Discussion in 'Racquets' started by drakulie, Oct 16, 2012.
^^ the arm friendly version is called the Prince ESP 100.
Wilson will have an 18x16 blade Sept 15. Prince has their 16x16 Tour 100 ESP and 16x16 Rebel 98 ESP as well as a 14x16 Warrior ESP, although there is rumors of a 16x16 Warrior as well, all to drop this fall.
Will be interested in hearing from 99s users/past users in how they think the 18x16 Blade compares with the Steam. In theory, from what I've read thus far, sounds like a must try for me.
I'm wondering if anyone can give me an opinion about a couple of things. For one, I'm trying to figure out if this racquet is a good fit for my game. I am someone who relies on heavy spin in order to keep shots in (I can supply my own pace but it's basically always way too much if I try to flatten it out) because even my rally shots are inconsistent without heavy spin. Normally, I can apply my own spin and have had even greater success with open string patterns at 16x19 or so, but I'm wondering if this racquet would leave me hitting sitters because I already put so much spin (people comment on how much spin I produce even with dense 18x20 racquets) without enough bite or if I would be fine since I can mostly generate my own power?
The other thing I wanted to ask was if anyone has used kevlar before on this racquet and how that turned out. Based on the comments on these boards, this super open string patterns eats strings like crazy and I'm already a notorious string breaker (more proof that I can generate my own spin) so string durability is a big issue for me. I'm wondering if kevlar would be too stiff given how stiff the frame already is or if I should be fine I string it at extremely low tensions.
1.) If you rely on spin, this is the frame for you.
2.) A little time with the frame and you'll be putting shots as deep as you ever were with anything else. And the won't be sitters either.
3.) Kevlar? rabbit not know.
4.) The frame does not play anywhere as stiff as its numbers. It really plays softer.
This is true. To me, the 99s has the feel of a flexible racquet with the big sweet spot of pure drive/aerodrive. I think this may have something to do with the beam thickness. To me, the beam thickness of the 99s looks way thinner than the Babolats.
What level are you just curious?
Rabbit is 4.5 as I recall
Tru dat playa.
i used the kevlar on the 105s at 65lbs and it's fine.
nblade 98 is a very very different racket from the 99s and the 105s. you should demo both w/ 65lbs + poly before you go out and buy a few.
in general, i don't find the 99s or the 105s help me to win games. They are just more fun to hit with.
how is hitting a 2hbh with this frame?
for me, i prefer the babolat pure drive std for my 2hbh. these frames are very good for 1hbh. esp. the 99s.
sorry, i lied. my wrist is in pain now from the kelvar hitting yesterday....I think I may need to give away the kelar strings I just ordered. LOL
Finally played with a 99 S after reading all the hype here. Bought it used so I have no idea what it's strung with or at. Fun to hit with, but for some reason could not quite get my serve down, I've got a small bit of tape (3 grams total) at 6, 10 and 2, but it's not nearly enough and I'm not sure I feel like investing the time or effort to experiment more. Just my 2 cents...
I demoed the 99s and the 105s the other day. Been playing with a APD 27.25 length with lead at 3 and 9.
The length, head size and power of the 105s was a little too much. It was harder to create the same angles and keep balls in the court compared to the 99.
The stability for both (no lead) was an issue for sure.
I didn't feel like I got anything extra on the serve with the 105s. The lack of plow made it hard to generate hard flat serves
The spin was very nice, probably 10-20% more spin than usual. Slice backhand was very good.
I hit a lot of very deep deeping balls within two feet of the line which was nice.
One of the racquets felt better than the other 3 but I'm guessing that was because of the strings. Its very hard to give an accurate review without playing with a good set of strings and lead in the right places.
Well after tinkering all summer with The vortex's and the steam 99s ....
I can finally say with 100 percent confidence and very extensive play testing that the Wilson 99s is the winner .
It is the greatest racquet I have ever used.
Kill me now!!!
It took me months to finally settle on the 99s.......so now a blade 18x16......barely even a month with my new stick!!
Sheesh......please I don't even want to know about that new blade!!
If you like kevlar and want to stick with it, try lowering the tension about 5 - 8 pounds. Pain that quick is usually a good sign that you've strung it too tightly. Kevlar strung loose won't trampoline, you'll be surprised. Hell, what am I saying? Kevlar strung at 1 pound won't trampoline...
Never tried Kevlar . There's no trampoline on it ? Is it deader than poly?
Kevlar is less elastic than poly, so yes, in that way it is deader. Since it is so inelastic, you don't get a trampoline effect even at lower tensions.
Is it superior yo poly? I have got to try it!
Depends on what type of strings you are used to, Kevlar has a dead feel to it, for me it feels solid and crisp. Very low powered and expect yourself to generate most of it. No freebie power or anything. But I find Ashway Kevlar to get the most bite. I started to Demo Forten Aramid which is a textured Kevlar- Very interesting. Not sure how i feel yet. my wallet feels happy because its cheap, my hands are not from stringing it.
I heard prince makes a good one as well. I am dying to try Kevlar .....but I can't find any in 15 gauge .
Is there one out there?
I tried 'em all and Ashaways the best. WHY 15g?? 16g will be just fine.
64 RDC flex for the Prince EXO Tour ESP vs 69 for the Wilson Steam 99S
I think Forten makes a 15g? Ashaway by far is the best.
Not in this stick.
Blade is coming out . You know racquet manufacturers got to keep you spending so they keep on coming out with new racquets. I heard good things about the new blade so I will be picking one up to try out.
Says the man who is "dying to try Kevlar."
And your point?
I have been playing with the Steam 99S for the past few months and recently picked up the Steam 105S to see how well I do or don't play with it.
To provide background, I'm a very athletic and fit 45yr. old that recently took up tennis a year ago, am a self rated 2.5 that typically plays with 3.0 to 4.0 players that state I don't play like a 2.5 that just picked up the sport.
I'm basically an all court player that loves to run around the court(took up the sport for exercise and socializing with friends). I don't have a monster first serve(Tons of Topspin and/or Slice on my serves) or ever break strings but do play with a lot of spin, slice and shot placement.
Having played around with a variety of tensions(45 - 54lbs.) in the 99S racquets I have, using either Luxilon 4G or 4GS, I do find that for me and my game, 4G(16 gauge) @ 45lbs. is the best compromise.
This gives me lots of spin/slice, though my ability to consistently place low slice returns over the net is no where near what its like if I use my other dense string pattered/player type racquets that are strung tighter, i.e. Volkl
PB10 Mid, Volkl C10 Pro, Organix 10(295g), etc.
At 45lbs. with 16g, my 1st serves are more consistent, less occurrences of sending them long. With this set up I do find that, for whatever reason, I don't need to take as big(fast head speed) of a swing with the racquet to generate the spin compared to when it was strung with 4GS @54lbs.
New member here.
I played quite a lot of tennis 6-7 years ago and for whatever reason had to stop. But I have been really getting back into it recently.
I had been using a Hammer 6.2 for the most part over the years.
Last week I purchased a Steam 99s and put on the recommended Luxilon 4G at 57 and noticed it had way more of a "pop" than when I demo'd the racquet (from a different store than where I purchased it). The demo had a string that I really liked. It had a much softer feel and I felt like all my shots had way more spin with it and were much easier to keep in.
I called the store and they didn't seem too sure what it was when I asked, they said they didn't carry it.
I know I don't have too much to go on but I can tell you the sticker on the frame said ESP (could mean absolutely nothing) and that they were green-ish/lime green.
Thanks, any help is much appreciated.
that was a Prince rebel 98 ESP. Look in the prince 2013 topic for pictures.
sorry, I mean the string on the steam 99s was green.
Prince synthetic gut maybe?
I know it used to come in lime-green color.
Not sure if this has been mentioned or not but the tennis announcers(Montreal Masters) said that Gulbis was using the Wilson 99S racket.
Could it have been Prince Beast?
16x19 so no
Isn't it obvious?
Heard a rumor that a Blade S is going to come out
lol, finger on pulse
Did you also hear that?
There is a thread on the 18x16 Blade S already, some have hit with it already I believe. I think TW are testing it also right now. Very interested to see how it pans out.
Thanks. My pro shop guy told me it is a big secret. But as usual TT is on top of it.
Sorry for my absence from the thread. I just got back from stringing at the cincy masters with P1.
Was surprised to see a few of these frames come to stringing room. All were strung with 4g 15 gauge.
Anyway, I'm back to the courts this week !
ANyone using the new Blade 98S yet?
are you allowed to say whose racquets they were? Didn't know any Pros were using the 99S frames
I didn't see any at the tournament.
Nobody I was familiar with. They were all players trying to qualify, so I didn't bother getting names. Sorry. 2 girls, one guy.
Any further impressions and thoughts you can give on how 99s and 98s contrast?
if the new Blade 18x16 plays like my "modded Blade 98" 18x15 it will be a big winner, bigger than the 99S IMO.
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