Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)

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  1. Tennusdude

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    There is a tool called Tennis Spin Maker, it looks like a pliers. You use it on the strings to create a surface which will create more spin. They claim that the textured surface of strings wears off in a few hours, whereas the texture imparted by this tool does not wear off as quickly. Anyone hear about this or try it?
     
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    Never heard of this. It sounds like something that crimps the string? It would seem like it would make it much more likely to break early.
     
  4. thecrusher956

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    For people who have tried the steam, which version would be good for 5.0-5.5 player who rips balls flat but adds spin on most shots?
     
  5. srvnvly

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    Based on Chris's comments, I would say the 99: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=449436

    'The response is not quite as lively and the ball leaves the strings at a slightly lower trajectory. The feel of the Spin Effect string pattern also enlarges the feel of the sweetspot considerably. Due to those differences, the regular 99 feels much firmer and crisper to me. It offers me more control on volleys and drop shots etc, but lacks the power and spin of the S version.

    Chris, TW'
     
  6. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Kaiser - Yeah cool, no problemo. The info I provided is old news by a couple of years now. And yet, questions still roll in here about how to increase ball to string friction, ie ball bite, with the regularity of waves crashing into the beach. I don't think my post will change the pattern of the tides. I added two photos this morning having observed what a long read it was. I think those photos summarize just as well. - Jack
     
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  7. KFwinds

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    Hey there, C-Jack! Since I haven't run into you since the playtest and Lance hasn't hooked me up with your info yet...

    I decided to go the Blade route instead of the 99s. If I have some extra dough this spring I might pick one up off the 'bay for fun, but I'm really digging the precision of the Blade. Still could not help thinking about how nice your Donnay hit, and ended up ordering a Pro One 18x20 to compare to my Blade. Loved your racquet - it was actually my favorite over all the new Wilsons (although this may have been in part because of the stiff strings in the demos).

    Cheers! -

    Kevin


    I apologize for the interruption - you may all resume your spinny Steam chat...
     
  8. ChicagoJack

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    Oh cool! Hey there Kevin, :) Apparently You have got my Donnay stuck in your mind, and I've been wondering if I hit so well with the 99s just because you kept sending back such clean balls for me to hit. Just shoot me an email, ChicagoJack.Tennis at comcast dot net. Would love to hit with you again and can both figure it all out, ha ha. My apologies as well for the slight thread derail. - Jack
     
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  9. racertempo

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    The Spin Maker thing mentioned a few posts ago is total crap, it ignores the fact that poly string loses tension quickly. It states that the tool will allow you to play with your poly for 40+ hours and even longer.....but who wants to keep a poly in that long?
     
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  10. skuludo

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    Have you actually tried it?

    There are two positive reviews on amazon.
     
  11. racertempo

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    No i have not tried it and never would. Just logically, why would you want to keep a poly string in your racquet for 40+ hours? Tension is gone and the string becomes garbage, which is why Poly players restring far more frequently then those who play multi. One of their biggest selling points is increasing the lifespan of the string :confused: Just does not make sense.

    And Amazon reviews, really? If they only have 2 positive reviews what is to say they are not from people who work for the company? That kind of thing happens all of the time.....so until someone posts on here or another place that an independent review was positive I think 2 amazon reviews are negligible.
     
  12. goober

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    Both reviews are by people that have exactly ONE review. I ignore reviews like this since they are usually associated with people who are related to the company in some way. They are also charging $70 for something that looks like a pair of pliers.
     
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    I could use a pair of pliers that I use for stringing and do the same thing.
     
  14. Mongolmike

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    Anyone hear any updates when the Steam 99s and 105s will be available thru TW?
     
  15. racertempo

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    TW told me on the phone a little while ago that they expect the Steam 96, Steam 99s and 105s in on January 17th. She said it is usually a couple of days before they are strung and shipped out from there, so should be January 20-22 before they are in our hands as our own and not a demo
     
  16. D-money

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    Apparently there's going to be a demo to win type of incentive to demo these and other rackets that Wilson is putting on through TW. The grand prize is a trip to hit with a pro. Hopefully there's some other cool prizes too. As if there wasn't enough incentive to demo these you may also be able to win something. I think they're going for the crack dealer business model "first taste is free" mixed with Lays "betcha can't have just one"
     
  17. Mongolmike

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    Thank you.

    I've already demo'd the 105 twice...I like it alot and can't wait to start experimenting with different strings and different tensions. I'm gonna get one through my club because that is where I demo'd, and I'll order a second through TW... wonder if they offer pre-order and I order one unstrung (I string my own) if that will speed up the process any?
     
  18. souledge

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    Has anyone ever strung a 99S with Premium Gut / MSV Co-Focus hybrid? How did it play and at what tension?
     
  19. sundaypunch

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    I'm curious about this as well. My guess is that the gut wouldn't last long in such an open pattern.
     
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    I've strung it with different gut/poly hybrids at different tensions. Haven't tried the premiumgut/msv hybrid you referred to, but am logging anywhere from 5-9 hours of *drilling* with my setups. I typically averaged about 8 hours in my other frames.

    gut: vs team, vs touch, vs tonic, wilson gut 16 and 17.
    poly: 4g, black magic 17, alu power, arenaline
     
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  21. souledge

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    Mostly normal tensions (High 40's, low 50's)? or low tensions (~30's)?
     
  22. Federerkblade

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    Drak whats your favoured combination and tension
     
  23. racertempo

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    The new steam line is on the front page of the website and available for preorder :) :)
     
  24. JackB1

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    anyone try the Steam 99s with a one handed backhand and a softer string? Is this racquet a bad match for anyone who hits a one hander?
     
  25. D-money

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    I noticed in some earlier posts that people were commenting on the grip feeling larger than they expected. Is that pretty unanimous or are people noticing the grip is true to size? are some people split?
     
  26. YesTennis

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    I'd also be interested as someone who hits a one handed bh. Jack, did you try the regular 99?
     
  27. racertempo

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    I hit a one hander and demod the 99s and the 105s and did not notice any less control then I have on my current Yonex frames. I mainly hit a harder-driving slice backhand and not a topspin backhand though, for what it is worth. The slice with these S frames was unreal, and control was just fine.
     
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    Question, I hate 4g and it seems like the textured poly is not recommended for this frame, what do you guys think would be the best poly/co-poly to use with gut mains ?
     
  29. Vertiz

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    can only hope they come out with some badass steam line tennis bags
     
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    Here is a thread from the Strings section about 4G: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=448697&page=2

    Jo11yroger posted this in a reply (post #37): http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Paci...IC-PXF16L.html

    Feels great, pockets great, volleys great.

    That is your best bet as far as I am concerned.


    If I go with this racquet, I am still going to go for a multi like Sensation 17, Head FXP 17, or maybe even my current X1B 17; not sure though, as the Pacific Power Line 17, a co-poly, looks intriguing.
     
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    Hi atatu,

    Yeah 4G is one of the stiffest Polys on the market. Not my cup of tea either. Just about any Gut/Poly is going to be pretty awesome and very spin friendly, but having said that, there's some noticeable differences among the many combos that I've tried. Here's Just a few quick reccos fer ya.

    1. SPIN: MSV Co-Focus 17L : Almost clownish amounts of spin, stays playable a very long time. Inexpensive.

    2. CONTROL: WC Scorpion : Control oriented, a bit less "wild" feeling than Co-Focus, very predictable response.

    3. COMFORT: Polyfibre HiTec 18: Pretty comfortable for poly, Excellent feel, especially good touch at net. As I'm about 90% recovered from a nagging case of TE, and I put a premium on arm safety, It's my current set up.

    Other TW forum Poly cross favorites include Genesis Black Magic and WC Mosquito Bite.

    -Jack
     
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  34. NetNinja68

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    TW review scores on these racquets are of course low compared to the new APD...So incredibly typical. Even the ad on the front page is tiny for such a highly anticipated stick.
     
  35. Tennusdude

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    When are you going to purchase one?
     
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    try this
    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/contours.cgi?racquetA=STM99S|99|Wilson|Steam:99S|RCWILSON

    yep 325 sounds much more reasonable

    If the swingweight of 333 quoted on the specifications tab is more accurate then I think that is more in the Blade territory... and confusing :?
     
  38. racertempo

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    yeah, rating is horribly low actually, but the ad for the new steam is the exact size as the APD ad right next to it.
     
  39. pshulam

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    >80+ is Low???????
     
  40. goeblack

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    Perhaps TW is reluctant to send the ratings through the roof. Maybe guarding against those who will cry foul if they do not like this racket. Those who would say they jacked the ratings to sell rackets. Of course there will be those who are looking for something that no racket can do for them. They will be crestfallen regardless. Then too, there will be really good players who may not care for the extra spin because of the extended hang time. As for me I have high hopes but there will be no sour grapes if it is not all that.
     
  41. racertempo

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    The 2 frames I use frequently are rated an 85.......the 82 if not totally horrible for the 99s. I was more referring to the 105s rating of a 77! Still, even the 82 is not great when you consider that one of the scores was a 98 for topspin. That means the rest were lower then a 'typical 82" if that makes sense.
     
  42. pshulam

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    Ratings are not that relevant to me. The GAMMA RZR 98T has a low rating from TW, but I still like playing with it (the black prototype).
     
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    Not low in general but low when compared to the APD. Why would any young, impressionable player ever seriously consider another brand of racquet with so much inflated hype around the APD racquet???
     
  44. NetNinja68

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    Of course...It doesn't sell very well.
     
  45. onehandbh

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    If the snap-back of the strings contributes to spin, then why
    does Fed use string savers to prevent string movement?

    He also changes racquets (to ones with fresh string jobs) fairly
    frequently in a match.

     
  46. racertempo

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    Because Fed does not need additional spin help from the string like 3.5 and 4.0 players where this frame will be sold in masses. Fed creates spin with form, like all pros. He could create spin with a a solid paddle, while the rest of us club players could your some help. The technology and idea is not for the pros, that is clearly not the intention from Wilson here.
     
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    People keep implying this, but can we also consider that if the pro did use this, it would change his game immensly to the point that his shots would be unreturnable?
     
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    I don't agree and I think most on here would not agree. The game is much much more then just spin. We are talking 10-15% more spin.....that would still put 99% of players RPM number below Rafa's RPM numbers. And players have learned to deal with his shots.....not easily but it is his weapon. 10% would still not put pros in the Rafa ballpark with spin RPM. Why would Djok want to add more spin from a string pattern? When he wants to spin a ball under the right situation he does so with his form. I would be quite a bit of money that not a single pro these day would even consider playing a 16x15 pattern, heck, very few play 16x18.
     
  49. atatu

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    Well, I had some $$ in paypal, so I decided to just go ahead and pre-order the Steam 99S (unstrung) and I just got an email from TW saying that my frame is going to be shipped. I figure if I hate it I can sell it to one of you guys !
     
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    I'm looking into ordering one of these too but I'm a little hesitant because I play really well with my aero pro drives. I'm always looking to improve my game but I'm not sure if this racquet, with the string pattern will end up being a game changer or not. I'm curious to know how this racquet will perform with the super open string pattern, if I can not only hit with massive topspin but also control my shots; for instance with the apdc, I can hit bone crushing groundstrokes for winners and killer serves on any given day. If I consider switching to the 99S , I need to perform at a higher level than my current racquet.
     
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