Will it be good or bad for tennis when Djokovic retires?

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  1. TMF

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    That doesn't mean you're going to be likeable or gain support, just to let you know.
     
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  2. sportsfan1

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    Is it like asking "Will it be good or bad if 5555 stopped creating these threads about the Djoker?" ;-)

    It depends on what legacy he builds by the time he retires- if he transitions to being a champion who's widely loved and respected.
     
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  4. NADALbULLS

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    Djokovic's retirement will only impact the Australian Open (although I suspect that reign is about to end anyway).
     
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  5. TMF

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    Attention seeker doesn't equate to an alpha male.
     
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    Are you an Alpha male? You seem to have a very strong foundation in logic (LOL), care to explain what your background is?
     
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  7. 5555

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    I'm not an attention seeker.

    Yes, but that's an opinion.

    Why should I give out such personal information to you?
     
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  9. Omega_7000

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    No. It will not be good. Djokovic has a nice game. not as aggressive as I typically enjoy but still good.

    Only Nadal fans will say it will be good if Djokovic retires.
     
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    Let the people be the judge, you can't convince anyone. Get it ?
     
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    Well, Djokovic's presence had impact on Federer at the US Open and RG and Nadal ummmm ... practically everywhere outside of RG as well.
     
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    You are aware that Nadal leads their h2h 20-15 (and 7-3 at the slams), right? The only surface Nadal cares about is clay. And the only slam Djokovic now cares about is Roland Garros. Djokovic fans would love to see the end of Nadal. Not the other way around :lol:
     
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    The only reason Djokovic lost at Roland Garros was his lack of presence, actually. Djokovic was up a break in the 5th set and Nadal walked all over him with 22 winners in the set. And in the Wimbledon final, Murray won the big points and won in straight sets.... And US Open, Murray won that last year with clutchness beyond Djokovic's reach.
     
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    Um, what?

    Djokovic did better at RG than the previous year against Nadal.

    Funny that you mention how Djokovic lost his lead in the fifth. Kinda like Nadal did it in the AO 2012 final against the same guy that you diss about that.

    Again, what has Murray to do with this?

    I gave examples with both Nadal and Federer.
     
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    Good.

    And he can take the rest of the dopers with him
     
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    What are you talking about ???

    You self-proclaimed who you are has NO effect on other people judges you.

    You can argue that you're not an attention seeker all you want, but that's not going to change one's perspective.
     
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    You've stated that I'm an attention seeker and to support your claim you've made the appeal to the masses which is a logical fallacy.
     
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    Is that a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the first question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the second question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the third question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the fourth question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the fifth question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the sixth question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the seventh question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the eighth question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the ninth question a fact or an opinion? And is your answer to the tenth question a fact or an opinion?
     
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    Yes, I considered you an attention seeker based on the way you presented yourself on this forum. In your defense has no bearing on who judges you. All I said is let the people to decide.

    Once again...attention seeker doesn't equate to alpha male.

    Capiche ?
     
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  21. 5555

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    Fact.

    To support your claim you've made the appeal to the majority and that is logical fallacy ad populum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

    I'm not an attention seeker.
     
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    Personally, I don't really like Djokovic, and this is based on his attitude in the early stages of his career when he was camped at the #3 spot in the rankings behind Nadal and Federer.

    However, every time a top player retires, it's never good. I think we always want to have these guys around as even when the time comes when they can't dominate the way they used to match after match after match, they still have the game where if everything clicks for straight weeks, they can win a slam. This is much better than a guy in his prime whose best game isn't a winning one.

    Fortunately for all of us, I don't think Djokovic is planning to retire any time soon.
     
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    I think whenever a multiple grand slam champion retires from tennis, it doesn't exactly help the sport. Whether you like his/her playing style or not.
     
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    A bad guy is good for tennis. I really hate Djoker but tennis was boring when everyone was worshipping Federer.

    Where Djoker is bad for the game is when he's completely dominating with his ugly strokes and negative tennis. Like Lleyton Hewitt, Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe he will be liked much more when he isn't as good anymore.

    The incredibly boring Murrovic match up is unfortunate because they're both good to watch against Fedal.
     
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    Why is this even a question?
    This thread is unwarranted.
     
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    If so, prove it. If you don't, you will have lost the argument and it will have just been an opinion.
     
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  30. Steffi-forever

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    I cannot imagine the tour without him...
    You can all say whatever you want but he's the only player who can constantly challenge Nadal on clay. And that's saying a lot.
     
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    I can and it is glorious. Lol.
     
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    You want proof that appeal to the masses is a logical fallacy?
     
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    Yes, I want proof. If you don't provide me with proof, you will lose the argument.
     
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    If the belief of any individual can be wrong, then the belief held by multiple persons can also be wrong. That's the proof.
     
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    Why doesn't this thread have a poll - Don't you want to know the answer?
     
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    If Djoker retires early, many would simply ask:
    "What if Djokovic....."
    "Will Djokovic still be number 1?"
    "Will it be won by Djokovic?"
     
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    Great, because somebody whose name rhymes with bico would then move to the former pro player section instead
     
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    You do not need a poll to say what you think.
     
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