Will Tiger Woods still tie or break Nicklaus's record

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Will Tiger ever tie or break Jack's record

  1. yes he will still do it

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  2. he will end up with 18 exactly, tied

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  3. no he will never reach 18 majors to even tie

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  1. ollinger

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    One of the remarkable things about Jack's record is that he not only won 18 majors but finished second 19 times. Unlike tennis where you can play like crap for two sets and still win a match in a major, a few holes of lousy play can end the tournament for you in golf, so finishing first or second 37 times strikes me as astounding.
     
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  2. r2473

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    That probably puts him a distant second behind Mickelson on that list :)
     
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  3. ollinger

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    ....but Phil has to deal with psoriatic arthritis and that B-cup rack.
     
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  4. West Coast Ace

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    ^^^^ +1! You two are on a roll. Vegas lounge act!

    I want to know why (well, I really do know why) the press doesn't suspect Eldrick of HGH use? His dad was 5'7", mom was barely 5'2" - and he's 6'1". I bet Earl gave it to him - he was obsessed with creating a pro golfer.

    Window of opportunity shut - he might eek out 1 more major. A big % of the field hits it just as far - so his huge advantage on the par 5's is gone - and the young guys aren't scared of him like the VJ Singh's of the 90's and early parts of the 00's were.
     
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  5. Rock Strongo

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    Just tuned in, WOODS IS THREE OVER?

    Also, read about Stenson's epic collapse. WHO DOES THAT?
     
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  6. NadalAgassi

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    It is still a long way to prove he is back to being even close to the top player in the game again. It takes alot more than winning ONE PGA event again finally to do that. And he wont have a decent shot to win say 1 major per year average again until he is the top player again IMO, and that is what he would have to get on course for if he were going to break the record. With all his injuries, that his very peak golf even if he makes a comeback to #1 someday is still many years in the past now, and the fact it doesnt happen often for anyone, he wont be winning hardly any majors past 40, so he will have to get back on track and start winning them at a decent rate fast if he has a chance. Nicklaus himself won 1 more after 40, and while he wasnt as physically strong or athletic in his youth as Tiger, he was much healthier and closer to his former peak form at that age as Tiger is today 5 years younger.

    Still it is good he is making a comeback of sorts. Woods, McIllroy, and Mickelson are the only 3 names that appeal to American golf fans at all. Actually Mickelson's first Masters win brought in lower ratings than the Weir vs Mattiace duel the year before, so he really isnt even a ratings getter in the U.S. Golf nuts might love Phil Mickelson, but casual fans apparently not so much.
     
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  7. r2473

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    I wonder how many people would know that Tiger is still #7 on the world golf rankings.
     
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  8. Polaris

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    I wonder how many people would care that Tiger is still #7 on the world golf rankings. :)
     
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  9. hollywood9826

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    His workouts were pretty hard core as well. No doubt he was doing something, and his injuries are very similar to that of those late 90's era baseball players.

    Earl Woods would make statements about Tiger that he was going to change the world. He was trying to create more than a golfer. He felt Tiger would be like Dr. King and have some large cultural impact. All Tiger ever wanted to do was kick everyone's butt at golf and crush some tang. He wants no part of the sacrifice of ones personal life it takes to actual get people to care about you.
     
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  10. BigServer1

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    A bunch of my friends are hardcore Tiger fans...FB was blowing up two weeks ago with "HE'S BACK!" posts.

    What a joke. He wins one event in three years and all of a sudden he's the favorite to win The Masters.

    Not only did Tiger play horribly and finish 40th, 15 shots off the winner, but he embarrassed himself in the process by acting like a petulant child, kicking/dropping his clubs and cursing at himself.

    18 is out of reach. He's 36 with a bum knee, a body that's betraying him and a swing that is wildly inconsistent. All the while, the field has improved. I think Tiger will catch fire once or twice over the next 5-8 years, but his days of dominance and being favored everywhere are long gone.
     
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  11. r2473

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    I think he just needs to settle down and get married..............
     
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  12. BigServer1

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    This is why the 2 year ranking system is a complete joke.
     
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  13. Kevin T

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    Great final day at Augusta. Anytime a guy named "Bubba" wins a golf tourney, I'm all for it. Outside of the triple, Lefty played a good round and might have pulled another one out.
     
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  14. Dedans Penthouse

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    19 titles? No.
    19 year olds, yes.

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  15. NadalAgassi

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    Although I dont think he will break the record anymore I hope he does. In his prime he would probably beat Nicklaus in his, but Nicklaus's prime will last longer due to Tiger's injuries and off course distractions. He is definitely playing better in general now than he was before, even though he didnt have a very good Masters. I think there will be a better idea in a year or two if the record is still realistic for him or not.
     
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  16. volleygirl

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    What on earth makes you assume Tiger would beat Jack in his prime? Oh yea, hes a current day player so he has to be better right? The PEDs surely helped Tiger accumulate his titles where Jack never did that.
     
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  17. NadalAgassi

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    One thing I didnt realize is Jack Nicklaus won only 4 majors total after age 35. Tiger is now 36 so officaly after 35 too now. Tiger is equal to where Jack was at this point. Tiger will have to best Jack as a "over 35" player to break or equal his record.
     
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  18. NadalAgassi

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    I think he would since I think in his prime he is more intimidating mentally to his peers, and more explosive off the tee (even considering the time). Also people who have played with Nicklaus like Johnny Miller and Arnaud Palmer, whose opinion I cede to far over mine of course, said they think Tiger at his best was better, even if he may not end up having the longevity.

    All that said Tiger plays in a much weaker era than Nicklaus did so if he cant even reach his majors record despite that, he should never be ranked as a greater golfer, even if I think in his prime he was probably better.
     
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    Tiger in the hunt in R1. Media seems ready to crown him...I'm still in wait and see mode. Even though momentum seems to favor him and he's been on a roll.
     
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  20. r2473

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    I can't believe the USGA allows our National Championship to be sullied by letting Chris Berman near a microphone. His presence is about as welcome as loud flatulence on a Sunday morning church pew. He's awful. Come on USGA and ESPN - never again.
     
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    R2 in the co lead. Now r3....hit some bad putts now in 5th place.

    Still the field is only 1 or 2 shots ahead. Now one is willing to take a huge lead into the final round.

    If Woods can adapt to changes is speed of the green....he going to take this.

    Still the 2010 Masters and 2009 PGA were such great chances. Hope he doesn't blow this away.
     
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