Will there ever be another lefty vs. lefty GS final

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  1. Tammo

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    Sort of an odd question, but the last lefty all final was 2005 RG. Nadal would have to be one player but who is the other. IMO the most likely chance for it to happen soon would be Nadal vs Lopez at Wimbledon. lopez has gotten to 3 quarter finals there and beat A-rod there last year.

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    Fiasco, if he grows mentally. That's a big IF!
     
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    Verdasco Nadal final would be disgusting. There are no great Lefties currently other than Nadal.
     
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    They don't happen that often.

    All left-hander major men's singles finals in the open era
    1968 Wimbledon: Rod Laver def. Tony Roche (6-3, 6-4, 6-2)
    1969 US Open: Rod Laver def. Tony Roche (7-9, 6-1, 6-2, 6-2)
    1975 US Open: Manuel Orantes def. Jimmy Connors (6-4, 6-3, 6-3)
    1977 Australian Open (January): Roscoe Tanner def. Guillermo Vilas (6-3, 6-3, 6-3)
    1977 US Open: Guillermo Vilas def. Jimmy Connors (2-6, 6-3, 7-6, 6-0)
    1982 Wimbledon: Jimmy Connors def. John McEnroe (3-6, 6-3, 6-7, 7-6, 6-4)
    1984 Wimbledon: John McEnroe def. Jimmy Connors (6-1, 6-1, 6-2)
    1998 Australian Open: Petr Korda def. Marcelo Rios (6-2, 6-2, 6-2)
    2005 French Open: Rafael Nadal def. Mariano Puerta (6-7, 6-3, 6-1, 7-5)
     
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    Thanks, Mustard! Many of these were one-sided, except for '82Wimby...on my Top 10 Matches Ever list.
     
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  6. jokinla

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    At some point yes, but no chance Verdasco makes it in their, and not much better odds for FLo.
     
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    He was right there @AO three years ago vs Ralph...that match is also in my top 10 ever. He's two years younger than Delicioso. He has the game, just needs to find the mental keys. It will have to happen soon...28 and counting.
     
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    In the next 50 years, yes.
     
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  9. nadal_slam_king

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    Nadal is actually right-handed. But he does play tennis left-handed, true.
     
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    As stated, for it to happen there should be two left handed top players like Connors/Mcenroe or Roche/laver.

    I can't see Verdasco/belluci/mulzer able to reach slam finals.
     
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    I believe there's a bigger chance of Feliciano Lopez reaching the Wimbledon final than Verdasco being runner-up at the French.
     
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    Why even post this? common knowledge, didn't need to be said.
     
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  13. jokinla

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    Unfortunately he's nowhere near the player now that he was then, he would have to drastically change things to get back there, and of course that time was before Djoker 2.0, back then he just had Nadal and Fed to worry about, now he's got Djoker as well, so even if he got back to that level, he's got another big gun to get by, not gonna happen.
     
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    We agree...my first post said "IF" in caps for a reason. But nothing is impossible...in a so-called "stronger" era, we had Korda and T Johansson win majors. My probability scale goes...Verdasco @ AO/USO, Lopez @ Wimby, not anytime soon. Who knows? Maybe Bellucci channels his Madrid '11 form, gets in the top half of the RG draw, finishes Djok and finals vs Ralph.
     
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    Precisely why the ones that say this is a weak era, are just morons.
     
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  16. elpolaco84

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    the thing is: will there ever be another GREAT lefty vs GREAT lefty GS final? like laver-roche connors-Mcenroe, Vilas-connors,etc
     
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  17. jokinla

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    Of course there will, who knows when, but it'll happen. Rafa's decision to play lefty, even though he's right handed, will surely inspire others to do the same.
     
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  18. elpolaco84

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    yeah, i hope so, but it's been almost 30yrs and counting(wimbledon1984 mcenroe vs connors) sin we saw 2 great leftys in a GS final
    i also hope we don't have to wait 20 years or more to see one of that kind again
     
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    Lefthanders are about 10 percent of the general population. If they are proportionally represented among top tennis pros, the chance of two of them meeting in a final would be 1 in 100, or one GS final about every 25 years. The true odds may be a little better if we surmise that lefthanders may have some advantage because they present a less familiar game to other players.
     
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    I wasn't aware the ratio was so low in the general population, but with a minor Google search I also found an interesting theory put forth by scientists that lefties may be often the sole surviving fetus of twins in the uterus. When both twins survive to term, apparently there is a high rate of lefty/righty mates. Bryan Bros.? Wonder if Fed girls will turn out that way too?

    BTW, I am naturally lefty and was a huge baby at birth...a 1/4 oz. shy of 10 lbs. My mom was tiny...5'2"/110 lbs. Those facts may help support the above-mentioned theory. Unfortunately, my older brother was righty and my first learned sport was baseball, with the aid of his hand-me-down glove for the left hand. While I still write lefty (and type with the left index finger), I play all sports righty. A reverse Ralph, no?
     
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  21. elpolaco84

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    yeah very interesting (and weird) about the tiwns

    Jurgen Melzer is also right handed but plays left handed like Nadal
    Moya and Acasuso are natural lefties that play right handed
     
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    Why would one play right-handed if he is naturally left-handed?
     
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  23. elpolaco84

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    Who knows, but like in box, some coaches are inexperienced with southpaws so they train their pupils to fight with a right handed stance
     
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    Yeah, because nobody beats Roddick nowadays. I think the next US Open final will be Denis Istomin vs. Pablo Cuevas, since they both beat Roddick on hard court. And better watch out for Flavio Cipolla, I choose him as dark horse for the FO this year.

    But to be honest I don't see any way for it happening at all in the near future. It's just impossible. I don't see Lopez making any grand slam final ever, as much as I like his game. And Verdasco doesn't have much more chance either. We'll have to wait for some new lefty to enter the tour and surprise us.
     
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  25. RCizzle65

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    This, I can't imagine any of these players beating multiple top 10 players to make a slam final.
     
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    Lendl plays golf left-handed, but he was right-handed when playing tennis.
     
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    Think about this baseball oddity...many players bat and throw lefty or righty, many bat left and throw right, almost NONE bat righty and throw lefty. Even switch-hitters usually throw righty.
     
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  28. li0scc0

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    I switch-hit in baseball and threw lefty. You are right, there are a lot of switch hitters in baseball, most of us were ambidextrous. Batting righthanded I had just as much power, but a bit more bat control batting lefty. Hence why I play tennis lefty, more control.
    Our top pitcher threw right handed but did everything else lefty. He was a natural left hander, but as a child his father purchased him a glove for a right handed thrower, so he threw right handed. Worked out well :)
    On our '94 team we had 3 switch hitters in the starting lineup of 9. You don't see that as much any more.
     
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    Kvitova vs. Kerber
     
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    The Donald should make the US open final, not sure he will face another lefty though. OK its 5 oclock somewhere cut me some slack.
     
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    Nice! Another baseball fan! Here's a trivia question...name the only HOFer who batted righty/threw lefty???
     
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  32. li0scc0

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    Rickey Henderson!!!! Always found that combo strange!
     
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    I think we all know the answer to that. Left handed batters do better in general against right handed pitchers and most pitchers are right handed.
     
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    Lefty pitchers are outnumbered but at not nearly the 90/10 general population ratio or even the tennis playing ratio. Most MLB teams have at least one lefty in their five-man starting rotation and a couple of lefty relievers. Also, lefty hitters have more problems with lefty pitchers than RH hitters vs RH pitchers. Case in point, John Kruk's infamous bail-out vs Randy Johnson in an All Star game...I still ROFL when Krukkie does ESPN commentary, thinking about how he almost ran back to the dugout after the Big Unit's first delivery to him!

    Also, a huge reason there are few position players throwing lefty/batting righty...four field positions (C, 2B, SS, 3B) don't accomodate lefty throwers. Growing up throwing lefty limits your play to the mound, the OF or 1B. Even if you are a natural lefty, chances to play are greatly increased by getting that left-handed glove and getting arm strength for throwing righty.
     
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    I'm a natural left handed to was taught to play right handed.
    I learned to write and read when I was a month shy of four years. Back then, in the late 80s Argentina, apparently it was ¡¡¡¡WRONG!!!!! to write with the left handed so I was taught to write right handed.

    When I started playing tennis aged 9, they asked me which hand do I use for writing. Of course, I said Right. So I learned to play tennis right-handed.

    I do everything else left-handed. I played basketball all my life, and my entire life I shoot lefty. My friends say I'm ambidextrous. I don't consider myself ambi, I'm a lefty who writes and play tennis right handed (I play table tennis with either hand, but paddle tennis with my right)

    It can happen. I don't know why Moyá or Acasuso play right handed, but it's common knowledge they's lefties. I believe Sharapova is one as well.
     
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