Wilson Patent for 16x15?

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  1. Rafaboy

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    Does Wilson have a patent/pending for the 16X15 and other similar specs?
    Is it possible?

    If I were them, I know I would have done it before releasing the Steam S models.

    If so, then dont look forward to these patterns being in your other favorite brands/models in the near future.
     
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  2. Rock Strongo

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    I don't think they can patent a particular string pattern. If they could, that's just stupid.
     
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  3. Rafaboy

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    Its highly possible. A patent requires that the design/spec be specific. 16x15 is as specific as you can get.

    I will check the 99s for any patent markings on it.
     
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  4. Rafaboy

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    Ok, just as I had suspected, on the frame it has the label "patent pending" which, I believe is even more effective
    in protecting a design that an actual patent number, that prevents copying while the patent is pending.
     
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  5. Jerry Seinfeld

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    The patent is very clever. It covers any pattern consisting of fewer crosses than mains.
     
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  6. Buford T Justice

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    Th fellas at Wilson were born at night....just not last night :)

    That is definitely a smart approach.
     
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    I would like to see them come out with a 18x17 or 18x16 racquet. In theory wouldn't it offer more directional control of an 18x20 while still offering offering additional string movement than the standard 18 main?
     
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  8. themitchmann

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    Considering Prince had developed an open pattern racquet for mid 2012, I'd say Wilson copied them (but released it first).

    Of course, the Wilson pattern has 1 less cross, where as the Prince pattern is just more open.
     
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  9. babolat king

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    I bet Powerangle racquets has the patent for that string pattern...ha
     
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  10. Absolute

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    Imagine if some company had patented the use of graphite in rackets
     
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  11. Rafaboy

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    Did a little research on patent requirements today. It states that the design has to be "non-obvious" and "novel."

    "Non obvious", meaning that state of the art designers cant just look at a current design, and know obviously,that a modification to it(as applied for in the patent) would give it the results obtained.

    "Novel" meaning that the design has not been commonly used already.

    I can see where Wison could meet both criteria, by showing all the work and research, testing etc., it took for them to reach the final design.

    The purpose of this whole thread is, for those of us that want to wait/dream for our favorite other brands to come out with 16x15, or anything close, to figure out if it will ever happen. and if not, then no use waiting in false hopes.
     
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  12. mikeler

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    I play tennis with a patent attorney. I'll try and remember to ask him this question next time we play.
     
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  13. Buford T Justice

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    Ask him if "Patent Pending" actually prevents someone from making a similar product.

    If so, Wilson could, even if an actual patent is never awarded for the design, "buy" significant time to own the open stringbed market?
     
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  14. Rock Strongo

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    Wow... That's actually quite weird. So if I want to play say a 12x10 pattern and then go on tour (let's just say I was a successful player and decided to change), I would have to pay royalties to Wilson even if I was using another brand? Feels quite stupid...
     
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    It doesn't mean anything, or prevents anything, except that it states that they applied for a patent.
    However, if another brand copied it and Wilson got the pattent approved at later stage, they still could sue them. I doubted that they'll get it, though. If there is any records (pics, videos) of someone playing with a similar pattern, prior to the date of their application, they would be denied.
     
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  16. Arthuro

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    They have not placed a patent on the S technology from my searches.
     
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  17. Rafaboy

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    Well, you may not have found it, but it says "patent pending" right on my 99s frame. It takes about 18 months for a patent to be granted.
     
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  18. Arthuro

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    You should be able to see pending patents on googlepatents. Does it have a patent number?
     
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    Such a wide patent - fewer crosses than mains - would be unlikely to be granted in the common law countries.


    If makers found it a great seller I'm sure they'd go down that route, after all Mr Dyson had a patent as well.
     
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    Yep, but. . . .

    Clearly the clock is ticking for the patents for 16x14, 15x13, etc etc. Do it quickly guys!! :lol:
     
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  21. Rafaboy

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    no patent number, because the patent has not been issued yet.
     
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  22. Rafaboy

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    I dream of an APD with a 16x15 option. But it may just be a pipe dream....
     
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  23. Rock Strongo

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    There are documents of posters having 14x9, and I have an old Yonex which is strung at 20x19 (Yonex could just look up that racquet and instantly void the patent because that's how it's specified). So they can't really...
     
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  24. un6a

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    When the hype is over, this patent will be useless
     
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