Wilson K Six One Tour 95

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  1. Rusty669

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    Hey guys, i need your help identifying this racket i bought from one of the biggest tennis online stores here in Germany.
    It was displayed as a "Wilson K Six One Tour 95" racket with the following specs:
    -95 sq. inch head size
    -330 grams unstrung weight(11.6 ounces)
    -16x18 string pattern
    -balance 30.0 cm(14 pts HL)
    -18 mm beam

    I received the racket today(it came unstrung) and it looks pretty decent to me.
    It also came with a leather grip.
    I will post pics as quickly as I can,after finding out how it is done here!:)

    Any help from your part in identifying if it is legitimate would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Rusty669

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    Hmm,seems that i am not able to post attachments...
    Could anybody possibly tell me how that might be done?
    Cheers
     
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  3. Satch

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    never heard for such racquet.. 18mm beam instead of 22
     
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  4. eleventeenth street

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    k 6.1 tour 95 with an 18mm beam? i don't know anything about racquet models outside the US but i've never heard of those specs before.
    are you sure it's 95 sq inches? and not 90? and 16x19 and not 16x18?
    and what do you mean by you need help identifying the racquet. if you bought it at a reputable online dealer, shouldn't you be able to identify it on the website?
     
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    Can you post a link?
     
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  6. Rusty669

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    Well,i've got the racket in my hands right now,but obviously I know that a racket like this one does not actually exist.
    To my knowledge the (k) factor line(let's just list the "player"s rackets) consists of the six one tour,the six one 95(16x18,18x20) and the six one team.
    Now i ordered the racket out of curiosity because the specs sounded too good to be true and because i can send the racket back within 4 weeks of accepting it via the post.
    It has a matte finish,and it is definately a 95 inch racket.
    I would post pics right away,but somehow i am not able to...
     
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    hmmm. interesting. is it box-beamed like the tour?
    and definately 18 mm beam?

    you should just upload pictures to photo hosting site and post the links here.
     
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  9. FederGOAT

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    That's a pic of the tour 90 and it is not made of kevlar. Probably a fake
     
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    Any pics yet?
     
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    That's a very bad fake
     
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  13. The_Question

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    K 6.1 TOUR 95?

    There is not such thing.

    k 6.1 Tour is one model, while the K 6.1 95 is another model and comes the option of 2 string patterns...

    The photos you've provided it's a K 6.1 Tour, and a fake...

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Rusty669

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    could you please be a bit more precise and accurate with your statement?
    What exactly is fake about it?I need to know,since i will send it back if it is really a fake...
    to me it loos like a wilson hyper pro staff 6.0 with a k factor paintjob,but that is just my opinion
     
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    Well, I tried to attached one of your photo, but apparently your photobucket is set to private mode.

    Anyhoot, the string holes on the PWS of the "K" paint job doesn't align properly.

    String pattern is 16X18, the real one is 16X19.

    The weight is 11.8oz, authentic is 12.0oz

    Inside of the throat is round, it's suppose to have a sharp angle

    These are the thing I noticed...
     
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  16. utmiken

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    I own several authentic K90 Tours and 1 fake one. Even if Wilson made the 6.1 Tour in a 95 (which as far as I am aware they never did), the butt cap is all wrong. There are numerous cosmetic errors and missing registered trademark logos.

    See my thread with pics comparing a fake and a real one here:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=359329
     
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  17. The_Question

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    That might be the case, since I don't know much about HPS 6.0...but not an authentic K 6.1 Tour for sure...
     
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  18. rony67

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    Looks like a Pro Staff 6.0 95 in a KFactor-pj...
     
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    Just what I was going to post....

    Def Box beam but the PWS looks more rounded ??

    I used to have a 6.1 pro stock (matt finnish) which was essentially a PSC

    surprised to see Leather grip though !!

    Nice find !!

    Mark
     
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    The web site says it's a 16x19

    so the one you have is def a 18x20 ???

    Also.... unusual to see different grip sizes available if it's a fake...

    I don't think it's a fake.... my wilson pro stock 6.1 had the same butt cap

    Mark
     
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    looks like a prostock PJ for the 6.0 95. good find, definitely looks authentic - the stats on the throat dont mean anything.
     
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    Can you check the weight and balance?
     
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    If that's the case, keep it...and rock with it...

    Or it could be a very bad counterfeit by using PS 6.0 95 mold and apply w/K90 pj...
     
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    I'm guessing that this is quite a bit more likely.
     
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  25. Marcus

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    I really don't think it is..... looks genuine to me

    almost tempted to order a couple !

    Mark
     
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  26. Rusty669

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    The weight is exactly 337 grams on my scale,but i am not too sure if mine is in perfect and exact working order!(the scale i mean)
    there is a thread here somewhere where some guy from italy was selling 4 of his wilson hyper pro staff 6.0 and looking at the head guard and also the throat the design looks identical.
    i also believe that i do not have a wilson k six one tour with a 95 headsize,but rathermore a prostock racket maybe...
    wilson germany confirmed that ii is not a fake,and the buttcap seems to be "oldish" for a k factor...
    roger used to have that buttcap too
     
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  27. Satch

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    anyway it has nothing to do with k factor..

    also is it standard lenght? how it hits?
     
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    It is of standard lenghth,yes(27 inches),as i just compared it to my regular Wilson n six one 95.
    I will upload some pics of the rackets' weight and balance within the next hour on the same site as the others.
     
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    I'm SO tempted to buy this now regardless of weather it is fake or not LOL I think it would be awesome to own a K95 Tour Box Beam!!
     
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    hey guys,,, i also bought a used WILSON NCODE SIX ONE TOUR 95 ..16X19 STRING PATTERN.. the seller said that it was taylor dent racquet... weight unstrung 312 gms/11 oz ..balance 31.1 cm/10 pts headlight... found some lead tape under the bumper..dont if he was telling the truth..
     
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  31. Satch

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    312 with lead? No way Dent would use that light
     
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  32. Rusty669

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    Right,new pics are up!
    If my measurements are correct-and i like to think they are- they are the following:
    -337 grams unstrung weight(i.e. 11,9 ounces)
    -standard 27 inches long
    -30,5 cm balance
    -19.5 mm beam(pic for that is somehow missing)
    -16x18 string pattern

    But feel free to judge for yourself,I personally believe it is a legitimate,maybe slightly modified Wilson Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 in a k factor disguise.
     
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    Same here! Wonder if they ship to the U.S
     
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  35. Shaochieh

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    The stick is real. My landlord here in Germany is a Wilson dealer and it was offer to him to sell but it was not a popular stick. I might pick me one up just to see if it is anymore forgiving than the 90 version.
     
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  36. Shaochieh

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    My last post was correct but it is not the same beam width as the 6.1 90 tour. The advertisement on the site is not correct. The beam is not 18mm and I believe it is just a Pro Staff Original 95 mold in different color.
     
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    Thanks man,that is a real relief to hear!:)
    So i need not worry that it is a fake,since it doesn't have a Wilson hologram...
    Very cool,I'll string it up during the course of the week then
     
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  38. Lphansen

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    Let us know how it plays, please ?

    Lphansen
     
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  39. Rusty669

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    Sure,will post a review plus additional pics of the strung rackets next week.
    I've got official information that it is indeed a Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 95 in a (k) factor paintjob.
    Allegedly it was made for european touring pros...
    We'll see if it hits like the pro Staff.
     
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    So I got my second racket yesterday, but unfortunately I noticed that it is 5 grams lighter than the other one,weighing in at "only" 332 grams unstrung,whereas the other one weighs 337 grams...Is this normal you think?
    In addition,the latest one I got has a trapdoor,so I popped it open and will upload the pics of it in a second.
    Please tell me what you think
     
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    Then why is it available to the public through this online Tennis store? Why is it so cheap if it's technically a 'ProStock'?
     
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    I seriously do not know the answer to that question,all I can say is that on this same forum there is a thread about a "pro stock" wilson k six one 95 from england,which supposedly was pretty cheap too...
    That's all i can say mate
     
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    Anybody?Does the foam-filling look ok to you guys?
     
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    This is an interesting thread. The possibility of a new prostaff 95.
     
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  46. Shaochieh

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    I think it is a solid racket with a decent amount of power and still a control stick. I bit more power and forgiven than the tour 90 but a bit softer stick. I played with my pro staff original 95 today and still a sweet stick at 340g weight class. Solid as it can be to expected from the k factor tour 95. Enjoy the stick I might pick
    W two of these sticks since I do live in Germany. :)
     
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  47. Bobby Jr

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    So, votes from people with experience in this area:

    It is a:
    - Prostaff original 95 with paint-job (which somehow a shop in Germany got hold of)
    - An actual K Six One Tour 95 (which, until now, no-one had heard of)
    - A fake *whatever*

    ...and your reasons why.
     
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  48. Rusty669

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    I strongly believe it is the first option(Pro Staff 6.0 95) in a k factor paintjob.
    If you look at the pics closely,you will see some definite features of the original Pro Staff 95:
    -the "roundish" throat of the racket(exactly like the PS6.0)
    -20 mm beam(exactly like PS6.0)
    -bumperguard is identical to PS6.0 with these slightly longishly shaped bevels
    -weight is roughly the same
    -same string pattern
    -same buttcap
    -same headsize and form of the headsize
     
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  49. Shaochieh

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    Rusty669 where do you live in Germany? I live in Stuttgart. Sure would like to compare it with my Pro Staff Original 95. How does it play?
     
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  50. Rusty669

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    I live in M√ľnster,mate!Do you know the town?not as big as stuttgart!:)
    Anyway,i will string the rackets up at the end of the week and then have a hit with them at the weekend,cause I am not allowed to play until then due to a hernia operation a few weeks ago!

    Have a nice day
     
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