Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)

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  1. Rabbit

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    Please do let us know how the gut setup holds up as that could be sweet!
     
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    I will, I also got some 15L tonic 1.35 I will try after the current setup breaks.BTW I was wrong on the Poly, it's Tech Black code in a 15L, not Black widow.
     
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    Great review Rabbit. I agree with you on all accounts. The only downside like you said is the string durability. I had the same issue with BB Alu Power. After about an hour of hitting and playing points it broke on me. I wish I could have seen the look on my face because it was both disbelief and concern at the same time. I have used 4G 16g and it lasted about 3-4 hours the first go around of mostly hitting. The second go around I got a little extra out of the strings. Going to hit with Black Code 15L tonight and will see how that goes.

    I definitely think a thicker, maybe cheaper, poly is in order for this racquet if you play at a somewhat high level. I don't think tension maintenance will be as important with this racquet because of the durability issues. They just won't last as long. You still want to make sure you're getting that snap back however. Will be interesting to see what people settle in with string wise.
     
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    I have one of mine strung with 15L Black Code and will hit with it tonight and give some feedback.
     
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    Is anyone using vibration dampners with this racquet?
     
  6. Ross K

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    Exciting to see more than a few of us definitely catching the bug now or whatever. Specially interesting re the serve aspect as I haven't even served properly with mine yet. Noted too the soft, cheap, thick poly observation, plus the touch/C10 comment (still, even during these racketaholic wilderness years, the C10 does have a certain habit of being taken out of my bag every now and then lol). Very nice review, Rabbit.

    QFT couch... I'm taking copious notes of the reports starting to arrive back. Lots of curiosity here certainly re the likes of 4G, 4GS, gut/poly, TB, Poly Pro Tour, and a host of other options. I'm awaiting the disappearance of the snowy weather that has struck the UK lately, a bit of freeing up of time too, but hope to be checking out the 4G soonish.
     
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    Yes, I couldn't resist and bought a set of Klip 15 gauge when TW carried it. I think it may be an excellent candidate in this frame.

    Thanks, always appreciated. Yeah, the 5.0 who broke the set of ALU said "you know, I just don't like stringing that much". He wasn't overjoyed that the strings broke that soon. Who knows, there may be a wave of them 2nd hand still like new for sale from the guys who eat strings.

    Yes, I did with mine. It made a difference in the feel, from metal-ish to wood-ish.

    Roger that!


    I do think that while poly is an excellent choice in this frame, there are other strings which will work as well. I'm looking forward to a gut/poly combination. Either that or a thin poly/multi cross. I've always said I love stringing...
     
  8. MesQueUnClub

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    Any suggestion on adding weight to the racquet ? I would definitely want to add some weight and bring the static weight up to 12 oz as well as make it a bit more HL.
     
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    Just need a little lead tape under the grip. The handle is foam filled so you can't add it under the buttcap.
     
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    I gave in and ordered one. Should have it by wednesday. Plan to string it with TB 18g at 50/46 which is what I play with these days.
     
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    18g? for one of the most open rackets ever?

    Racket that pops 16g strings in a few hours?
     
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    AAAAHHHH. I want one so bad. But everybody's all like "you need to stick with this racquet, blah blah blah blah."
     
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    Just got a 99S demo. Still has the clear plastic on the grip :).
     
  14. MesQueUnClub

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    It just so happens that I have 2 reels of tb and nothing else. Need to order strings as well, I guess. First let me see how this goes. I am in no hurry.
     
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    not such a bad thing to try what you know as a point of reference either
     
  16. tlm

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    Just got back from my first hit with a full poly job, big improvement. I put a full job of 16 gauge poly at 64 lbs in and it was way better than the junk TNT that came in it.

    I would like to try it with the new 15 g. 4G, now that could really work well. This racket can pull off some crazy shots, my forehand which I use a lot of top spin anyway was popping up big time. And my opponent came in a lot and my cross court passes were excellent.

    The serve is very solid with good bite off the court, and pretty easy to control. My opponent has a big serve and I was pretty impressed with the way I was able to control the returns.

    I slice a lot on the backhand side and I hit some really nasty biting slices. My opponent is better than me and he dictates play the majority of the time, but I was still able to play good defense and my lobs were landing in consistently.

    That is pretty good considering that this racket is quite a bit more powerful than I am used to and I will still knock some more of the power out of it with a different string job.

    For players that are more used to rackets with some power in them this racket will fit them nicely. The other thing I noticed is that it seems really comfy, I felt no shock of any kind. Plus it swings very easily and could easily have some weight added to it.

    I will have to give this racket some more time with some different string jobs and see what happens.
     
  17. Anton

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    There we go, that's what I'm talking about.
     
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    This racket sucks in doubles. I saw this one guy play with this in doubles and he was missing 80 % of the shots.
     
  19. sureshs

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    How many does he usually miss?
     
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    Wow, wouldn't expect anything less than a stellar post from you. Keep up the good work!!
     
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    Hit a few balls with the 15L Black Code tonight and definitely liked the feel of it in this racquet but didn't seem to offer the spin and bite of the 4G. Only hit a few balls in the warm up and then switched back to the 4G for the match. Just felt more comfortable with the 4G playing a singles match since that's what I've been playing in this racquet. Will have to give the Black Code some more time in a few days. Will report back. :)
     
  22. tlm

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    Ya a huge improvement in the way this racket plays.
     
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    I strung up 16 gauge poly at 64lbs. in it and felt no vibration, it seemed very comfy to me.
     
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    We knew you would come around from the first impression with the demo strings. I have given up on demo's as the crappy strings make it almost useless.

    My daughter has taken over my 99s. She used it in a couple of USTA matches this weekend without any previous match time on it. Hit it great in the first match and came very close to beating a player she had no business beating (lost the 3rd set 10 pt. tiebreak). In her next match she got a bit tentative with it and hit a lot of balls long. It will take some time to figure out if it is a good fit for her or me.

    I definitely think that you have to commit and take a rip at your shots with this or everything will fly on you. That is true of most any racquet but I think the super open pattern exaggerates this.
     
  25. tlm

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    Ya your right, a lot different racket with the right strings.
     
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    That guy probably sucked at doubles? :confused:
     
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    Wow,I am sure it was the racquets fault 100% for the misses 80% of the time. I play mostly doubles and use the 105s and 99s and love them both.......even for doubles :-?
     
  28. Rabbit

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    I nominate this for post of the year......2013
     
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    I only got to hit with the 99S for about an hour, but I found that it was better when I was hitting with my normal stroke than trying to brush up on it too much. Like others have said I can definitely hear the strings snap back. I liked the amount of action I was getting on my slice and kick serves. I'm dying to get out and log more hours on this racquet.
     
  30. MesQueUnClub

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    Has any one modified their 99S yet ? Anything that you tried and worked or didn't feel right?
     
  31. Nostradamus

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    Yes, he does suck in doubles
     
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    So you admit that the guy sucks at doubles, but your original post stated that the "frame sucks for doubles" :confused:
     
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    Dude don't get in an exchange with That one it is productive for no one.
     
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    I disagree. Let them each provide examples of why they are right. This is 'merica
     
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    I've noticed that there is a point of diminishing returns with this racket if strung under the recommended tensions it seems like there's not nearly as much "snap" to the strings and they are just left out of place and any benefit of the string bed is nullified. Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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    What kind of strings and how long have they been in the frame?
     
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    Fair enough. I just notice a trend of strange posts from that one in particular so I thought I'd save him/her the trouble of taking them too seriously.
     
  38. D-money

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    Babolat Hurricane tour 1.30 and this set has been in the frame for maybe a week. So about 6-8 hours of hitting
     
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    Nostradamus is the 2nd re incarnation of a banned poster, whom will go un named. he is pretty well known for making intentionally dumb comments just for grins and giggles, (which on occasion are a bit funny, but also gum up the threads) and then feeds off the attention it provides. That is classic trollish behaviour and most, (like me) allready have him on the ingnore list. Unfortunately, I still am privy to the conversations when ever people quote him . Just an FYI. Carry on gents.
     
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    stanford grad?
     
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    I actually see a ton of people playing with this in my ex-academy. I tried it a bit and all i can say is SPIN. The right technique and you have yourself a weapon. However, for flat hitter or people who just dont have that modern topspin tennis game. It wont help. For everyone else. It will mean all the difference in the world!
     
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    Not easy to correct even obvious spelling errors, or simplify sentence structure with an iphone while being jostled on a commuter train. Sorry for the typos.
     
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    Lol. Not you! 'twas a clue to the identity of our mystery man
     
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    ^^^^
    Doh! Ha ha, that's me being dense. I don't know about the Stanford connection, but Power Player and I are pretty convinced that our mystery man is/was FedAce, who also happens to hail from San Diego. Nostradamus was hanging in the 2012 Babolat PD club thread for quite a while, and that developed as the group consensus identity guess in that clubhouse. The dead give away is that the comments are never really mean, or inflammatory, just kind of light hearted, slightly funny, and over the top silly. That's so FedAce for sure.
     
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    Yes, one in the same. FedAce, despite his struggles with grammar, math, and general logic swore up and down that he was a Stanford graduate.
     
  47. BoingTennis

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    Played with my 99s the first time last night. Had it strung with RPM Team 17 @50lbs(strung on a Baiardo).

    My usual setup is PB10Mid strung with BHB7 17G@48lbs.

    Positive Findings:
    -Very noticeable spin addition compared to the PB10Mid. Hitting partner had to adjust to my shots (mishits a couple of times) due to the extra spin.

    -Very easy stick to volley, tons of pop and huge sweetspot compared to the PB10Mid. I just love volleying with this racket!

    -Easy stick to serve with. My first serve percentage went considerably higher. Maybe I do need a lighter racket??:twisted:

    -Comfortable! Probably because of the combination of soft poly, low tension, and the string pattern. I didn't have any problem related to the stiffness of the frame or the stringbed.

    Negative Findings:
    -Less plow than then PB10Mid. This is too be expected since its almost 30g lighter. Once my hitting partner had adjusted to the extra spin, he didn't have any trouble crushing the ball back.

    -Too much power. I had many balls sailing long towards the end of the hitting session. I am not to blame the frame at this point, I think it was more of the string (too low tension) and tension lost during the hitting session (3 hrs).
    At the end of the 3 hr session, the mains were all over the place, badly notched. Measured DT with ERT, came out at 26DT which is rather low.

    Will try with BHB7 17 @55 lbs next session and update you guys.
     
  48. doctor dennis

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    Hi

    can anyone who has got or used this racket make a comparison with th the APD GT?

    I got one coming next week and I can't wait.
     
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    Have m robinsons got it then
     
  50. Ross K

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    Can't recall if it's the GT version but drakulie does compare 99s with APD (and other racs) at the very start of this thread. Actually I think there's quite a lot of discussion contrasting with APD in earlier portion of this thread.

    Compared to my APD Originals the 99s is more solid and is generally better made, is better all around (ie touch, control, more all court suited, more going on serve-wise), and, yup, the topspin is bigger when you let rip from the backcourt.
     

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