Will Rafa win RG 2013?

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Will Rafa win RG 2013?

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  1. batz

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    Before today I had him as a stick-on to win it. I still have him as favourite, but the door is more ajar than it has ever been.


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  2. kishnabe

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    Will Rafa even play RG 2013?....
     
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    If he is around still and actually present in the tournament, he will win it.
     
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  4. cluckcluck

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    I wonder what the media would say if he were to win the 2013 FO? "He is undoubtedly the greatest clay courter of all time! He's come back from the more horrific of situations."
    I can almost picture the montage of Rafa.
     
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  5. Clarky21

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    No.

    10obviousanswers
     
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  6. Ico

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    The general public doesn't have enough info on his condition to make an informed choice. Obviously he could, but I'll vote after Monte Carlo.
     
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  7. veroniquem

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    Lol... If he plays it, I like his chances. He will be fresher for clay season than he has ever been. That is not good news for the competition.
     
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  8. Homeboy Hotel

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    No

    QF Berdych 4 sets
     
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  9. West Coast Ace

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    Changing of the Guard. Djokovic will finish his career slam.
     
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  10. Monsieur_DeLarge

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    I voted "no", but then again, I wouldn't bet against it... :-?

    Honestly, I'm 50/50 over whether he's going to postpone again and not play Acapulco (and IW/Miami). If he does I can't see him winning Monte Carlo on his first tourney back, despite his superhuman clay skills. But if he loses, I think rivals like Djokovic will start to have enough self-belief to take him down. He needs the Mexican and American events as warm-ups, or he'll be too ring-rusty for the clay season.


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  11. Mike Sams

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    If Del Potro and Djokovic are in elite form and end up on Nadal's side of the draw.....INTERESTING things may occur! :)
    But I like Nadal's chances of getting the 2013 RG. He's still the favourite.
     
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  12. monfed

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    Oh gosh the overreaction on these boards. Ralph is a lock unless Djokovic 2.0 turns up(which he won't since that was his peak and his peak is done,evidence of that is his 2012 form).

    How many matches do people have to see to understand that players don't have an answer to Ralph's moonballing especially on clay? The guy has lost 1 match in friggin 8 years FFS, one would've thought someone would've figured out a way to beat him with a decent margin but unless someone absolutely redlines ala Soderling or Djokovic 2.0 turns up,who's gonna beat him? Name one and don't mention Berdych coz all you'll get is laughter.

    And honestly people who think that Ralph won't turn up for RG 2013 due to his supposed injury have no friggin clue of what Ralph truly wants and how his camp thinks and what Ralph's ambitions are.

    Here's a hint then why not? Ralph hasn't skipped one clay season since 05,NOT ONE due to any reason(no knees nothing). Chew on that for a bit. And please don't give me the reason of "clay is good on the body" BS, seriously I'm way too old for that baloni.
     
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  13. Homeboy Hotel

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    Isner? :) 2-1 up in 2011
     
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  14. underground

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    Exactly.

    No.

    R16 Janowicz 5 sets

    And let's see who voted for Yes in the poll? It's such a hard decision to guess between RAFA2005RG and 6-1 6-3 6-0 :lol:
     
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  15. NRod2

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    the question should be:

    "Should we give a **** about the French Open?"

    And the answer is no.
     
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  16. forzamilan90

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    Nope.....Federer to win major #19 there
     
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  17. nikdom

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    Really iffy to say right now. Djokovic is focused on the FO as his priority for 2013. I doubt that even if Nadal comes back for clay, he'll be as sharp to fight off a determined Murray/Nole. Heck, even Roger might fancy his chances against Nadal at the FO.
     
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  18. cc0509

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    I don't think so. I think Nadal should be back for clay and if he is, he is the favorite.
     
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  19. Phoenix1983

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    I doubt he will win it, but he still has a chance on this surface.
     
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  20. nikdom

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    Cmon man. For a guy who hasn't stepped on court in 6 months, has had to drop out of a friggin exhibition with a virus and now out of a slam, you're telling me he's automatically a favorite for a tournament 6 months down the road?
     
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    Yes, on clay Nadal is always the heavy favorite unless he is seriously injured or ill or too old.
     
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  22. nikdom

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    So what is he exactly right now? And what makes you so certain he'll be 100% in June?
     
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    I don't think he is seriously injured, never did.
     
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  24. Retaliation

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    I hope not.
     
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  25. -RF-

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    Wil he play?
     
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  26. augustobt

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    He will win because he isn't ill nor injured.
     
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  27. monfed

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    Exactly. He'll be back on court running around like a jack rabbit and win everything on clay. 2012 he pulls out of Miami due to a supposed injury and look what happened after. :lol:
     
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  28. Retaliation

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    haha...I love it, because, he only loses or doesn't play if it's one or the other. When healthy, nobody wins!!! (except Nadal). :)
     
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  29. mistik

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    No he wont.His career is over.He resigned from ATP council and the he made ugly sponsorship deal with a gambling company right before Wimbledon all were well planned.He knows that he will never play again.
     
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  30. FlashFlare11

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    RG 2011 and 2012 showed me that no matter Nadal's form or confidence level going into it, he will be favorite regardless at RG. I would not put much, if anything, into his withdrawal at AO regarding his chances during the clay season.
     
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  31. Hitman

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    IF he is playing it, I wouldn't bet against him. He's a wrecking machine on clay, a bit like Clubber Lang - He just brutalizes you on that court.
     
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  32. Ellipses

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    Depends on his clay court run leading up to it. If he does relatively well and gets some run, he's the heavy favourite as usual. If he gets knocked out early or looks rusty, all those months off might have taken a chunk out of his stamina and that is a heavy blow with his play style.
     
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  33. The_Order

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    Of course he'll win it, tell me who will beat him?
     
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  34. Monsieur_DeLarge

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    Just checked my preferred betting sites, and Rafa is still the even-money favourite in both.


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  35. sbengte

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    All of the above. Has Nadal skipped any clay season or any clay masters all through his career ? So if he sweeps the next clay season and wins RG , will people still continue to believe he was seriously injured all this while ? Will be interesting to see.
     
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  36. zagor

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    He missed 2004 FO, Wilander and Chang won it (FO) at 17 if I'm not mistaken so I wouldn't have put it past 17-18 year old Nadal to win it either.
     
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  37. Hood_Man

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    I'd say yes, he's got plenty of clay tournaments to warm up for it. He won't be turning up without practise.
     
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  38. Bartelby

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    If he plays the season, he wins.
     
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    The way things are going, there's a better chance of a nickname RafawinsRG2013 than Rafa winning RG 2013.
     
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  40. jokinla

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    No, and that's if he plays it at all.
     
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  41. Gonzo_style

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    We'll see what happens in tournaments on clay prior to Roland Garros, then we will know better...
     
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  42. slice bh compliment

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    ^This is the internet. There is no place for patience, reason and logic. Kindly step up or step off, sir.^

    Nadal is clearly finished. His ranking will still be high enough by May to get him into the draw, though.
    In the first round, Rafa will lose to Gilbert Schaller, who will be making a comeback.
    Schaller will lose to Muster in the second round,
    who will lose to Kafelnikov,
    who will lose to Bruguera,
    who will lose to JCFerrero,
    who will lose to Coria,
    who will lose to Guga in the final.

    Rafa is done winning RG. Until 2022, when he will win the coveted ATP comeback player of the year award. It will be So Raven (which is like saying it'll be EPIC, only without the overuse of the word, EPIC.)
     
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  43. vive le beau jeu !

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    may the clay curse be finally over...

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  44. veroniquem

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    It's all gonna depend on the state of his knees. If his knees are fine, he will win RG as usual but that is one big "if" at this point.
     
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  45. -RF-

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    Isner took 2 sets off a prime clay Rafa, no?
     
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  46. veroniquem

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    2011 was actually Rafa's worst season on clay (along with 2009). Isner still didn't take the match.
     
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  47. The_Order

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    Who won RG that year?
     
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  48. RAFA2005RG

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    Isner took 2 sets off Nadal in 2011. You say that was prime Rafa? What does that make 2012 Nadal? :lol:

    2012 Nadal won:
    Monte Carlo (without dropping a set),
    Barcelona (without dropping a set),
    Rome (without dropping a set),
    Roland Garros (only dropped one set).
     
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  49. Hitman

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    LMAO!!!! :)
     
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  50. DropShotArtist

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    Nadal is effectively guaranteed FO13 with all of the rest and relaxation he's had, while the rest of the tour is killing itself playing.
     
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