions. Perhaps Wilson add a little bit extra to Pete's racquets to stiffen them up, even if only at key points. That's not overly hard to achieve and manufacturers have been doing it for players since the days of Hoad.


    I've got about 50 pages worth of message board posts that might give you an idea LOL. And, perhaps, they can see the marketing sense in keeping him happy - this time around.

    When it stays civil I have to check to make sure I'm still on the TW message board.
     
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  5. leonidas1982

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    And to add, it is well known that Sampras is against using paintjobs.
     
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    I don't even know what to say at this point, other than>>> YOU ARE CORRECT. :)


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  7. sureshs

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    I just said what was in the ESPN article. I don't know any better. But remember that the factory uses special techniques like screen painting and robots. The people who do the paintjobs are working on another model, maybe from a different factory, and in a different size, on which the same numerically programmed robot cannot paint. So it is upto an individual to handpaint the racquets. Take the number of hours it takes to apply primer, paint all those layers and details, take it to a high gloss etc and multiply by the labor charge per hour.
     
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  8. vsbabolat

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    It is not up to a indivual to hand paint the graphics. It is up to a individual to put on the decals. Even the the consumer racquets now with the fancy graphics are decals for example on the Wilson Kfactor and HEAD Microgel Racquets that being sold today to the public.



    Please look at these photos of the consumer Wilson racquets.


    Look at the decals that are on the Wilson consumer racquets.
    http://www.******************.com/PhotoAlbums/GSS-Symposium-2008/3/lg/Ron-Rocchi-MP-17.htm
    http://www.******************.com/P...ngers-Symposium/3/lg/Ron-Rocchi-Wilson-24.htm
    Please replace the * with Grand Slam Stringers.
    http://www.itftennis.com/technical/equipment/rackets/manufacture/decal.asp
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    Please dont tell me it costs hundreds of dollars per frame to apply the cometics on the Pro racquets I know better. You can think what ever you want though.
     
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  9. Povl Carstensen

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    A friend of mine here in Copenhagen got a great birthday gift: an hour of tennis with Kenneth Carlsen (10 years ATP top-100 danish player), and one of his rackets. They talked about costumizing and Kenneth said that only very very few players get specially build rackets. You choose your model, and the company or someone else customize it, using amo lead tape or silicone. Kenneth had silicone because he did not like the look of l-tape. Nothing new in this for me, but I thought it might be of interest.
    I hope to play the racket next time we play.
     
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    Yes, it is of interest. Thanks very much.
     
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    Good info! he was also a long time Donnay Pro One (limited) player in the nineties before switching to the Pure Control.
     
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  12. 2ndServe

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    Sampras put a ton of lead tape because he hit through the ball and relatively flat. Extra heavy rackets for flatter ball hitters are great because it's like a hammer through a ball.

    Topspin players value racket head speed more as they like to fan up on the ball so they aren't going to put only a little bit as too much sacrifices how fast they can fan up on the ball.
     
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    But you aren't taking into consideration the different types of surfaces/weather on the tour. The same type court plays different in respect to the city or country you're in. The weight changes with the different conditions.
     
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  14. Mansewerz

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    Many pros use similar frames, so it's easier to make a bunch of TGK231.1's and go from there.
     
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    Brand new injection mold: $1,000,000
    Assembly line retooling: $700,000
    Opportunity cost of shutting down assembly line for two weeks to make changes: $400,000

    1 roll lead tape: $3

    Does that make things a little clearer?
     
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  16. ART ART

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    Interesting this number, what factory it refers?
     
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    absolutely hilarious!!!!
     
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