Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by King of Aces, May 20, 2009.
Im sorry but he just plays the wrong style of tennis to win at the FO.
It´s not that he plays the wrong style, he just had the bad luck to play Nadal all the times he reached the finals.
If he played the wrong style of tennis, he wouldn't have reached the finals 3 times in a row. If Nadal wasn't at his best all those years, or if Fed played against any other player at one of these years, I'm sure he would have completed the Grand Slam already.
I'm hoping to see him win RG once. So I'll consider myself lucky enough to see one great player completing the Slam Tour.
It is the wrong style if it doesn't produce a win. So what if he beats other players? They have mentally surrendered to Federer before they step on court. Federer needs to handle high balls on his backhand with confidence and keep long rallies going without spraying the ball off either wing. It requires a different mentality. Drop shot, his new weapon, isn't going to help him because a fresh Nadal will eat those up. He will be there and waiting even before Fed's drop shot has crossed the net.
If playing style is key, all past champions would have the same style; but they don't. Nadal, Agassi, Kuerten, Courier, Bruguera all have contrasting styles.
Federer does have the game to win it, however he does need to make some subtle tactical changes and also portray some confidence and aggression on court. He is certainly capable of winning.
I say no. Nadal just has his number at RG. It's a problem of match up and play style, not 'who's better'.
I think this year he has maybe his best chance yet. He beat Rafa at Hamburg before but this time no one was giving him a chance and he pulled of a convincing straight set victory.
Exactly. Kuerten, for example, was a baseline (strong)hitter with an average mobility and he used everytime he could his great drop shots( the new thing that Fedhaters are criticzing now ).
It depends on where Nadal is when it's employed. Besides, I don't think that hitting the ball constantly to Fed's backhand is going to work this year...
Nope. Too late. Had his chances, and didn't take them. The window is closed for him now.
Will they ever play the FO in the altitude?
The way he played against Nadal at Madrid (I know, faster courts, tired Nadal etc etc) he can win the FO. Serving well, returning aggressively, coming to net, drop shotting to keep Nadal closer to the baseline, and keeping his unforced errors low. He will win if he does that, and I think he will.
The next FO winner after Nadal will be Nole. Not this year though.
I dont think so
LoL @ Djoker winning French and not Federer. I seriously think Federer will win the French this year...to set him up to win the WImbledon and claim the record there by getting his tittle back .
You can't put Fed and "winning FO" in the same sentence.
Well, looks like you just did.
Federer is winning FO 2009.
Well, Nadal and Bruguera are all big topspinners.
Agassi and Courier are power baseliners with consistant and flat strokes.
Kuerten was great on both wings with a good serve.
I will have to follow the OP in this: Federer just does not have the right playing style for clay.
Sure he won Hamburg 2 years ago and now Madrid, but even in those matches you see he rushes points and that as it is a best of three, he gets away with it.
I don't think he can manage a best of five on clay against Nadal.
Can you name another French open champion with a similar style to Federer? Maybe Nastase???? I dunno
If Federer isn't exhausted in the final like he was last year, he should definitely take it.
He has every chance of winning it, if he stays mentally strong!!!
(and if Nadal is injured one year)
Will the OP ever not be a troll? no
or mono, or the sun or the wind, or his back, or blisters, or just not playing well.....etc etc etc
You can make this statement about every single player except Nadal. The only reason Fed hasn't won is because of Nadal. This is the exact same reason why nobody else has won it either (except Fed might've beaten everyone else as well had Nadal not been around). Its more about Nadal than it is about Fed.
this is his last year to win it.
One can still dream.
Federer is winning this French Open.
If he continues getting cakewalks there by avoiding Djoker or maybe a Simon(someone of that sorts) BEFORE he gets to the finals where he has to deal with Nadal, there is always a chance for Fed IMO.
Though his window may be closed. Winning Madrid against a Fatigued nadal on a faster court is one thing, winning the French against a rested Nadal on the slower courts of RG is .
But if all he has to deal with en route to the finals are players like Roddick or Blake, then yes Fed still has a chance.
What a nutjob. He has Del Potro/Murray in his side. You know whats F'n funny? During the Australian Open Nadal fans were saying Fed has the easier draw. Well who did he have in his draw? Djokovic. Nadal had Murray. Now Federer has Murray on his side yet he is the one with the easier draw :-?.
Last US Open Federer had Djoker on his side and Nadal fans said he has the easier draw. Now Nadal has Djoker on his side and Nadal fans say Federer has the easier draw :-?.
I suppose it really depends on whether or not Nadal is tired or not.:twisted:
if nadal is still around federer will never win FO
Sampras fans are just scared that fed will over take sampra's record so they like nadal even though he plays a completely different game than pete. but when nadal gets close to breaking petes record you will be rooting for the nadals rival
Del Potro and Murray on his side of the draw? My point exactly.. Its a JOKE at least on clay. Neither Murray or Del Potro are what I would call clay court phenomenons. Im sorry buts that just the way it is. The two best clay court players are on the opposite side of the draw and Fed never has to go through both of them.
Yes Murray is a tough tough hardcourt player but he sucks on clay so he isnt a tough draw any means at RG. Del Potro is pretty good but he plays right into Fed's hands everytime they play. Hes no compeition for Fed.
We were talking about clay courts right? Not other surfaces.
As Federe said, he does NOT have clay problem and he just has Nadal problem on clay.
Just like Ivanesvic who did not have grass problem but Sampras problem.
If not Sampras, Ivanesvic could have won 3-4 Wimbledon's.
If not Nadal, Federer could have won 3-4 French Open.
Just like Ivanesvic, Federer will win French one day.... He grew up on clay and he is a slam worth clay courter. He just has to keep trying....
Because in USO 2008, Djoko was worn out from his medal hunting in the Olympics, was a shadow of himself all tournament while Murray was completely fresh and also a tad better on fast hard courts than Djoko.
On clay, it's the opposite : Djoko is excellent and Murray not so much. That is why Fed didn't make the final in Rome, because Djoko was on his side of the draw.
No it's too late.
Noah won it serve and volleying, dummy.
That sets the other end of the spectrum, thereby everyone that fits between baseline grinding and serve and volleying has an acceptable style for winning Roland Garros.
I don't understand Nadal fans sometimes. In Madrid he had to play what, 3 matches before the final, and he was exhausted/fatigued. At RG he has to play 6 matches before the final, what makes you think he won't be? Who is to say that his SF and/or QF opponents will not stretch him?
That said, it could happen to Federer as well. Someone taking him to 5 sets at a hardcourt slam is okay; he bagels someone else to make up for it (see Berdych, then Del Potro AO this year). But if it happens on clay, I don't see him recovering as well as on other surfaces.
Federer had free walkovers in the French, Wimbledon, Australia and US Open.
He managed to complain about the Nadal family's clapping, the challenge system, fake illness condition, crap injury and darkness.
Del Potro is a poor tactician and unathletic.
So then other than Nadal, EVERYBODY on the ATP Tour plays the wrong style, right? :-?
Why? According to you, Federer plays the wrong style, so they should know they'll kick the butt of some loser playing the wrong style even before they step out on the court, right?
You mean waiting for those drop shots from 15 feet behind the baseline?
Someone this ugly cannot possibly win a French Open.
You're right. You have to be much uglier than that to win the French Open.
LOL, drakulie. You have the best answers to the worst posts!
May the Force be with you
For the most part yes. There are very few grinders left on the tour.
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