Wilson N Six-One 95 (16/18), AMAZING

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  1. j2elve

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    I was finally able to get a used one, and this racquet is simply phenomenal.
    Freshly strung with Alu Power in the mains and Gosen Arammix in the crosses, it did everything better than my previous Babolat Pure Storm Tour. The spin, control, stability and raw power are all notable attributes of this stick.
    I'm definitely going to use the N6.1 as my main racquet from now on, and hopefully get more N6.1s somehow.
    If you ever get a chance at one of these, I really advise you to try it out---you won't be disappointed!

    Post your thoughts, past experiences, and anything to do with the N6.1 95 (16/18 or 18/20---e.g. how much do they differ?) =)
     
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  2. Booyah

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    i love my 18/20. couldn't agree more. wish they still had them around.
     
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  3. mawashi

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    I'm glad you like the N95, I really feel it is a much better frame than the K95.

    Perhaps you can hit with a K95 just to see which you actually prefer.

    Cheers,

    mawashi
     
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  4. kobe3pointer

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    yeah its an awesome frame,great feel, control, volleys, serves...

    ive tried the k95, the n95 feels better, and imo looks ALOT better too...
     
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  5. j.m.p

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    this was my previous rac before i switched..loved the feel!

    wad's your fav set-up on this gem?
    mine's full MSV 18g at 55lbs :)
     
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  6. kobe3pointer

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    hurricane at 61, best control and power
     
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  7. gocard

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    ahh, a wonderful racquet. I wish I had another one... :) the ksix-one just doesn't seem the same.
     
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  8. Mansewerz

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    Man, it's so good looking that I wanted to buy one just for the pj.
     
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  9. j2elve

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    It really is a sweet stick in every regard---yes, paint job too =)
    as i posted above, i'm using alu power and gosen arammix blend strings as hybrids at mid tension i assume since i bought it strung---it feels like it. I usually use BBO/NRG2 hybrid on my PST.
    Kobe, I had sent you that email, are you still interested in trading for my PST? I'll send you pictures soon.

    I've also played with the K6.1 95. They are both solid, responsive racquets, but the N6.1 felt a lot more maneuverable and simply more comfortable when swinging it. Maybe it was the string on the demo, but the Kfactor just didn't do as well for me as the Ncode. =)
     
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  10. dwhiteside

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    I love how it feels and I've demoed about 15 different high quality racquets over the past few weeks, the n95 6.1 16x18 has been the best out of all of them by leaps and bounds. I like it better than k95 and other k6.1 models. Strung at 60lb with Unique Big Hitter 17 main and Gosen synthetic gut cross makes for an incredible stick.
     
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  11. dwhiteside

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    Oh, anyone who has used both 16x18 and 18x20 variants of the n6.1 95 want to comment about the difference between the two?
     
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  12. [K]aotic

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    yeah this really is a great frame. its suited for all styles...serve and volley, baseline bashing, etc. you name it and it does it! thats why i have 5 of these babies. :D
     
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  13. roundiesee

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    Guys, is this a comfortable stick? Mawashi especially (I know you use a PK because of TE) can chime in, thanks!
     
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  14. Casco

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    Here's the text from three posts I made last year regarding my experiences with the two n6.1-95 string patterns:

    It's a great racquet. When I switched to the n6.1 95, I initially went with the 16x18. The spin and power were great, but I gave the 18x20 a try because I was hitting a little long at times even though I generally hit with lots of topspin and i was looking for just a hint more control. The 18x20 has been great! Still plenty of spin, beautiful control, and its outstanding on those "Dip-Drives" when I just bash the ball flat. I string with Luxilon Alu Power Rough at 56 right now, which I lowered a bit when I switched from the 16x18 which I had at 59/60).
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    I made the switch from the 16x18 n6.1-95 to the 18x20 version several months ago. The 18x20 exhibits slightly less power and slightly more control. Serving accuracy is excellent. Because the 16x18 has amazing spin potential, I noticed a slight difference at first, but at this point I think the 18x20 has good spin potential too, and I'm very comfortable with it. The 18x20 is the version that all the pros that I've seen using the 95 use.
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    The n6.1-95 (18x20) is a wonderfully stable, solid, and well controlled racquet. It has nice pop when serving. And unlike the 16x18 version of the n6.1 95, it does not have to be strung at 60 or greater to keep the ball in the court. You can string in the low to mid range. You can hit flat when you wish, and there is plenty of access to spin - your choice. The 18x20 pattern is also good for string life.
     
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  15. jules2

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    If you hit with a lot of spin, the 18x20 needs some considerable racquet head speed from the baseline to get the ball deep without resorting looping it up high. When it comes to flattening out winners it really is a beautifully controlled device. Heavy, controlled serves are superb and it really feels like you can put the ball anywhere you want. Having said that, I am currently tinkering with the K61 95 16x18 which is a beast from the baseline on both serves and groundstrokes. (Both racquets strung with alu power rough/nxt).
     
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  16. Ross K

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    Q. How would ppl say the n95 compares to Babs like the PD, APD, PDR or PST?... is it closest to one in particular?
     
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  17. crazylevity

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    definitely closest to the PST, the n6.1 was my previous main stick. The rest of the Babs are way too stiff, powerful, and feel much more different.
     
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  18. chrishin

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    so many compliments about this racquet makes me want to try one. found around 4 stores in korea with 95 ... wanna try one but hope they have it stock till june. even found one with 90
     
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  19. Element54

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    Couldn't agree more!
     
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  20. Ross K

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    Interesting... thanks... I'd heard it's a bit stiff, quite powerful and slightly muted, and therefore wondered if it was indeed slightly alike some Babs.
     
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  21. In D Zone

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    The n6.1 95 16x18 is a beast! You can hit some heavy flat bombs or a wicked topspin on this pup. However, we found the racquet to be too powerful for me and my son - we both tend to over hit which can be frustrating.
    I ended up changing to N6.1 90 or the K90 - its much more tame and very manuverable. My son went with Head MG Prestige MP.

    I am keeping one copy and have traded the second copy with a k95 18x20. I feel that me and son can generate enough racquet speed to generate our own power so going for a denser pattern will definitely be a plus.
     
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  22. kobe3pointer

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    i have 2 n95's, wouldnt mind trading one, anyone wana trade me for something else? k95? pst?
     
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  23. dwhiteside

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    Now here's something important:

    What do you guys who use n95s think of lead tape? Anyone have any on their racquet? Someone told me that on the 16x18 version of the n6.1 the sweetspot tends to be a bit down on the racquet face, and that if I tape at 10 and 2, or 1 and 11, it will raise the sweetspot up a bit and make the racquet even better.

    So, yay or nay on lead taping it?
     
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  24. Mdubb23

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    Guys, you can buy new N6.1s on R A C Q U E T B R O K E R.com, they pretty much have any old racquet new. However, they only have the 16x18.

    Edit: Sorry, TW, for taking away business, I just feel that it is a fantastic frame and people should have the oppurtunity to purchase it new. I'd feel even worse not saying something.
     
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  25. dwhiteside

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    Nope, no n6.1s on that site! Just k6.1 and n6.2
     
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  26. Pusher

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    I don't see any N6.1's on that site.
     
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  27. Mdubb23

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    Wow, never mind, they must have just sold their last few! On Monday, they had 7 left in 4 3/8, and 5 in 4 1/4. My apologies.
     
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  28. dwhiteside

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    Ahh, ack!

    I'm curious though, what was the price for one of those new??
     
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    $130 US Dollars.
     
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  30. Mdubb23

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    They also still have a few HPS6.1s if you're interested.
     
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  31. j2elve

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    Aw that's a shame..

    But yes, the 16x18 offers amazing spin action on shots, especially on serve =)

    What do you guys think of the K Factor in comparison? It's supposed to be an upgrade, but like so many people have already said, it's really a step back. I mean, the K6.1 95 is a sweet stick, next to the N Code... =P

    Speak your thoughts~
     
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  32. j2elve

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    oh sorry, i meant "[BUT] next to the N Code..."
    as in the N is superior ^^
     
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  33. asafi2

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    This lead tape idea sounds interesting...anyone have insight on this?
     
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  34. gocard

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    How did you know they still had those grip sizes?? I went there before Monday and only saw 4 1/8 grips listed :( I'm just wondering how you were able to see that, since I would have ordered one right away if I knew they still had the grip size I wanted.
     
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  35. Ross K

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    How would ppl who've hit with both string patterns describe the differences? (BTW, I heard the 18x20 is a lot better than the 16x18.)
     
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  36. FuriousYellow

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    I guess I'd have to know what your definition of "down" is. I have mine strung @ 59M/57C. For me, the sweetspot starts around the fifth cross down to around the ninth or tenth. The sweetspot is pretty large on this racquet and I've never had trouble finding it.

    Except for overgrip, mine is stock. I haven't felt the need to use lead tape. I find it to be a very stable frame.
     
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  37. FuriousYellow

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    I have both and prefer the more open pattern. I had trouble controlling spin and depth with the 18x20. Some times, I'd get massive topspin and other times I'd barely clear the net.

    I also didn't like the way it felt. I experimented with a few different tensions but couldn't duplicate that same feel I have with the 16x18. It was either too board or too mushy. With the 16x18, I know what string and what tension adjustments I prefer.
     
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  38. DonBot

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    Yeah I agree I run my 16x 18 totally bone stock and it is a sweet sweet hit.
     
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  39. btangel

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    I'm a 4.0 and have been playing with 16x18s for the last 2 years. I have 3 of them strung with ALU BB on mains @ 55lbs and wilson NXT 16g cross @ 53lbs. This combination so far has given me the best feel and control. Although the NXTs don't last very long...and I have to restring every 3~4 weeks. :(

    The only other racket that I've played with that had a better feel was the K90 tour. Unfortunately I didn't find my strokes consistent enough to play effectively with the K90. Not to mention it was a bit on the heavy side.
     
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  40. monomakh

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    I'm with btangel and ditto on the K90 (which feels fantastic but unforgiving)

    Love my n6.1 16x18's (got 4) and right now, they're battling with my APDCs for my primary racquet (which is strange since the two racquets are almost entirely dissimilar, but I like them for different reasons. The n6.1 is for serious business and against heavy hitters, the APDC is just flat out fun... and a lot easier to swing after 3 hours than the n6.1).

    I haven't found any sting combo that wasn't a satisfying mix. Fav: nat gut main (any kind), multi crosses. Others I've tried: full Alu Timo poly (fantastic! ... for about 4 hours), a few poly-multi mixes (multis were an Alpha, Head RIP control, and NXT, polys were Alpha, the TiMo, and alu power rough), a syn/multi mix, and full syn job. With syn on the mains, the racquet is as pedestrian as it's going to get, though I've really liked the OG Sheep Micro.

    As opposed to lead tape, however, I recommend putting in a leather replacement grip and/or weights in the handle. A couple more points head light and the n6.1 is even dreamier. Great stick.
     
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  41. btangel

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    wow! I also replaced the original undergrip with a leather. :) I find that it improves the 'feel' factor slightly in a sense that I feel the ball more on impact. I put white wilson overgrip on it as well so it's not too hard on the hand.
     
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  42. spdskr

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    I have three n6.1: 2 16x18, 1 18x20. For the baseline basher, the 16x18 are dream sticks. Crazy spin and depth once you figure out which string setup works best for you. For myself it's natural gut mains and poly crosses. The 18x20 feels quite different: more consistency on serves and at net, but my baseline shots don't have the depth with this racquet as with the more open pattern 16x18. I keep the 18x20 strung with full gut and use it primarily against big serving, hard hitting oponents or if I'm having one of those days when I can't control the power of the 16x18.
     
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  43. dwhiteside

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    For tension, what do you guys like to string the 16x18 at? I've been at 60; going to restring with full nat gut to see how it plays - not sure if I should do 60 again, or lower? Prolly bab VS this time around.
     
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  44. Pushmaster

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    The N6.1 95 was a very pleasant surprise to me when I demoed it a few years back. If I was in the market for a midplus players stick, it would be high on my list. The only problem now would be finding them.
     
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  45. jcstennis

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    like above... i have always used leather and an overgrip with the n6.1 95. feels great... now stringing with Lux ALU Rough mains, Babolat Xcel Premium crosses... feels nice, probably strung it too low, lots of power... i'm letting this one go though, if interested contact me.
     
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  46. spdskr

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    What's your goal for the string change to gut? Joint soreness, more power, better feel? Keep in mind the 16x18 is quite powerful and going full gut will only enhance this, especially the VS. I would string VS higher than my normal tension, or string a "crisp" gut like Klip the same as my normal synthetic gut or multi. Lastly, you may find crossing the gut with a poly will tame some of the power but still give you much of the feel you may be looking for.
     
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  47. j2elve

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    Hey everyone,
    At the moment, I'm undecided between a K6.1 95 and an N.6.1 95 (both 18x20).
    I've found in the past that there is more heft in the Kfactor compared to the ncode. Can anyone confirm this?
     
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  48. FuriousYellow

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    I haven't tried the 18x20 K version, but the K and N 18x20s look like their closer in spec than the 16x18 versions. The 18x20 N version was stiffer and less HL than the 16x18.
     
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  49. j2elve

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    That's interesting, I actually thought that the kfactor was stiffer.
    I will have to try out the 18 x 20 K6.1 soon.
    Anyone else care to enlighten us---comparing the N6.1 95 to the K6.1 95?
     
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  50. nyc

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    I have 4 N95s 16x18, and also installed leather grips with Supergrab overgrips - it's a very sweet racquet, absolutely love it!

    The K95 was just a tad too stiff for me, but it didn't feel less maneuverable, as some people say. I think he difference is pretty small, so that a forced transition once my Ncodes are done wouldn't be the end of the world.

    To me the N95 is like that old well-worn pair of jeans that is just sooo perfect....

    I'v been playing with different setups, but keep coming back to BBO on it. I think it's a pretty tweakable stick and can be adjusted to many tastes with tension and string alone.

    I hope Wilson's next gen sticks are gonna include a 95 that's close to the NCodes again.
     
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