will federer play gstaad?

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  1. hermano05

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    federer always played at gstaad. but last year he didnt. maybe because of an injury and he also didnt play a masters series (toronto). do you think that federer will play at gstaad this year?
     
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  2. Shabazza

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    don't think so, it isn't in his schedule and it would be too tough a shedule anyway 3 weeks in a row I think - I just hope he can play Basel this year and don't have an injury at the time for a chnge!
     
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  4. W.P. Mayhew

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    One epic bump.

     
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  5. Nitish

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    Look at post #3
     
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    Very surprising, tbh. Hard to see him playing both Toronto and Cincy now (assuming he goes far in Switzerland).
     
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  7. Nitish

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    He will probably skip toronto .Cinci is his best chance to win another masters 1000.
     
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    Seems like Fed is a bit desperate for matches? Going back to clay again? He hasn't played there since he won it in 2004. :shock:

    Roger Federer
    I'm really looking forward to playing in front of my home fans in Gstaad this summer. I have got a lot of great memories of the tournament in the mountains of Switzerland.
     
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  9. batz

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    Roger is now exempt from ms events - he can play them if he wants to but they aren't mandatory for him
     
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  10. underground

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    I think he will still play it though, considering he has no points to defend there and Gstaad is two weeks before Montreal. He just wants some match play regardless of surface I guess.
     
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  11. W.P. Mayhew

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    I was referring to your bump :)

    Should've quoted it, though.
     
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  12. Ico

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    It's nice of him to play for his Swiss fans and I'm sure the attendance check doesn't hurt either. Barring an injury on clay, I can't see this negatively impacting the rest of his season.
     
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  13. Nitish

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    Oh! sorry :oops:
     
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    I think he needs a confidence boost.

    I missed the posting dates in this thread so I was thinking "What? He hasn't played Gstaad in years!"

    Then I was like "...oh" :lol:
     
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  15. Nitish

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    Maybe for another cow :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    This picture make it look like they're a couple fighting.
     
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    Oh god yes.
     
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    Standard picture of a clay tournament ceremony.
    Federer in pants and Nadal holding the trophees.
     
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  19. zam88

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    odd decision.. a clay tournament in hard court season?

    potentially missing a masters tournament?


    is this where we're going here... playing random tournies just for match play/appearance fees/fun?

    why is he going to rob some random dude's payday who needs the dough to keep going
     
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  20. Nitish

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    If he makes it to the finals he will still have a week before rogers cup so not sure he will skip it.I think he is playing it for some match play and points.Still a odd decision to play on clay before the summer HC season.
     
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    Hardcourt season hasn't begun and both hardcourt masters are still on the updated schedule. He's probably playing the tournament because he's already in Switzerland and wants more match practice (and a potential free cow with some money). Any extra points will also make up for the olympic points.

    Rafa might also play a clay tournament before the hardcourt season, going by what he said after Wimbledon.
     
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  22. nikdom

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    I have an eerie feeling that Roger is going to call it quits this year.

    Basically whatever back problem he has isn't going away and he doesn't see himself grinding it out losing at his fav slams if he can't get better physically.

    Saying that he's doing it for his Swiss fans and mentioning that Gstaad was the first tournament to give him a wild card seems like a nostalgia thing more than anything else.
     
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    while it wouldn't surprise me if he bold face lied to the media about playing until 2016 and then quit (after all telling sponsors he was quitting would cost him tens of millions), I think we should wait until after the U.S. Open to begin this speculation.

    if he doesn't have a good cincinatti and/or US open (semi-finals or better).. then i'd say the risk is there for retirement.


    I think there's a better chance that after teh USO he takes a larger "rafa style" break to get his back right and then gives it a strong go in '14
     
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  24. nikdom

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    He has always prefaced his statement about wanting to play many more years with "if my body allows it".

    My feeling is that he's been managing the back issue for some time now. He was able to do mind over body as long as he had the motivation (7th Wimby, no. of weeks at 1 record), but you'll see that he had an immediate slump after the 2012 Wimbledon which he never recovered from.

    His biggest motivation would have been another Wimbledon, and with that chance gone this year, he really has to weigh if he wants to play another year and maintain good ranking to have a shot at Wimby 2014.

    The fact that he's still hanging out in Wimbledon in week 2 (see twitter for sightings of Fed in Wimbledon village), means that he's not taken this loss well and may be taking his time to tell Wimbledon his final goodbye as a player.
     
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    He wont at least for another year, he has some amazing contracts so needs to play to keep them at high pay, no matter what happens this year he is the highest earning tennis player in the world and he is just below tiger woods in the highest earning sports person so he would not want to let that go that soon,also this is just the two years he had from 2010-2012 and he came back to win Wimbledon so he wont quit so soon, he will quit if 2014 is worse than this year and he exits all GS before r3.
     
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    I saw some pics too.Hope this isnt the last time we see fed at wimby.I really think he should give Wimbledon atleast one more shot.
     
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    Agassi is still making money from sponsors like Longines and Nike.

    Brand Federer won't disappear if he stops playing. His reputation, image and name sell well because he has a loyal following.

    If anything, playing and losing at the most prestigious events will damage that reputation and bring negative focus to the brands that he promotes rather than enhance them.

    Right now, his legacy can sell better than current results.
     
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    I think he's just desperate for ATP points given how many of them he lost in 2013.
     
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    It's hard as it is with seeding as you saw last week. If Roger doesn't stay in the Top 4 going into Wimby next year, you can bet he'll have a much tougher draw than even this year.

    He knows that as good as he is, time and lower ranking will work against him.

    If he enters, I'm sure he'll want to be a contender and not do it just to get to Qtrs or Semis like Hewitt is happy to do.
     
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    It's true, his sponsors Nike and Wilson have nobody to fall back on. Since Del Potro left Nike, they will basically have Rafa and he doesn't appeal to the rich affluent type
     
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  31. nikdom

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    That doesn't make sense. If it is for ranking points alone, Gstaad is a 250 level event.

    Even playing Citi Open D.C would be double prize money and points (ATP 500)... plus it's in the states and on hard courts.
     
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    Haha that's pretty funny!

    Surprised he's playing this. Although on the other hand, he's out early at Wimbledon so he might as well play something in between this and Montreal.
    I don't think he will skip a M1000, his schedule isn't THAT busy. It's good that he plays this actually. If he wins this, and doesn't suck too much at the upcoming 2 M1000s, he won't lose any of the 1000 pts he won at Cincy last year, but will actually gain points.
     
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    I suppose Federer is automatic favorite for Gstaad.
     
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    He's trying to hone his clay court game for next Roland Garros
     
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    Yeah, I had the same feeling as soon as I've heard this announcement.

    I always felt that Fed will continue playing as long as he feels he's a contender to win slams, sadly the moment when he isn't anymore might have finally arrived.

    You could also be right about him having some physical issues (it's hard to tell with Fed as he rarely talks about them), his groundstrokes lost their juice and his movement has been mostly terrible this year, he also seems to wear that undershirt more often.
     
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    Odd decision.

    That would be terrible. Don't got there, man...
     
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    I hope not, but then again I'd rather see a happy and motivated Roger contending rather than going through the motions.

    He looks oddly subdued and resigned lately. Just today he was out visiting some local tennis club near Wimbledon apparently, trying to encourage youngsters there.

    That seems a little odd so close after his earliest loss at a slam in years. Perhaps he gets over losses soon, but this just doesn't feel right.
     
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    This is awesome news. More Fed matches for us to watch!
     
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  39. wangs78

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    I think he's realizing that without enough match play he's only going to accelerate his decline. It's one thing to play less and stay healthy but not playing enough could be just as bad. This shows that he still believes he can get back into Big 4 form.
     
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    It's a weird decision. I agree he should play some smaller tournaments to get confidence, but I don't get why he chose a clay tournament to prepare for the hardcourt season. I hope he's not starting his farewell tour.
     
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    Memories, home fans.......

    The "R" word might be getting close.
     
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  42. mistik

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    The party is over for him.He should retire. Nobody takes him all that seriously anyway. We arent in Hewitt,Roddick era ( weakest era ever ) anymore.
     
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    I think he just wants to feel the buzz of winning something in front of a home crowd. It probably won't take him that long to adapt to hard courts again afterwards.
     
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    Yeah, Stakhovsky is so much better than those guys, not to mention how much current Nadal is better on grass than his 2006 and 2007 versions (heck, 2005 baby Rafa is better, he made it to 2d round), don't make me laugh.

    It's funny how Fed fans are supposedly so insecure yet there can't be a thread about Fed without some Nadal or Sampras worshipper bringing up "weak era", just be happy Fed's a shadow of his former self.

    P.S. Hewitt didn't so weak to me when he double breadsticked your hero in front of his home crowd, or when he made mincemeat out of 90s multiple slam winners like Rafter and Kafelnikov.
     
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  45. mistik

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    Sampras not my hero but yes ı think he is better fast court player than Fed. He played in a more difficult era where fast court tennis was really fast court tennis with tons of rivals.
     
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    Yeah, whatever dude, I saw your superior fast court player get schooled by a perceived weak era clown in a grand slam final in front of his home crowd.

    Oh and before your amazing retort on how your hero was past his best, so is Fed this year, even more so, what goes for one player goes for the other as well.
     
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    As for Fed playing, if you get knocked out of a slam early, basically missing a slam, why not? Nadal should pick up a tournament as well.
     
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  48. mistik

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    I dont care Fed defeat in this year all that seriously. I never think he will win this year anyway. My judgement on him is not because what happened this year.
     
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  49. NEW_BORN

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    A very good decision to play on clay.
    Can get into a few extended rallies to work on his ground game.
     
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  50. MarcusInKensington

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    Gstaad gave him his first wildcard in 1998... seems like the perfect place to play his last tournament too...
     
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