Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)

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    May look at some other options once I have 2-3 of these frames. Again, really liking the 4g just have to look at the overall durability in different gauges.
     
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    Hey peeps....haven't posted in a while but thought I'd chime in:

    I played with the 99s and 105s yesterday for a couple hours. 4g-M's/Sensation-X's. I don't know the tension.
    1st off, with the 105, I couldn't keep the ball in the court so I went to the 99. I only had a couple hours so I was rather impatient. Deff added considerable more spin but it felt like it lacked in the control department. I noticed a deeper, heavier ball. Approach shots dropped in really well and volley's seemed pretty crisp.
    After a while I really started to "hit away" and was quite surprised. I purposely tried to over hit and balls dropped in. I really loved the ball that came off my 1H backhand.
    I'm a 51y/o 3.5 player and thinking of replacing my Blade Team (I broke one), and I'd like to use a stick for a few years. My personal conclusion: nice frame, felt good, but not sure it would be a "main stay".
    The one thing I absolutely hate about it: the paint job. It seriously reminds me of something you'd see on the shelf at Wal-Mart
     
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    personally I think the paint job of the 99s is a huge improvement over the Steam 100.
     
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    I'd have to agree with this.
    I don't wanna commit sacrilege here but, does anyone feel the 99s is a "fad frame"? Is this frame thought to be a true "players" racquet?
     
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    That's not much of an achievement, and I say this as a Steam 100 owner.
     
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    From the reviews so far it seems that it will not be a "players" frame as 4.5+ guys have not liked it thus far. However, it has been liked greatly by 3.5-4.0 players so I think it is more of a tweener racquet. Very similar audience for purchase as the folks who gobbled up the Juice 100 in mass amount last year. I see that Juice all over the place, mostly women 3.5-4.0, and senior 3.5-4.0 men as well.

    I actually like the paint job of the new Steam line, glad they have removed the yellow this year......I think the new Steam line is a far far better paint job then the entire Juice line, even though that is also not saying much.
     
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    Gotcha....I guess at 51 with an NTRP 3.5 rating, that'd put me right in the pocket :shock:......dunno tho....I'm gonna give the Blade 98 16x19 a serious look.
     
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    So. A TW listed 333 swingweight, seems quite a bit different from Drak et al who have tried the frame - mid-320s is where I like to be (even tho my BLX Blade 98 kills that); it seems lately, that swingweights either too low or too high, with little falling in between. Thoughts?

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-STM99S.html
     
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    Even more surprising to me is the 105s:

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_Steam_105_S/descpageRCWILSON-ST105S.html

    I cannot believe that the SW of that one is 332. It does explain why both racquets are so solid on volleys even though the string pattern is so open. Cannot wait to get 1 of each in about 4 weeks!
     
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    Wow..neither of the S racquets I demoed was in the 330s. I know that for a fact.
     
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    the 99s felt around 325 sw to me. Definitely not 330s.

    I really liked that I could play it stock without adding any lead.
     
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    I think Drak measured the swing weight of his 99S at 326? too lazy to go back and look. Mine feels like its around mid 320s but I haven't measured it, just a guess.
     
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    Ok, I just checked Drak's post and his was 328 SW with gut mains and poly crosses.
     
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    i think this typical wilson QC
     
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    Funny thing is my 99S came in at 304g unstrung. Exactly what the specs state. Didn't check the balance though.
     
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    Mine was 330 g with over grip and dampener
     
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    I think ours are supposed to ship Jan. 15th. The green/yellow color not available until March though.
     
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    Edit post: Disregard, I was hoping for an alternative pj for the Steam.
     
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    Wow, you really got me excited to see an alternate PJ for my second racquet, fugured I might buy 1 then wait for the second......but I guess not :(
     
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    The 17g gut didn't last long, but played amazing. I'm currently testing different string set ups and will post findings soon.

    Thanks for review. I'll link your review on front page of thread.

    quite a few 5.0+ players in my area have tested it and love it. One thing they all do say is they wish it was a tad heavier.

    Surprisingly, both of the frames I have demoed are spot on to what Wilson states the specs are.
     
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    Hey Drak

    Its great your feed back for 5.0 players. Upping the weight is easy so thats great too.

    A couple have mentioned the grip size runs large on the new steams. is that your experience ?
     
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    so Drakulie is this a frame that will play well at low tensions? if you like a gut hybrid at 45lbs I would think Poly string at 40-45 lbs would also play well. And with less crosses doesn't 45lbs actually equate to at least 5lbs of less effective tension? - thoughts please.



    I noticed they make both a Babolat and Klip GUT in a 1.35 gauge 15L, I would think this might be the ticket in this frame for those who like a gut mains hybrid with a Poly Cross.
     
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    I measured it with a tape measure and the 3/8 Steam with overgrip measured exactly 4 5/8" around 2" from the butt. That's exactly the same as 90% of my other 4 1/2 racquets.
     
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    Jack so simply put what are you saying
     
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    He is saying the grip is a size bigger.
     
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    exactly. I was saying the Steam 3/8 measures exactly the same as most other 1/2 racquets.
     
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    So they've ruined the sizing with the new amplifeel technology?
     
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    The amplifeel has nothing to do with the size. It is strips of material recessed into the grip. It doesn't cause it to be bigger.
     
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    "ruined"???

    just buy 1 size down from what you usually would and move on.
    just like some shoes that run a size too small or large...you make the
    adjustment and that's it.
     
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    Wow. I normally go grip 2 with overgrip on top so will be buying grip 1 ?
     
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    New rackets usually have a bit thicker grips because the grip material has not yet compacted from use.
     
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    that is true, but mine was a demo that had been used already for over 1 month.
     
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    Its none of these things.

    It is the fact that they changed the hybrid grip with a new grip. The new grip sucks IMO. What I would do is buy a size down or just use the pro hybrid grip instead. It is a tough call since the pro hybrid most likely weighs more and will rebalance the stick a little.
     
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    Or leather grip ? Yes it makes it more headlight but will that lessen the thickness
     
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    I'm really concerned about this 333 SW. That really puts this outside the range of what I am looking for.
     
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    Sorry, it was a continuation of a comment about how hard Wilson was also pushing the shoe during the Steam special invitation hitting sessions.
     
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    Swing weight in the 330's really seems to contradict most of the stats.
     
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    Looking forward to an update
     
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    All I want for Christmas is two of these bad boys. And maybe a new bag:)
     
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    sorry I haven't posted in a while. Been busy with family during holidays. Will post an update soon.



    anyone else have some updates?? would love to read some more experiences.
     
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    After hitting with it again, IMPO I think it will be a "fad frame". It does produce a bit more spin but ultimately, not a ton more.
    I found it severely lacking in control. (for me) I also found it to have uncontrollable power. I just couldn't seem to back off enough.
    Again, peeps.....this is only my opinion.
     
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    Just wondering if you've had a chance to play with the regular Steam 99(not S). If so, would appreciate if you or others could post their impressions. Thanks
     
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    The TW review is here in a couple of days however from the TW
    Description so far the racquet is suited to 4.0 and above
     
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    Post of the year hands down.
     
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    I actually thought this was supposed to attract more people less than 4.0
     
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    Well see what the TW review says especially Andy as he hits his strokes like a player as well as Siobhan
     
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    Drakulie, no demos here. I will just buy one and demo it and would appreciate your take on my plan.

    I have been playing with a 2010 BLX Pro Open version for the past 2.5 years. I now have four frames that weigh from between 335-338 grams. 299 grams is the stock unstrung weight, 15 grams of string, either gamma supreme or wilson pro overgrip, plus 16 grams of weight in the handle courtesy of 1/2 gamma grip build up sleeve and lead.

    Been using Weiss Cannon Black5Edge 55 lbs / 16 g X-one bi-phase at 57 lbs for the last two years. the X-One last about 12 hours max. I string my own frames so labor is free.

    My concern:

    I have a natural flat forehand that I like to punish short balls. (Inside out ad to ad , down the middle, or xc deuce to deuce).

    I can hit heavy topspin and will mix flat and heavy topspin in singles, but in doubles, I flatten out that forehand and keep the balls low and fast. No sense floating a loopy topspin shot near a poacher. At 3.5 with my regular partner, we lost two matches last year in doubles, out of 50+ matches played with him. One loss was to a 3.5S guy who is still unbeaten at 3.5 and 4.0. We won three 3.5 Tournaments and a 7.5 Combo Tournament and lost in the finals of another Level 2 tournament in a TB. Went to state on three different non senior teams (7.0 Mixed, 7.5 Combo and Singles), unbeaten at 3.5 singles last year, beating two B rated players in USTA matches (both of them bumped to 4.0). That gives you am idea of my level of play.

    The Steam 99S has similar specs to the Pro Open, but I will had weight in the same spots making it more headlight.

    a demo for me isn't going to be a weekend, but a month to month and half process.

    My plan:

    1) add weight to the 99S
    2) use current string set up for a week 10-15 hours to get use to the frame ( I don't want to demo new strings and a new frame simultaneously)
    3) cut out strings and switch to Yonex Poly Pro Tour 125 / X-One for another week (I have been a hybrid guy since 2009)

    4) week 4 - go all poly to get the full benefit of the 16x15 pattern

    I would love the added benefit of more spin for so singles, without giving up the ability to rip those flat forehands.

    I have tried Yonex poly Pro Tour and Hurricane Feel and would like to sty with soft co-poly due to TE issues in the past.

    Love to read your thoughts. I will certainly take your suggestions, I will be picking up a 4 1/4 steam 99s on Jan 18 when I get back from my trip that starts on Jan 15 ;)

    Thanks much,
     

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