Will Federer reach 300 weeks as No. 1

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  1. roysid

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    Federer is currently at 286 weeks at No. 1 (tied with Sampras).
    Next week he will become all time leader.

    Can he stay No.1 for another 14 weeks and reach 300 weeks as No.1. That would be a great achievement (close to 6 years as No.1 )

    What do you think.
     
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  2. emilyhex

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    Yes. I think the greatest of all time will become the greater-est of all time :)
     
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  3. Sri

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    Depends on USO / Olympics and if he drops the ranking in between then the WTF'12.
     
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  4. big ted

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    it would have been interesting if djokovic had entered newport this week
     
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  5. glazkovss

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    If he outperforms Nole at Olympics than he is almost a certain lock at no.1 until Paris Masters. By that time he should reach a total of 300 weeks. That is if Nadal doesn't win both NA hc masters and US open (very unlikely).
    The second half of the year promises to be very interesting with that 3-way battle for no.1 ranking.
     
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  6. MG1

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    I think he has zero pointer in his ranking points so he could not earn points by playing newport.
     
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  7. roysid

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    Stars rarely change their holiday schedule for rankings. If he had played Newport it would been non stop for him..then olympics->Canada->Cincy. Thus by US Open he would be exhausted without any rest.

    Plus all the -ve publicity he'd get. Its not like for Djokovic another few weeks as No. 1 he would die for.
     
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  8. smoledman

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    He's Roper Federer, anything is possible.
     
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  9. tudwell

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    Federer will get to 289 regardless of anything else. If he keeps the No. 1 ranking at the Olympics (by outperforming Djokovic by at least 90 points), he should keep it at the very least until the U.S. Open, since he has so little to defend before it and Djokovic so much. If he loses it at the U.S. Open, he'll be at 294, but I imagine he'll at least defend his semifinal if not improve, so that's unlikely. After that, it gets more complicated. Shanghai isn't until mid-October, and neither Federer nor Djokovic played it last year, so I imagine they both will this year in an effort to get the year-end ranking. But there are tournaments in September before that that I don't think either Djokovic or Federer have played regularly. But with the number one ranking up in the air, they might. If they both take off until Shanghai (and Federer doesn't drop the No. 1 ranking before or during the U.S. Open), Federer will reach exactly 300 by my count (unless of course he outperforms Djokovic there, in which case he will continue to add weeks to his tally). If he holds it until the end of the year, he should reach 311 weeks.

    And of course, Nadal is also in the mix, and his performance in the summer hard court swing could shake things up. And Federer could also lose the ranking at 289 to Djokovic if he falls short at the Olympics, but then he could also pick it back up if Djokovic doesn't defend Canada, Cincy, and the U.S. Open.
     
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  11. merlinpinpin

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    He took the #1 spot back early enough in the year that he now has a good shot at year-end #1 despite the 3,000 points he won last year at the very end of the season, so it's pretty clear he'll be going for #6, and should break the 300-week limit along the way. In fact, he would have to crumble totally (be injured, etc.) not to, considering his main rivals will *lose* more points than he will during the summer. That said, nothing is ever 100% sure.

    Year-end is much more of a toss-up, though. Depends on two things, basically:
    - How long can he ride the Wimbledon wave?
    - How much will Djokovic be affected by his Wimbledon and #1 losses?

    I think Federer needs about a 2,000-pt lead after the US Open if he is to finish the year at #1. And he has a good chance of getting it (more answers at the Olympics, though).
     
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  12. roysid

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    Good Point. But Fed need not outperform Djoker by 90 points. Rather its Djoker who needs to outperform Roger by 90 points to get No. 1 back.

    Currently Roger is just 75 points ahead of Djoker.

    So Olympics is the big risk. Because if Roger keeps his No.1 after Olympics. Djoker would be it nearly impossible to reclaim his points last year ( Montreal-win, Cincy - final, USO - Win)..forget about gaining.

    Unless Nadal wins 2 of the 3 (Canada, Cincy, USO) Roger's No. 1 ranking should be safe
     
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  13. sbengte

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    I would have said no but it was nothing short of a miracle that the man regained no.1 with prime Nadal and Djoker around. Won't be surprised if he manages to hold the no.1 ranking for another 4 months.
     
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  14. glazkovss

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    I doubt top 3 would change their schedule because of ranking possibilities. They are much more oriented on winning tournaments nowadays than competing for ranking points. As some of them said: 'as long as I have good results the ranking will take care of itself'
     
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  15. Absolutely. And I think he will. He can gain ****LOADS of points until the end of September, Djokovic has so many points to defend until September, and we all know Nadal`s season stops after Us Open.
     
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  16. dudeski

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    He might lose the #1 spot if Novak does better than him at the Olimpics but then regain it back after Novak loses his Toronto and/or Cincy points. Then if Federer does better than Novak at USO Federer might be number 1 till next year.
     
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  17. MasturB

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    Kind of funny and sad that Federer has broken so many of Sampras' records that Sampras' said the other day before Wimby final "I'm still confident about the 6 year end #1's"... it's like man he's gone through all of your records so Pete doesn't have much left to hold on to, to say "I still got this that's impressive that he has yet to break".

    6 years year end #1 is impressive, but look at what Federer's already wiped off the record books

    286
    14
    7 Wimby (Tied)

    Those three records people will probably remember more than the 6 year end #1, although if Fed ties that what really does Sampras really have left to hold on to?
     
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  18. BigServer1

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    6 consecutive year end #1s is what Pete was talking about. That record won't be broken by anyone in the top 4 currently.

    Regarding the OP: He could...Would be cool if he did, but I can also see him laying an egg this summer. We'll see how he does at Oly/Cincy/USO.
     
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    I think the Olympics will replace Doha in the "Best of Other Countable Tournaments" section, meaning Federer will drop 90 points at the end of the Olympics. If Federer wins, it's a moot point, but if he doesn't, there are ways Djokovic can overtake him.

    So I guess the more accurate number would be 90-75=15. He needs to outperform Djokovic by 15 points.
     
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    Dreeeeeeaaaam, the impossible dreeeeeaaaaammm....

    who knows.

    whatever Fed does in his career is gravy to me.,

    Personally...I would love for him to get 300 weeks, dominate indoor tennis this fall and win the US open.

    If he retired after that, Id be happy.
     
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  21. JeMar

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    I find the fact that we're having this conversation to be absolutely amazing considering where Fed was after getting throttled by Nadal and Djokovic at the pre-Wimbledon slams this year.
     
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    Yeah! Federer surprised most of us by regaining the #1 spot so early (many said he would, but only after the US Open).
    So it's pretty hard to guess if he "will" or "won't" break other records, as the Maestro is full of surprises !!!!!
     
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    Not to mention, Fed holds many other records that Sampras isn't even in the top 5 or top 10 for.
     
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    But to me it's not even about those numbers, it's about how he plays tennis. It takes my breath away, i'm enraptured watching him glide around the court smacking winners, dropshots that defy imagination, half volleys no one else dares attempt and clutch serving.
     
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    Anything is possible for Roger Federer. The guy is a legend.
     
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    This is perfect! I didn't realize it was a typo for a second and I thought of Roper from Threes Company then I see this. This really made me crack up.
     
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    The battle is to win Olympic Gold and especially the US Open as they are tied one all in slams at the moment.

    If Federer loses both but reaches 300 by having a good final quarter he will consider that a consolation prize.

    The main prizes are clear.
     
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  28. cork_screw

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    Damn I hope so.
     
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    To do it, he has to keep his #1 ranking till late October. (13 weeks from now).

    Summer Olympics- All Federer has to do is go one round better than Djokovic. Very doable.

    Rogers Cup- Federer has a R16 to defend, Djokovic a win. This plays into Federers hands.

    Cinci- Federer a QF to defend, Djokovic a final. Again, looking good for Federer.

    US Open- The big one. Federer has a SF to defend, Djokovic a win. We shall see what happens....

    China- Fed not playing in this one. Djoko is. Not good at all.

    Shanghai- Both didn't play last year.

    Basel- Federer has a win to defend, Djokovic a SF.. should be interesting.

    Overall Fed has to "do less" than Nole to get the 300 weeks, as he has much less to defend, but time will tell I suppose..
     
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  31. merlinpinpin

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    Yeah, but at this stage, I'm pretty sure he isn't playing to get to 300. Ranking-wise, he's obviously looking at the year-end #1 right now (which automatically means more weeks than 300, btw, but will be harder to achieve--I do believe the odds favour him atm, though)
     
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  32. sbengte

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    Yes, apparently. Congrats, old man.
     
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  33. -RF-

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    312 (6 years) weeks the next target!
     
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    the sheep has sailed
     
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  35. roysid

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    Well Fed has reached 300 weeks. But that one match against wawrinka he had to win
     
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