will someone please tell Chris Evert to just stop talking

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by lcalamar, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. lcalamar

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    I really enjoy watching tennis matches and the Li Na Azeranka final was no exception.

    however, ESPN announcers are brutally bad.. they don't seem to understand that a match like today's doesn't need manufactured drama.

    there were many tense moments where the play and players didn't need endless droning on about. just shut up and let me enjoy the match.

    I hate that a player I used to really enjoy (evert), I now can't stand because she just drones on and on and on with absolutely nothing of value to add.

    Evert may be the worst but this seems to be ESPN's style, always trying to manufacture drama and ALL of their on air personalities follow this script (except Darren Cahill).

    ...and stats - just STOP, they don't add any value, I am watching the match I don't need to have stats shoved at me constantly.

    once again, just let the tennis speak for itself...

    what a shame that ESPN got tennis rights, it has really reduced my enjoyment of watching these events.
     
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  2. axel89

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    stop whining seriously find a stream or qq I find espn perfectly fine if you don't then go find another stream or something
     
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  3. shideg

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    Got a mute button on your TV remote?

    But you do have a point. I thought about making a drinking game - taking a shot or whatever every time someone mentions a Williams sister in any WTA match they aren't playing in, but I don't want to become a lush.
     
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  4. Irvin

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    Maybe you should record the match do a voice over and then watch it.
     
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  5. lcalamar

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    Yeah - ESPN loves the William sisters - probably because there is always so much drama always surrounding them. ESPN trying to tie Sloan Stevens to Serena Williams was really weak.

    I wonder how coverage on The Tennis Channel was? I don't get it but may be worth switching providers just for that reason.

    I just want to sit and watch my favorite sport and not have to work so hard to enjoy it. I shouldn't have to figure out how to stream it, or mute the sound or change carriers or whatever.

    I find it hard to believe that many others don't share my same issues with ESPN? IF not - then I guess I am whining.

    However - when the semis and finals were on CBS (or NBC) - with JOHN McEnroe and that team - I very much enjoyed those broadcasts.

    I stand by my assessment that ESPN is the problem.
     
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  6. boredone3456

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    I'll take Evert over Carillo any day.
     
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  7. lcalamar

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    Ha - I was just wondering if I still felt that way. There are lots of threads already out here debating the various announcers - and certainly Evert and Carillo are always near the top.

    My thinking here was that Evert was the poster child for the generally poor job that ESPN does. I'm of the mind set that ESPN is pulling all the strings on the constant talking and drama.

    ESPN's track record of not letting sports events just be sporting events (letting the sport stand on it's own) - is indisputable. Not sure yet if they create poor announcers - or if poor announcing is just what ESPN does?
     
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  8. Dedans Penthouse

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    ESPN in a nutshell..Linda Cohn: as a "football expert" pls. tell me: which end is up?

    Interesting way of phrasing it. Well done.
     
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    I just heard James Blake commentating today during the Isner/Belucci match. Good lord that was horrible. Give me Chris Evert over James Blake.
     
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  10. Cindysphinx

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    I have one small, humble request.

    Networks, can you please please do the math for me when you show a stat?

    We get to a set tiebreak, and they put this on the screen:

    Tiebreak records:

    Tsonga: 112/79 for 2012, 463/661 lifetime

    Vasquez: 42/63 for 2012, 111/128 lifetime

    And I am supposed to figure that out and compare the win percentages in six seconds?
     
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    The people I want to be on ESPN: Hewitt, Safin, and Roddick. :)
     
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    Announcers are paid to talk and most say anything to keep talking, thats why I use the mute button.
     
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  13. omega4

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    Tell Chris Evert to just stop talking?

    I think Greg Norman did when he divorced her.

     
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  14. Goosehead

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    everytime he pulled it out of her mouth..she started talking again..:twisted:

    so he thought, oh no..she wont ever shut up..time for a divorce i think. :twisted:
     
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  15. NLBwell

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    It seems to me that ESPN has a script. Talk about stats A after the 3rd game, Talk about Serena Williams during the 6th game. Talk about the childhood of player A during the 9th game. Talk about stats B in the 10th game. Talk about an unknown celebrity during the tiebreaker, etc.

    Fine if the match is a 6-1 6-1 blowout, but not if a decent match is going on.
    If you get ESPN 360 you can often get the matches without a commentary, depending on what court they are on.
     
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  16. lcalamar

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    Stats are simply another mechanism for the announcers to have something to drone on about.

    During a match previous stats are meaningless and have no bearing on the outcome of a particular game or match.
     
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    I don't know where she lives, but I will give it a try.
     
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    "Chrissie" always comes off very self-absorbed in my experiences seeing her do matches and commentary, and she gets *****y pretty easy too.

    Less "Chrissie" and more Mary Jo would be great, imo.
     
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    Anyone else hate Pam shriver?
     
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    Me too!!!!! I read somewhere that Mary C got fired? Is that true?
     
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  21. tripolim39

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    yeah i'm not a big fan of chris evert commentating that's for sure, i enjoy mary jo fernandez much more. i remember hearing boris becker commentating and it was quick fast to the point and he would shut up during the points!
     
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  22. tacou

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    I dislike when commentators talk during points. It is disrespectful all for the audience to do it, and most commentators try to refrain from it, but some talk and talk as if the match isn't even going on.

    I don't know what OP means about stats. I find the stats they present in tennis to be sorely lacking. Stats are a part of professional sports but they do not even keep track of relevant/attractive stats such as match/tournament averages.
     
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  23. lcalamar

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    what I mean by stats is while they may be interesting, they do not really say anything about the particular event currently under way. the only stat that matters during a match is who won. espn loves to throw stats at us in an effort to entice us into predicting how a match may play out. But stats are always backward looking. I hate to dredge an old axiom up but statistics are for losers...

    here's another example of why stats are not helpful during a match:

    ...your Dr. says there is a 10% survival rate for your illness. this only means that of 100 people that only 10 will survive. however there is no way of knowing if you fall into the 90% or 10% category. therefore it is not predictive of YOUR situation.

    ... so if Federer wins 65% of his tie breakers' it does not mean there is a 65% likelihood he will win the current tiebreaker he is playing.

    ESPN presents stats like the latter. the only 'value' in them is their announcers have another excuse to keep flapping their lips.

    Sorry for the diatribe. :-?
     
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  24. tacou

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    I get you..I find the IBM stats interesting but ultimately agree with you, they seem so arbirtrary and sometimes obvious: If Murray converts 80% of his BP chances, he wins 70% of the time. OK..cool?

    However as a basketball fan I don't see why things like Average Winners Per Match or Average Aces Per Match aren't shown. "Murray averages 5.5 aces and he's got 7 in the second set! He's serving out of his mind!"

    Most tennis fans don't seem that interested in stats though. Oh well
     
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  25. Subventricular Zone

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    She really has this flair for stating the obvious, doesn't she?
     
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  26. lcalamar

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    Or rather ... for being ob-li-vious
     
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    For me, the problem with Becker is his English accent. It's just makes him sound so dull that i don't really listen to him. But much worse, and i liked her as a player: Novotna. The verbal equivalent of nails on a blackboard. Re Evert, I like her accent which is pleasing on the ears. My favourite is Jo Durie (eurosport/bbc) who speaks with a pleasant lilt but also with knowledge and humour. I'm English so maybe that influences my preferences.
     
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  28. TonyB

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    Wait, WHAT???

    :confused:


    He's GERMAN. Wow.
     
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  29. PDJ

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    Ah that makes sense. So by that reckoning novotna isn't from yorkshire? :)
     
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