Wilson Hits Homerun with Wilson Steam 99S (mini review)

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  1. tistrapukcipeht

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    I just said this racquet is designed differently, well marketed and deceiving, the racquet is a cheap toy with awful feel, are we clear now??

    I can produce great topspin rebound with other racquets, but I can do more with other racquets than with this one. Limited racquet!
     
  2. LeeD

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    Wilson hit a HunterPence triple hit single with that racket.
     
  3. Ross K

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    I think we've all got your point now, tistra, lol. :) Each to their own, but I can't say I agree with your findings TBH.
     
  4. fibonacci888

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    If you had done your homework, you'd known that this racket requires a full poly for the spin effect to work.
     
  5. racertempo

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    I agree with fibonacci888, you clearly just don't get the point of the racquet. The Ezone XI Team is a very light weight frame that is garbage compared to the 99s, I know because I have played them both extensively. The Ezone XI100 was the frame I left to go to the 99s, because I play a full bed of poly all of the time, and the 99s is designed for that. The 99s is also the largest sweet spot I have found on a Wilson in years, and rivals the sweet spot of the Yonex.
     
  6. Rabbit

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    It all depends on the user. One of the guys I string for loves 16L V-Rex. He doesn't love that it lasts him 2 sets. I strung one up for him using Beast 15L and it last 7 sets which is closer to normal for him.

    I'm getting 6 - 8 sets out of 1.30 which is fine by me.

    Moral is, if you're having problems with durability, regardless of frame, go up in gauge.

    You know, it's really funny you say that, because I hit with a V-Core 100S and though it was a cheap toy.
     
  7. Rabbit

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    Yeah, I did a little math. It takes 30 feet of string for the 99S. Given a reel of 660 feet, that 22 string jobs out of a reel. A reel of 4G costs $245 which yields a cost of $11.13 per restringing which is significantly less than the $16.95 per set cost.

    While I'm still trying other strings, 4G is really nice and feels great.

    I also think dropping my tension to 47/44 had something to do with it. ;)

    I have left the Wilson grip on my frames, trying to wean myself off leather. Please do let me know how it goes.
     
  8. JackB1

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    same here Ross....sweet spot is not tiny...racquet is very stable...plow is very good for the weight. I also loved the paintjob. In the end, the 99s just didn't fit my semi-flat game, plus I really disliked having to use full poly that went dead so quickly due to the wide open pattern and all the string movement it produces.
     
  9. Buford T Justice

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    I mentioned this in another thread, but power cord by Golden set tennis claims to be similar to Luxilon 4g and its 77 dollars a reel. I have a reel of it and I think it plays great......definitely an the softer side. Of course, I have no way of knowing if it would test out in a lab similar to 4g or not.
     
  10. drakulie

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    I agree. My experience, as well as most people whom have tested my frame have experienced the opposite of him.

    Great stuff. Thanks for sharing the math with all of us. $11 a set is actually very good.

    Have you experienced loss of control with the dramatic drop in tension?
     
  11. Rabbit

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    You know, I haven't. I don't know if it's because I'm stringing loose to begin with and the difference wouldn't be as dramatic or what. I haven't missed a lick.
     
  12. Nostradamus

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    No Plow, unstable, and small sweet spot. I am a bit confused by this since this is kind of contrary to what players are saying in this thread. Which is correct ?
     
  13. Rabbit

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    Very intereseting
     
  14. Fuji

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    Golden Set makes great string, I've used some of their poly's before, and power chord is awesome. Definitely on the softer side, but it didn't aggravate my elbow at all which is nice. :)

    -Fuji
     
  15. rabidranger

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    Well, the strings in my 99s broke after about two hours of playing time. Had 4G in the mains and Prince Duraflex Synthetic in the crosses. Strung at 58lbs. Any recommendation on a more durable string set-up? I was told fully poly is the way to go with this racket.
     
  16. drakulie

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    You definitely need to go full poly with this frame if you want to get durability. I would also suggest dropping tension 4-5 lbs.

    Could you give us your experience with the frame? feel, power, spin, control, etc?

    Thanks!
     
  17. drakulie

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    Yeah, same here! :)

    Also, quick update,,,, finally was able to get out on the court.

    Love the feel in my hand now that I have swithced the grip to a leather one. If anything, it just *feels* more familiar to me, which results in being more comfortable for me.
     
  18. rabidranger

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    I'm getting a replacement set of 4G so I'll follow your recommendation. I'll try stringing at 53lbs. It felt great while it lasted. The bottom really drops out on the forehand-which is hilarious. I'll give a more detailed review after I it re-strung.
     
  19. drakulie

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    Cool. Look forward to your review.
     
  20. morandi

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    Anybody play around with tail weighting the 99S? Thoughts?
     
  21. Ross K

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    @ Fed K

    How's the Steam Room this week? Is that 4GS still going strong? How many hours now lol?:)
     
  22. Fed Kennedy

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    Ross I think I will cut it out, it passed the 10 hour mark. Still creating insane spin but deeply notched and doesn't feel as nice and soft on the arm.

    Still, played with the same stick for 2 weeks and had a blast, thats pretty good.

    In short, Steam + 4GS = good combo. I will restring and play with something else for a few days.
     
  23. nickarnold2000

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    Please keep us up to date with your play test of this string. It would be great if there was a cheaper alternative to 4G.
     
  24. Buford T Justice

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    I have been using it now for a bit with gut mains (not in a Steam, but a Dunlop Bio 300)....so I dont really have a full poly review to offer nthat is specific to a 99S. But, I can say that this string with gut mains is excellent. Its a smooth softer poly, so for me works great with the gut. As noted earlier, the manufacturer claims it is similar to Lux 4g (they post this on their website).

    I strung the gut at 55 and the poly at 60 (I did this assuming the poly would lose more tension than the gut) an have no real way to know to the degree this true. But, I can say for sure that I love this combo.

    For the price, I think this is a definite "give it a try" string.
     
  25. Boricua

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    Fed, di you think the 99a absorbs shock well? Could it aggravate my golfers elbow id I go with 4g. The 99s is one of the rackets that interest me along with the Exo Tour 3 and the Biomimwtic 500. I like to hit with alot of spin and hit loopy shots and drive the ball sometimes
     
  26. ollinger

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    ^^ Questions like "could it aggravate my golfers elbow" are obviously unanswerable. Of course it could! Or it might not. There is no such thing as a racquet or a string that insures against harm or damage reliably.
     
  27. LightHeaded

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    i bought the 16x18 Steam 99 (non-S version). Interestingly, the 2nd string and 2nd-to-last string line up perfectly with the first and last string on my microgel prestige pro. Strings 1 and 19 are pushed very close to the frame. Any dampener looks oddly low in the face. Seems like I could eliminate the top and bottom string, have the same forces to the frame as my prestige, but have a 16x16 pattern almost that of the 16x15 99s. What's wrong with that?
     
  28. rabidranger

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    I just ordered a few sets of the Power Cord from Golden Set. Seems like a great deal. Anxious to see how it plays.
     
  29. usta2050

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    Luxilon Alu Rough 16L or 4g?

    any ideas? what's better at 60lbs?

    Luxilon Alu Rough 16L or 4g?
     
  30. Ross K

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    That is impressive. I'll stop prevaricating and order some 4GS now.

    Think it's fair to say the feedback re this is polarising. Some speak of getting their elbows bugged. Whilst others, me among them, find the frame surprisingly really comfy and solid and resulted in no twinges pains etc whatsoever. There are of course a lot of softer poly options, though matching up one that will last is the issue there for many... Oh, and to muddy the waters a bit here, all relative obviously and many hold a different POV, but I actually found 4G fairly stiff TBH.
     
  31. Rabbit

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    It all depends on who you ask. I really like the 4G, but others feel as strongly about ALU smooth or rough.

    I agree. A friend of mine who switched from the Babolat APD to the 99S says his arm quit hurting after two weeks of playing with the 99S. His arm had gotten so bad with the APD that he had me string natural gut hybrids in it for a time. He went through it so quickly that he went back to all poly.
     
  32. usta2050

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    Thanks, I agree that 99s is softer than APD and even some of the Radicals.

    Thanks for the tip on 4g. I've been using cyberflash 17L at 68lbs. it's quite good for 2 to 3 sets before they break.
     
  33. Rabbit

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    I am stringing mine with 1.30 or 1.25 4G at 47/44. Trust me, if you back your tension down, you won't notice a big difference and you'll get better durability.
     
  34. Boricua

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    Fed, have you gone down in tension like Rabbit? I know you are stringing 4gs at 60 in your 99s
     
  35. usta2050

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    thanks, how about pro hurriane tour 17g?
     
  36. Rabbit

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    I think Drakulie has gone down in tension as well. Maybe he can chime in.

    You know, PHT is one string I never tried. Sorry.:(
     
  37. JackB1

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    Has anyone been able to use the 99s effectively without restringing at a minimum every 2 weeks? That is my biggest issue with it.
     
  38. tvizz

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    I have been stringing weekly. For me it's probably a two week break for 17g poly and a 3 week for 16g. I mean it takes me at most 15 minutes to string though so no big deal.
     
  39. drakulie

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    Yeah, the 4G 15 gauge, or black magic 15 gauge. Of course, this is also going to depend if you are playing everyday, and playing 6 hours a day. But for us average guys, these set ups will give you durability. Also, dropping tension into the low 50's or high 40's will also add durability.
     
  40. Rabbit

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    2nd what Drakulie said. I'm playing with 1.30 4G and now 1.25 4G and getting about 15/10 sets out of it.
     
  41. JackB1

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    yes, if you have an electric stringer. I have a drop weight so it takes me 45mins to an hour.
     
  42. JackB1

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    I play 3-4 times a week for 3 hours at a time.

    How does dropping initial tension improve durability?
     
  43. JackB1

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    15 sets is only 5-8 matches, which is around 2 weeks.
     
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    Lower tension results in less friction when the strings move back and forth between the main and crosses. This results in less force in the "sawing" effect of main on cross.
     
  45. usta2050

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    thanks, dakulie, how about 15L mains and 17L crosses? Same effect or ?
     
  46. Ross K

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    Re-entered the steam room yesterday for first time in a while and, well, as suspected, this frame works too good for me to discard. 4GS and Xcite has now been purchased. Look forward to pitting 99s against my Blades this springtime and properly finding out exactly which one truly suits me best.
     
  47. morandi

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    This frame gets better the more I play with it. I have not had any problems with string/tension compared to other frames. Although I have only used the 4g and 4gS. I just added some weight to the handle to bring it to about 7pts headlight, it got even better. I can just crush the ball now, and it brought out the racquets great qualities on serve.
     
  48. JackB1

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    But doesn't it also result in very low tension once the tension drops.
    My main issue with the 99s was how uncontrollable and unpredicatable the stringbed gets once the tension drops. I had no issue with string breakage whatsoever.
     
  49. The Dark Knight

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    I have never seen so many mixed reviews. The opinions are all over the place.

    I think the only thing one can do is try it. I cannot wait.
     
  50. usta2050

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    I agree, I noticed that at the rec level, 99s tires the opponents out quite a bit in set 1 and they get tired in set 2 and make more errors. LOL
     

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