Will Ralph win AO 2013?

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Will Ralph win AO 2013?

Poll closed Dec 29, 2012.
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  1. batz

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    Yes he has - he said it was the US Open :) I tend to agree with you re Noel and the AO - I'm tipping him to win it in January.

    I'm being greedy now - but I'd like to see Murray win a Wimbledon title at some point - I've always felt he plays well on grass.
     
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  2. Crisstti

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    I seem to remember he got pretty much robbed of the first set and should have won in straights.

    Any hard court suits Berdych's game better. Nadal is just much better as a player.

    Guess you missed the USO final last year.
     
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  3. axel89

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    he was tired uso 2008 also Berdych played one of his best matches there's no way nadal should of won in straights
     
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  4. Feather

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    I feel that Roger will win against Nadal if they meet in AO 2013..
     
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    Nadal already said his holiday will help his career a lot. Reason being, he had time to heal his niggling injuries. And it didn't cost him a Roland Garros title. He chose the best time to have a holiday. If he could take 6 months off every year he'd probably still be winning Roland Garros at age 37.

    Regarding Murray, in 2011 Nadal beat him in 3 out of 3 slam meetings. Whatever Murray had going for him vs Nadal is clearly gone. Djokovic too, has lost momentum vs Nadal. And by the way, Djokovic is NOT improving. He's going backwards.
     
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  6. batz

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    Remind me how many points Rafa got in the last set he played v Murray? What's Rafa's hardcourt slam record v Murray since 2008 - c'mon; you like a head to head stat - what is it?
     
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    He didn't really say that, and if he really thinks that he's stupid. However, Murray also didn't convince me after the US Open that he is the man to beat and a favourite over Roger and Rafa. Of course is US Open showed he can win a slam. We already knew that, but it showed he's in the mix more than ever. However, I can relate to monfed's comment in a sense that his post US Open play was somewhat disappointing and kind of showed that he at this point is not yet where Djokovic is in that department. Does that mean he cant win the AO? Sure not. He cna totally win it. But to me it also showed that particularly Djokovic is still at a bit of a higher level in terms of consistency, which makes him the favourite over Murray. This might've been different had Murray also won say Shanghai and WTF
     
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  8. batz

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    He strongly implied it Joeri. For the record, I was also disappointed about Murray's performances after the USO, he could easily have won in Tokyo, Shanghai and Paris - his lapses versus Noel and Sexi at the WTF were also disappointing - but not too disapointing as he'd just won the USO :)

    Murray himself has said in the last week that in the last couple of years he has been fixated on winning a slam - to the detriment of his performances in the lesser events, and that he will be looking to be much more consistent in 2013.
     
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    The same number of points that Djokovic won vs Nishikori in the deciding set of their 2011 meeting.

    Which do you value more, a US Open meeting between Nadal and Murray, or a meeting one month later at Tokyo? :lol:

    Exactly my point, Murray beat Nadal at the 2008 US Open. That is why Nadal beating Murray at the 2011 US Open wasn't a good sign for Murray. He's taken a step back vs Nadal.

    And before you point to Murray's 2012 US Open title, just remember that Djokovic played rather horrid in the final.
     
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  10. batz

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    Djoker's level of play had nothing ot do with murray's USO win - that was solely down to the wind.

    I'm not quite sure why you are fixating about what happened in 2011 - a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then. The fact is that since Murray entered the upper echelons of the game in the 2nd half of 2008, he is 2-1 versus Rafa in hardcourt slams and 5-4 overall on hardcourt.

    If you want to conclude from this data that Rafa cannot lose to Murray at the AO13 then feel free to do so.
     
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    Why? After age 37 he can't take six months off every year? :wink:
     
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    If you think more carefully , the draw also should not be a surprise, it will be Fed/Nole & Rafa/Murraa .
     
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  13. batz

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    If you think even more carefully than that, you'll realise that it is impossible for the 1st & 2nd and 3rd & 4th seeds to be drawn in the same half.
     
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    oops.... sry :D, so it should be same as this years AO , Fed/Rafa, Nole/Murray, but rafa and Nole wont be mixed together.
     
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    lol batz owned you! and i agree with your draw predictions last years final was the best!
     
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    No need for apologies mate.

    Rafa will be drawn to play either Roger or Nole in the semis, same for Murray. Rafa and Murray can only meet in the final, same for Noel and Roger.
     
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    Murray or djokovic ******* has no chance!
     
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  18. Sabratha

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    I actually think Federer will get it this year. I don't know, it's just a feeling I have.
     
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  19. monfed

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    You're late to the party,sweetheart,the jinx is ON and can't be turned off. ;) :lol:

    FTR this ain't a jinx thread
     
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    good observation but djokovic at AO is a beast and has beaten federer 2/3 times in straights and the only time he lost was when fed was in his prime and djokovic was nowere close to there. So in my opinion fed will beat murray and djokovic should be able to beat fed murray and nadal
     
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  21. vive le beau jeu !

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    seems like a wizard contest with you, the antijinx master... :rolleyes:

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  22. Sabratha

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    If Berdych, Tsonga or Del Potro causes an upset in the quarters and takes Djokovic out, that would leave the draw wide open for Federer. All Federer would have to do is take out Murray in the semifinal and then take out the winner of the semifinal match on the other side of the draw (could be between Nadal and Berdych, or Nadal and Tsonga or Del Potro), and since Nadal has been out of the game for a while, he could well lose his semifinal match against one of those players.
     
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    This is never ever going to happen. People really have got to stop talking as if any of these guys have a chance in h*ll of beating Cvac because it is just not going to happen.


    And Fed ain't winning the AO because Cvac already has.
     
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  24. Sabratha

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    It can happen. Djokovic retired in 2009 VS Roddick, what's to say he won't do that this year against one of those guys?
     
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    Because he won't. He knows those guys will implode against him so he has no fear of losing to them. He won't lose to anyone next year at the AO (and probably the whole season . Lol) least of all any of those dudes.
     
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  26. Sabratha

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    Everybody is prone to an upset. Even Nadal was on clay.
     
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  27. Clarky21

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    Everybody but Cvac.
     
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  28. Sabratha

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    Just accept the fact that Djokovic can lose at the AO. He isn't super human, you know.
     
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  29. Clarky21

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    Until he actually loses there he is unbeatable.
     
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  30. Sabratha

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    He has lost there, a few times.
     
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  31. beast of mallorca

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    Hahaha, 2 jinx witches trying to outdo one another........................only in TW :twisted:
     
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  32. NadalAgassi

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    More like having competition who is the biggest troll. Even Clarky has probably met his match there with monfed though.
     
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  33. Clarky21

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    Her. I am a she.
     
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  34. Clarky21

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    Not in the last 3 years he hasn't.
     
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  35. dudeski

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    LOL. Damn I was too busy to write that. :)

    BTW Clarky21 is always trying to jinx Djokovic and yet she complains when someone dares to jinx Nadal. What a sad insecure troll she is.
     
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  36. beast of mallorca

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    Monfed is no match for Clarky21. He can not even hold the sandals Clarky is wearing :).
    She's # 1 here in TW, bar none :twisted: (but sure Monfed can get there someday as well)
     
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  37. Sabratha

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    He's come close in 2012.
     
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    I don't see how anyone could take AO2013 from Federer - he is playing better than ever with his elegant strokes and obviously there is no match for him anywhere near the tour. The swawp-like turtle conditions of blue clay mega-swamp forced onto Australia by uncle Toni and little Djordje will not deter Federer from marching into the glorious twilight without losing a set or a game in this particular grand-slam tennis event.
     
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  39. Sabratha

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    You're joking, right? Federer will most likely nearly lose to a few players on the way to his victory this year.
     
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    Coming close isn't actually losing. And next year we will see the 2011 version of Cvac show up at the AO so I doubt he will even drop a set throughout the whole tournament.
     
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    He is in the best form of his life, so why would any of his matches even be close?
     
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    No. We will see the 2013 Djokovic show up, burned out from his winnings last year.
     
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    He wasn't burned out from his winnings in 2011 this year,so I doubt he will be burned out next year either.
     
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  44. Sabratha

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    At the start of the year he was.
     
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    He wasn't at the end of the year,and his form will carry over to the AO and throughout the whole year next year.
     
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  46. Sabratha

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    And how do you know that for sure?
     
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  47. Clarky21

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    Because of the cycle.
     
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  48. Sabratha

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    But the cycle you're referring to is non-repeating. In essense it's not even really a "cycle". Just a once repeating loop that has now come to an end. There's a chance he won't win the AO next year as the other top guys (when compared to January 2012) are at a much higher level.
     
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    You're thinking of a different cycle.
     
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  50. beast of mallorca

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    Stop talking about your ........l cycle Clarky. That's disgusting.......:twisted:
     

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