Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)

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  1. bertrevert

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    anyone any elbow issues?

    I had a fairly sore inner elbow after a first two-hour hit. Very much the feel of a poly-induced twinge top of the forearm inside of the elbow. I put it down to niggles that go with slight differences of static and swingweight, oh and an older elbow! Not a big fan of poly yet this racq virtually dictates its use...
     
  2. Rabbit

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    I don't know if you've hit with it, but as a former C10'er, the Steam 99S plays way softer than its RDC. No arm issues for me.
     
  3. drakulie

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    The gut I'm alluding to is VS Tonic 15L gauge "longevity". Durability will be less though, if stringing at 60 lbs. At 45 lbs, I'm getting 6-8 hours.

    Agree, definitely plays nothing likes it RDC reading. Feels much softer, and as I have said in other posts, I would say fairly comfortable. I haven't heard of anyone at our shop demoing the frame report arm pain, or say it felt uncomfortable as it relates to stiffness. For the most part, they report the string bed feeling soft/flexy.
     
  4. SerenaSlam01

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    I thought during my playtest, it was VERY comfortable. Very soft and I felt a lot of ball pocketing except for when I was really brushing up the back of the ball heavily.

    Anyone feel some instability when hitting a forehand? And does the balance feel weird to anyone else? I don't know how to fix it!
     
  5. drakulie

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    I personally think the frame is very stable, and surprisingly so on volleys. It is solid.

    How does the balance feel "weird"?? Could you elaborate? Head-heavy? head-light?

    If it's head heavy,,,, add lead to the grip. If head light, to the head.
     
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    I bought a Steam 99S used. When I opened up the butt cap I see some gooey/jelly like material. Just wondering if that's supposed to be there or was that added in by the previous owner?
     
  7. drakulie

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    ^^It's supposed to be there. Wilson decided to add some silcone inside the handle in order to possibly do two things (add weight, dampen the feel).

    Many frames have silicone inside the handle.
     
  8. Rabbit

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    I played last night with a poly I thought was worthless before, Volkl V-Rex 16L. I strung it up 55/52. I was really impressed. We played 3 sets of dubs and while I started off really rusty, my play came around and I played pretty dadgum well. V-Rex, discontinued, is firm, but plays pretty good. I strung my 2nd frame at 52/50 in lockout mode.

    I have one other config to try, a gut/poly hybrid which I'll probably settle on.

    But,the frame continues to impress and is a ton of fun to play with. last night, the guys I was playing against said the "bottom fell out" of a bunch of balls they misjudged.
     
  9. Nostradamus

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    I think it really hurts you when have 4 guys all at net hitting quick exchange volleys
     
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    Why/how? I don't have any problems with maneuverability with this frame. I find it quick around net and solid on volleys
     
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    question is can you reflex shots coming at you at 90mph when a guy has a smash and hitting it right at you ? Manuverable frame can reflex this.
     
  12. Rabbit

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    Let me put it this way: i can reflex a 90 mph shot coming right at me with this frame as well as any other frame.

    The frame is not sluggish in the least around the net.
     
  13. DaveInBradenton

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    A 90mph smash coming right at me?

    MY REFLEX WOULD BE TO DUCK!

    I would return the favor later..........

    Dave
     
  14. Rabbit

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    Ergo my comment ;)
     
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    for this player - much easier to half volley hard struck balls landing at baseline with low powered racquet and return back deep. gets more difficult returning ball in the court when power level of racquet increases.

    if u have to duck then ball is probably out... lol
     
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    Yes I agree, probably will fly long. but just in case it doesn't, I will just call it out for gunning it at me. Pay back is sweet.:)
     
  17. drakulie

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    Great stuff. I'm also impressed with the frame, as are some of the folks I've played with. They are amazed at how much more spin is coming off the frame.

    As Rabbitt alread commented, the frame is maneuverable, and very solid on volleys. (no twisting)
     
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    I've bought völkl cyclone 17 for the mains and signum firestorm for the crosses.
    Curious as how it will play.
     
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    How was it?
     
  20. doctor dennis

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    Really good to be honest. If it wasn't so pricey it would have given me a bit more of a headache choosing between that and focus hex.
    It bit the ball really well and I had very good touch which I wasn't expecting.
    You should definitely try it.
     
  21. Rabbit

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    You know, I dare say that volleys are a high point with this frame, well that and serving. I've not experienced a more solid feeling racquet on the volley ever. And that's with a full bed of poly. I simply cannot wait to hit a few volleys with gut in this frame.
     
  22. Nostradamus

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    how can a racket with SW of 333 be maneuverable when lightening quick exchange at net in advanced doubles.?
     
  23. fibonacci888

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    I have and love it. Tension loss could be better, but have little reference in the 99s. String gives great feel and feedback.

    Now full bed 4G in one, and volkl cyclone/ tecnifibre razorcode in the other.
     
  24. Ross K

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    Wow, high praise there indeed, Rabbit.
     
  25. Rabbit

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    for your consideration, a few racquets with swingweights of 333:

    • Wilson 6.1 95
    • Wilson Blade 98
    • Babolat Pure Storm
    • Head YouTek IG Extreme
    • Dunlop Biomimetic S 5.0 Lite

    Just for hits and giggles, what frame do you consider maneuverable?

    Yeah, I know, but I swear this racquet just feels like it's pocketing the ball at net and plows right through on volleys. I like the feel of this racquet on volleys with all poly better than most racquets with gut.
     
  26. doctor dennis

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    I've got 4g in my other frame but am yet to use it. Should be hitting with it some time this week.
     
  27. fibonacci888

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    Me too, coming monday.

    Also tested with the Wilson Endoro which was crap.

    offtopic, i feel for you on the ridiculous red card for Nani
     
  28. kaiser

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    Since when do you swing your racket in 'lightening quick exchange at net in advanced doubles'?
     
  29. doctor dennis

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    Still fuming about the decision.
     
  30. drakulie

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    keep us posted. Have fun.

    Yeah, one wouldn't expect it, but the frame (for what it is) is really a surprise on volleys. Great comfort, solid, maneuverable. Gut just gives it more feel, and a little more "punch".

    Because.

    Thank you.
     
  31. kaiser

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    My pleasure.
     
  32. fibonacci888

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    So the firestorm is not the cross. String broke twice on the third pull.

    Stringer puts in tecnifibre razorcode. I'll keep you posted.
     
  33. doctor dennis

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    Please do. Razor code is another string which caught my eye.

    The one problem I've experienced with this stick is the amount of string I've gone through.

    The plus side is I've tried a fair few new strings.

    After my experience with 4g I'll decide on a string. Focus hex is looking the most likely unless 4g really does blow me away.
     
  34. fibonacci888

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    So what's the favorite so far?

    I've got Solinco Tour Bite and Yonex poly pro arriving this week. So far i'm with the pacific Xcite
     
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    Negating cost its probably xcite. Its not 3 x better than focus hex but it costs three times as much. In my opinion its only a bit better. For that reason I am at the moment going with focus hex unless 4g really does blow me away.
     
  36. Nostradamus

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    You make no snese. Of course the SW matters when volleying. You do have to get the racket up and moving toward the strike zone, right ?
     
  37. Rabbit

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    Well then I guess it all boils down to reflexes....some people have 'em and apparently some don't!
     
  38. SerenaSlam01

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    So after a couple hours of more playing I found:

    There is definitely spin to be had with this racquet for sure.
    Backhand feels GREAT (2 hander) but my forehand is off. On my forehand, I really have to set up right and really step into the court to not shank the ball or launch it high.

    There's a lot of power with the 99S. A lot of my approach shots that would normally go in with any other racquet just flew long.

    Slice was horrible. It either when VERY long or into the net.
    Volleys you can't really do fancy underspin or touch shots at least for me. I really had to punch the volley or it was going into the net.

    Serves, it FELT GREAT. I don't think I missed a single serve with the 99S. Slice serve had a lot of bite.

    As for how the racquet feels in the hand, it is VERY comfortable. I used another racquet in between my play test and the grip on that racquet felt weird compared to the Wilson 99S.
     
  39. kaiser

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    Is that swinging?
     
  40. Rabbit

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    Looking at TW, XCite is $17.95 and MSV Hex is $7.90. Given that cost ratio (and that I got the right MSV), what say you as to price versus performance now?
     
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    Agree wholly. Those were the two huge surprises and best parts of the demo I had. Serves especially. Bombed them.
     
  42. drakulie

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    Nuff said.

    what strings and tension were you using.

    As for your testing of the frame, sounds like you are still in the "learning curve" process of using the frame. Keep it going, and you'll be rewarded.



    I got to play today. Strung with 4G, 15 gauge at 55 lbs. Although the frame had great spin, and control, the power felt down. I'll try and give it another go tomorrow, and report back. Then I'm off for a few weeks (stringing at the Sony Miami with P1).
     
  43. fibonacci888

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    So I too played with the 4G (59 lbs) yesterday. My findings were the same, the string is underpowered and has a strange feel to it. I had to force my swing and stroke to get a bit of defend depth. The sweetspot also seemed smaller.

    In my other frame i had Volkl cyclone in the mains (60 lbs) and TF razor code in the crosses. Also no good. The string would not snap back due to the cyclones shape and texture. Power was decent but lifetime and snapback were bad.

    Best so far:

    1. Pacific Xcite 1.25 at 59,5 lbs
    2. Wilson Enduro 1.30 at 59 lbs
    3. Volkl Cyclone 1.25 at 59 lbs and TF razorcode 1.25 at 56 lbs
    4. Luxillon 4G 1.25 at 56 lbs

    To do: Solinco Tour bite and Yonex poly tour
     
  44. doctor dennis

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    Lol. In the UK Xcite is 13-15 pounds and Focus Hex is 5 pound. That's quite a bit of difference seeing as Xcite doesn't wipe the floor the Focus Hex. Price vs performance its not massively better. If I thought it was way better I'd probably get some.
     
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    No, I meant from the ready position to volley position. SW does matter even in this short compact punch motion
     
  46. Rabbit

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    What swing weight do you consider conducive to good volleying in 90 mph encounters?
     
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    315-320 is perfection
     
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    Rabbit, do you think if I take off the Head guard, it would lower the SW to around 315 ? and does the headguard even come off without taking off the grommets too ?
     
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    I don't think SW as measured around an axis 10 cm from the but has any bearing on the movement from ready to volley position. This is typically achieved through a simple rotation of the shoulders, with minimal change in the position of the racket relative to hand and wrist. Basically, the swingweight for this movement would consist of the weight of the entire arm, racket and shoulders relative to the central axis of the torso.
     
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    I agree. I think STATIC weight is more of an issue with volleys, than swingweight.

    That being said....I found the 99s plenty quick around the net and very manueverable.
     

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