Why You Dislike The Williams??

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Why do u dislike the williams Sisters

  1. The Screaming

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    11.5%
  2. The constant complaining

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  3. Excuses

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    39.3%
  4. Other, if so please specify

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  1. WayneCM

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    IF you hate the williams sisters please select the reason you do, race will not be acceptable obviously, but lets c why they r disliked by many...

    Personally hate the constant whining and excuses...
     
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  2. Tchocky

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    I don't think anyone really hates Venus & Serena. They're great athletes and tennis players. They raised the level of women's tennis when they started winning majors. Richard is much more annoying than their daughters could ever be.
     
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  3. breakfast_of_champions

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    i don't like there complaining, trash talking, and see them as unattractive, but i don't hate them.
     
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  4. WayneCM

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    apologies for the overly strong use of "Hatred" i was thinkin it was a bit strong after i finished, shall we dumb it down to dislike, r simply what rubs u the wrong way about the williams...
     
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  5. snapple

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    Their ARROGANCE, and the way they disrespect their opponents by never giving any credit to them after a loss. Some of their comments after losses have been downright laughable. The one in which Venus (or was it Serena?) said that if she just played up to 50% of her ability she would have won easily was vintage Williams rhetoric.
     
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  6. N23

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    I didn't like them at first because once they came onto the scene, the believed that they deserved everything they got and more. I felt they were deserved their ranking based on their attitude and cockiness. They weren't humble when winning or gracious when losing. Now that they've been down, more people like them cause they believe they had to earn their way back to the top. This effort to get back to the top makes us appreciate the effort it takes to get there. Agassi was the same, Hingis to an extent early in her career. Both of them fell and when they started winning again... didn't we all feel proud when Capriati won Australia 2001? Or was it just me. Ok enough rambling.
     
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  7. WayneCM

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    oh yeah that was a peach, lets not forget venus's "The sun was in my eyes"... Hmm on both ends???
     
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  8. The Grand Slam

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    Excuse me, but where is 'All of the above and more' on the poll?
     
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  9. latinking

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    Yeah hate is a strong word, but I do not like them. Very desrespectful, arrogant. Father is the worse, but I do admire they are tough.They are not they greatest ever but act like they are. To be honest if they put more effort into tennis and was more humble they probably could have been the GOAT, but talent and atheltisim is not enough.
     
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  10. atatu

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    Guess it sucks for you guys now that Serena is on the way back....she pretty much destroyed Maria this week....that was me sitting next to Richard Williams last nght by the way.
     
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    I dont like serena, mainly because her ridiculous eccentricities. her (his?) deformed body doesnt help either. She looks like Nadal.
    Venus is OK.
     
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  12. Clive Walker

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    In off court matters they have always come accross in a very nice way. -I can't ssay I've seen much offhand on court either TBH.
     
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  13. pirateofthecarribean

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    I love the Williams sisters. I love to see them swipe everyone off the court. That's just my opinion. Cheers!
     
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  14. latinking

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    Yeah right
     
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  15. atatu

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    That was a joke, genius. Who was that guy anyway ?
     
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  16. latinking

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    I think if they wasn't American they would be even more hated.
     
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  17. drakulie

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    I voted for excuses but would have also voted for their constant complaining.
     
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  18. random1

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    Why not? That's the real reason for many people, but they'll come up with other excuses to explain themselves. It'd be interesting to see how many people would fess up in an anonymous poll.

    While Serena won't wind up GOAT unless she really puts in 100% effort for the next 5 years(she's only 25!), I think that at her peak, she is/was better than anyone. Although I prefer Venus' game, stylistically.
     
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  19. latinking

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    I know u was jokeing, don't know who he was but he was going off.
     
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  20. latinking

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    I agree many people probalbly do not like them cause of race. Like you said they are just not honest about it.

    I think Serena will reach no 1 again then lose intrest.
     
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  21. Safina

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    I am enjoying having the "Shara-poseurs" and other gangly tennis women getting taken to school by Serena.

    I do hope that Justine can use slice, mobility, and smarts to beat her, but I think Serena in the draw definitely means you won't end up with someone like Dementieva in a final hitting a 50mph serve.

    I used to dislike Serena because she was one of the first to turn WTA into power hitting unforced error fests, but she has proven she can play that game better than anybody else.
     
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  22. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    No one player owes another player anything; the sport is about one person against another--trying to defeat the other, not some damned social club--the latter criticism the sport has (at times deservedly) suffered from observers. I also find if funny how a few years ago when Henin and Mauresmo made the most weak-minded, UNSPORTSMAN-like compaint about (to paraphrase) the Williams sisters dominance being "bad for the game" but next to no one called them on such a obviously petty slam. the universal answer to that petty slam should have been "then do your damn job and beat them!"

    Further, notice how Hingis' hate-filled, infamous (paraphrasing again) "looks like a man" comment about Mauresmo hardly recieved a much heat--and Hingis was allowed to go on and on with her so-called career (plus nowhere comeback) sans the kind of endless hatred spewed at the sisters, when Hingis' comment was (and remains) part of one of the most controversial forms of intolerance in today's world.

    Tennis still suffers from stomach-turning double-standards where the Williams sisters are concerned and only the blind cannot see the reason why. Not since the height of John McEnroe's career have I witnessed a player or players who either transformed the game or captured mainstream international attention so much, yet are trashed for the most paper-thin, intellectually and certainly morally questionable of reasons.
     
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  23. WillAlwaysLoveYouTennis

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    In absolute agreement. I don't know them personally, so I honestly couldn't say whether I might hate them or something them or not.
     
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  24. WillAlwaysLoveYouTennis

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    In absolute agreement. I don't know them personally, so I honestly couldn't say whether I might hate them or something them or not.


    Valid points, Hingis has uttered many racist and sexist remarks about other players and doesn't get the hating on that the Williams sisters have, though granted in the past people have replied about her lame excuse for her former "retirement".

    Yet I do not agree with the remark that the Williams sisters (notice I don't ever include their crazy father) would be even more hated if they weren't American. I think if they were not American they would have much different responses to incidents. In many countries, calling "racism" just doesn't strike with the same effect, plus your parents or friends would have told you to keep your mouth shut and let it pass more often as they continued to support you.
     
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  25. kingdaddy41788

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    This should be one of the polls where you can select more than one answer...
     
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  26. Baghdatis72

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    I don't dislike the Williams because they are good at what they do and they beat Sharapova everytime (Serena at least) :lol:
     
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  27. Nadal_Freak

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    Stop hating. Serena owns all and will beat Henin tomorrow.
     
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  28. Andres

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    Don't hate them, but don't like them either. The excuses and the complaining, mainly.
     
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  29. random1

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    Are you talking about Dwayne Wade? He was in the Williams' box. He was even interviewed during the broadcast.
     
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  30. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Ditto. Sharapova going down in flames is a wonderful sight.
     
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  31. Chauvalito

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    How do you know thats not true?

    And why does everyone have something against arrogance, its sport, if your that good, why try and package it...so you dont offend people.

    I think Serena is very, very good...and very proud of it.

    Insulting other players is not cool though...
     
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  32. Chauvalito

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    Agree totally.
     
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  33. dunlopfan

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    I love Serena. Venus I don't like because it seems she never really gets excited or emotional (excluding her wins at grand-slams) after or even during her matches. It's almost as if she only does it for her family, not for herself. You can see it in Serena's eyes that she knows there isn't a person she hasn't beaten or could beat. She always is entertaining to watch with her loud c'mons and grunt. I hope she demolishes Henin tommorow.
     
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  34. atatu

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    No, there was a guy who was sitting next to Richard during last night's match who was jumping up and down and going off towards the end. It wasn't Dwayne Wade....
     
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  35. 35ft6

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    I hate their excuses, but there are a lot of things I like about them. They actually seem like sweet girls. And I like how they stick together. Serena is arrogant sometimes, but that's pretty common in tennis. So is Roger, so was Sampras, and so where most of the other top players. Johnny Mac is lucky he's not black. People find his antics funny and he's way worse, but he's white so it's just funny.
     
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  36. dowjones

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    Both always seem to be pissed off and not enjoying a single minute when they're playing. No joy in Mudville :p

    I think they are both burnt out from a childhood of tennis, tennis, tennis and dear old dad but still have the talent if they would work at it. Serena was amazing at the Australian final. She'll get bored again and fail. Make another comeback when she needs some attention. She certainly won't get it from her clothing design talent :confused: :(
     
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    I don't hate them (and it's stupid to always lump them together as if they were joined at the hip--they are two different people), but they still never credit their opponents for playing well. I listened to Serena the other day (can't remember which match), listening to hear if she said anything about the opponent, and once again, it was only about herself. The arrogance is galling. I don't think any of the male players, no matter how arrogant, fail to give props to opponents. I mean Roger always says how great he's playing (when he's not playing Canas, natch), but he always says something gracious about the other guy. I don't think I've ever heard Serena credit someone else when she loses; it's always that she herself has played badly.
     
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    Is there an option for all of the above? I'm afraid to say that I don't like them. I would called a racist then.
     
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  41. Race?

    Race will not be accepted? Then why did you bring it up? The fact that you brought it up means that you were thinking of it.
     
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  42. isuk@tennis

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    jeez...no matter what he says he's gonna get nailed with the race thing....
    don't mention it and someone will say he didn't say you didn't mention not saying race if he mentions it then you say he was thinking of it as a reason....no matter what if you're not black you a racist
     
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  43. Lambsscroll

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    I wanted to vote the top 3 choices.
     
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  44. Fedexeon

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    Hate them for not commiting enough to tennis and they don't play Indian Wells which is a good tournament.
     
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  45. 35ft6

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    As opposed to who? Sharapova, Henin, and Davenport are/were just as serious looking. And why do they have to be happy? You ever play competitive tennis? It gets kind of stressful sometimes. And I'm not even playing for history and hundreds of thousands of dollars like these people are.

    It's nice when people seem to be enjoying it like Guga and Baghdahtis, but I don't hold it against athletes if they're taking it seriously.
     
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  46. FitzRoy

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    Even Guga had plenty of matches where he exhibited poor body language and looked as though he didn't want to be on the court (US Open quarterfinal against Kafelnikov in 2001, anyone?)

    But you're right...as a reason for disliking the Williams', this one is quite the reach. It's basically true for every single player on both tours, only to varying degrees.
     
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  47. atatu

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    This has been a bad week for you guys....you can hate them all you want, but she's cashing the check this week.
     
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  48. 35ft6

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    Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was typing. For a while, he seemed really bitter out there.
     
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  49. tennisjunkiela

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    so true!!!
     
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  50. Breaker

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    Serena actually seems like one of the happier players before a match, a prime example was her match with Sharapova, Serena was smiling and waving to the crowd, seemingly enjoying the moment. Sharapova, however, walked onto the court with a stone face on and kept it throughout the match (with good reason). IMO Serena seems to enjoy herself out there more than the majority of the WTA.
     
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