Will Davydenko win a slam over the next few years?

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Davydenko to win slam over next few years

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  1. no

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  2. yes 1 slam

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  3. he will win 2 slams

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  4. shock, he will win more than 2 slams

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  1. hewittboy

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    Davydenko looks like he is getting closer to a big breatkthrough. Do you think he will win a slam or two in the next few years or not.
     
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  2. hewittboy

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    I predicted 1 slam.
     
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  3. Agassifan

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    Over 2 weeks and 5 setters, probably no. I don't think he'll be able to beat Fed - every single slam over the past 4 and a half freaking years have gone through fed
     
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  4. bluetrain4

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    The only thing is, he's looked this way on and off for the past 4 years. He's a great player, but beating 3 of the 4 top guys in a row over 5 sets, I just don't see happening.

    I'm not saying that he couldn't win a Slam. But, in all honesty I don't think he will. Nothing against him. I just don't see it panning out.
     
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  5. grafselesfan

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    I was kind and guessed 1. I am not sure if he will even do that though.
     
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  6. jimbo333

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    Davey is unstoppable at the moment, as long as the season isn't about to en.......

    oh:(
     
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  7. JeMar

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    I went with one slam too. Federer and Nadal are declining slightly and he can go toe-to-toe with the new crop of talents, so I don't see why not.
     
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  8. OddJack

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    He just doesnt have enough for best of 5. He has said it himself.
     
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  9. tudwell

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    Bandwagon.
     
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  10. JeMar

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    I think he's pretty fit. Also, he's gotten to four slam semis and lost to Federer in three of them. The fourth he lost to steroid-enhanced Mariano Puerta 6-4 in the fifth set.
     
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  11. ChuDat

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    It would be nice to see him win a slam, but I highly doubt it
     
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  12. matchmaker

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    He hasn't even made a GS final IIRC, so he is still very far from winning a slam IMO.

    I think it would have to be the AO and time is running out for him.

    I would love to see him take a big title though.
     
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  13. OddJack

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    ^^^^ yeah, if he beats Murray in a slam final would be nice, or Nadal, or del potro or djoker. Anyone but TMF
     
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  14. jamesblakefan#1

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    Nope. The way he plays cannot hold up over 7 best of 5 sets matches. He does have an injury history, even in his run here he's been seen limping around on court at times. His best opportunities have come and gone, and his GS performances this season in particular bear that fact out.
     
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  15. tacou

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    I disagree with him not holding up. Davy is in the best of shape always (injuries aside) and has made it to a few semis where he's been let down mentally, not physically.

    However, he made it this far last year. If he doesn't win Australia or French I doubt he'll win one, but I think he's got a great shot at the finals this year.
     
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  16. jamesblakefan#1

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    Apparently he was injured at all 4 slams this year. He missed the AO due to injury. He aparrently was still hurt when Sod smoked him at the French. Well, he never does well at Wimbledon, so injury mustn't have been a factor there. And he had to retire from the USO vs Soderling w/ injury.

    And IMO, people are overstating how quote-unquote 'done' Rafa and Roger are. These are still two guys who have won 17 of the past 20 slams going back to 2005, and one of them has been in 18 of the past 20 slam finals. So chances are he'll have to go through one of those two if he wants to win a slam. Contrary to what some on here seem to believe, I don't think Nadal is done just yet, and even though Davy seems to own Rafa on HC, I'd still favor Nadal if the two were to meet at the AO.

    Couple the injury concerns with the mental concerns, and the fact the competition isn't getting any easier - I'd say the top 5 are all solid and in place as slam contenders for the next 1-2 years - and it's hard for me to see Davydenko picking one up. It's much more likely that this is his final peak, and he may start to level off to that 10-15 range next year.
     
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  17. kishnabe

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    Anything Can happen in tennis but my guess is the best result he will get is a slam final in the US open or French open!
     
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    I want him to, but I doubt it.
     
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  19. MuseFan

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    Davy's best chance was in 2007 US Open I believe, and he blew it. So no GS win for him. He will continue to win ATP 250/500 and the occasional Masters.
     
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  20. egn

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    Isn't Davy pushing 30. He had his breakthroughs and failed its called 2005 French..2006 Aussie..2007 US Open..2009 French...etc. Davy is a great player, I love him a lot but to predict a coming breakthrough is highly unlike.y However I am voting one and have hope. He has been getting better as of late playing less tournaments as well, and man does he hit with some nice pace.
     
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  21. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    He is pushing 29, so is Federer.
     
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  22. jamesblakefan#1

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    By this time people who've been around these boards long enough should know the drill - a person makes a run when no one expected them to, all of a sudden, they're the big favorite to win slams and be a legend killer. Last week it was Djokovic, this week it's Davydenko it appears.

    But at least people are making these threads about proven players, instead of the laughable 'Gulbis to win a slam in 2009' threads we were seeming besieged with this time last year. :lol:

    Making progress with the hype machine.
     
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  23. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Last year it was Djokovic, Murray, and Simon. At the end of 2006 it was Nalbandian.. :lol:
     
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  24. Rippy

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    Nope. Beating Federer doesn't mean he'll win a slam.
     
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    I hope he does, the iron man certainly deserves it!

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  26. Tsonga#1fan

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    There was a time when beating Federer did mean winning a slam. The only way you would beat him was if you were the last one to get a chance, in the final. That was a couple of years ago. Now, Federer could be easily taken out and the guy who did it could just as easily loose in the nest round, and we aren't even at the finals yet.
     
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  27. zagor

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    I'll vote yes but I'm not sure I really believe.There's a chance sure but it's not a big one by any means.Would really love to see it happen though.
     
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  28. Anaconda

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    No, the French Open this year was his best chance - with Nadal out of the way it seemed like the perfect half to be in, and he still found a way to get smashed against Soderling.
     
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    okay there is still a difference. Fed is coming down from winning 3 slams a year..Davy has yet to be in a small final. It is hard to believe that at this point in his career now with the youngs guys like Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray and Nadal around playing their best that Davy is going to be able to squeak out a slam. It is very well possible, just not seeming likely.
     
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    If Davydenko can find a way to serve like he did at the WTF and like Miami a few years ago, then he can definitely win anything.
     
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  31. jamesblakefan#1

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    I know the bandwagon is in full motion now...but I still say NO.
     
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  32. malakas

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    Hopefully yes...but I really don't think so.

    HOWEVER Soderling made it to a GS final so who knows?This could be the beginning of a Kolya domination era :mrgreen:
     
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  33. Anaconda

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    Exactly how i feel. Davydeko can't produce this tennis is slams - which has been proven and lets not forget that Davydenko will be playing the top guys at their fittest level.
     
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    haha what bandwagon??Sadly even with such a win,there is no bandwagon.:(
     
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  35. 5th Element

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    he has a slam in him if he stays injury free and if the draw is kind to him (i.e. dodge Federer completely).
     
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  36. Anaconda

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    The problem with Davydenko is that he only plays one type of game - and if he is missing or getting outplayed then there is nothing he can do about it.
     
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  37. downs_chris

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    I think he has a chance at maybe one...
     
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  38. Anaconda

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    There are more players than Federer who own him on H2H. Guys like Roddick who have baseline games inferior to Davydenko can still own him.
     
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  39. jackson vile

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    He is much like Nalbandian, except Davy works a hell of a lot harder, and happens to crumble often.
     
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  40. grafselesfan

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    Roddick and Davydenko have only played 2 matches since Spring 2005 when Davdyenko began becoming a top player. They each have won 1, and Davdyenko's win was more decisive. If they played anytime soon on anything but grass Davydenko would more likely win.
     
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  41. Anaconda

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    Except that Nalbandian has the best BH on tour and is actually a more rounded player than Davydenko. The only think that Davydenko has over Nalbandian is fitness.
     
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  42. jackson vile

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    No, it takes more than fitness to beat Roger and Nadal As for more rounded, no think again.
     
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  43. Anaconda

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    Nalbandian has a better record over Federer than Davydenko. And leads against Nadal. Thanks.
     
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  44. grafselesfan

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    Nalbandian is way overrated on this forum. He is very talented but not the demi-god with many slam winning potential he is made out to be. Davydenko achievement wise is now arguably ahead of him actually. 1 more Masters title, one more year end event final, more consistency ranked in the top 5, many more career titles. Nalbandian's edge is the semis of all the slams, and the Wimbledon final. However Nalbandian's Wimbledon final is one of the biggest flukes in the last 3 decades probably, and Wimbledon 02 is the worst mens Wimbledon in tennis history easily.

    As for comparing their games Davydenko has the better forehand clearly. I agree Nalbandian has the better backhand. Return of serve is a toss up. Nalbandian used to have the better serve but Davydenko's serve has improved alot and now I think he has the better serve. Volleys, lol what volleys for either. Movement wise I think Davydenko has the edge. Fitness yes a huge edge for Davydenko there. And mentally both have their ups and downs. Nalbandian is alot mentally tougher vs Federer, I will give him that. Also that accessment is when Nalbandian is at his best, which he clearly wont be ever again, so his game would compare even less favorably then that now.

    Come to think of it Nalbandian's only real edge is the backhand, and Davydenko also has an excellent backhand.
     
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  45. Anaconda

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    Maybe he is overrated, but i'm not overrating him, he does have the best backhand in the game. I think Nalbandian has a better return also. Neither player will win a slam anyway - they both drop there levels at critical points in slams.
     
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  46. stanfordtennis alum

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    he's getting old but he has a slim chance maybe in 2010 or 2011
     
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  47. grafselesfan

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    I am not sure who has the best backhand in the game. You could argue Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, and even Nadal (when in form) as well.
     
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  48. robin7

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    Yes if he keeps playing like what he did @ WTF 2009.
     
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    I guess there is a new bandwagon in town. It's funny what winning a tournament will do for you.
     
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  50. kolo

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    if all the top players play injured/reties at USO he can maybe.
    on fire federer, djokovic can still take him.
     
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