Wilson Pro Staff 85 vs. Head Prestige Classic 600 vs. Prince Original Graphite Mid

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  1. thefan

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    I currently only own the PS85 but I was wondering how does the other "classics" that are mentioned so much on this forums such as the PC 600 and the POG mid compare to the ps85.

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  2. thefan

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    anyone?

    bump..
     
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  3. Duzza

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    You can't compare these racquets because it's impossible to describe how good they all play. Demo.
     
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  4. Duzza

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    I can however:

    PS 85
    Stiff
    Small head
    Good maneuvrability
    Fine spin wise
    Best for servers IMO

    PC600
    Flexy
    Horrible for volleys IMO
    Great for serves and Backhands

    POG
    Stiff
    Great for volleys
    Above AVG for serves
    Great spin potential with the right setup
     
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  5. Deuce

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    The PS 85 isn't stiff - it's crisp. Big difference.

    The POG mid is definitely stiff. And much less comfortable than the PS 85.

    The Prestige Classic is the softest, most comfortable of the three.
     
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  6. Duzza

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    Sorry, you're right. I'm using mine at the moment and it's got a great feel, not stiff.
     
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  7. stevekim8

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    i'm ALSO VERY interested in comparisons of these three racquets. i'm trying to decide on one. which one would have easier time hitting sweetspot? and which one would give the "best" forehand? (topspin and flat, i guess). and i also heard pog has AMAZING slice and drop shot. i'm a head lm prestige user right now, and very interested in pc600, since i heard that safin still uses pc600 and not fxp
     
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  8. jayserinos99

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    I'd echo the same things as Deuce. The POG mid can be a bit more 'harsh' than the PS85. When I used the POG mid I had to add a lot of lead tape + a soft multi at low 50s tension so I can play without pain for a bit. As for the PC, it definitely is the softest even with the denser string pattern; the PS is crisper but not to the point of arm pain.
     
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  9. jasonbourne

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    Does the kevlar in the PS 85 make it softer to the 100% graphite of the POG Mid?
     
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  10. Tennis Man

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    I hope we are talking abotu the original versions: PS 85 with white butt caps and PC 600, Made in Austria ....


    agree ... they are a benchmark to judge the other racquet by.


    agree ... PS 85 can be almost as soft and comfortable as PC 600 (one of my unleaded SV) or as stiff at POG (earlier China) but PS 85 is definitely more versatile (the best serving racquet ever, lot of control and comfort) and PC 600 is just "buttah" although it's asking for lead :)
     
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  11. Tennis Man

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    That's a mistery (read an early Wilson gimmick). With 20% kevlar t's supposed to be stiffer than POG but it's not.
     
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  12. dr_punk

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    I think the 85 is the best thing i've ever held in my hands.
     
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  13. routine125

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    hey dr. punk,

    what version of the wilson 85 do you have? if the newer china one, have you tried previous versions: taiwan, st. vincent? if so how do they compare? what are you stringing your racquet with? tension?
     
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  14. MTXR

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    I wish i could put the PS85 handle on the PC600. The more rectangular shape grip does a doozy on my hand.
     
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  15. dr_punk

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    I've been hitting with drakulie's PS85's lately and they are St. Vincents and Taiwan models i believe. The ones I bought are taiwan models i think. The Taiwanese is definitely less firm than the SV's, as other people have put it.
     
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  16. Keifers

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    100% graphite is inherently stiff. Adding Kevlar takes away some of the harshness, without robbing the PS 85 of feel.

    You can do a fairly direct comparison by playtesting the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) side-by-side with the Redondo Type C (100%).
     
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  17. jasonbourne

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    Keifers, thanks for the response. I started tennis using the Max 200G, which I thought was 100% graphite. Perhaps it was only injected with graphite - unsure what this means. The Max 200G was considerably softer than the PS 85. Hence, my confusion of what benefits of what kevlar adds to rackets.
     
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  18. drakulie

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    jason, I definitely found the POG mid to be stiffer than my 85's.
     
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  19. jasonbourne

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    PS 6.1 Classic is known to be stiff racket and it has kevlar, similar to PS 85.

    Is the POG Mid stiffer than PS 6.1 Classic?
     
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  20. mclee025

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    So what you are saying here is that the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) has the same great feel as the Redondo Type C (100%) but without the harshness. Is that right?

    So given that, in your opinion, is the PK Heritage Type C a better racquet than the Redondo Type C? Slightly off topic, but just curious :).
     
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  21. stormholloway

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    Come on Duzza, PC600 horrible for volleys? Yeah right.
     
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  22. drakulie

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    ^^ probably pilot error.
     
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  23. Keifers

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    You're welcome. According to Dunlop, the Max 200G was made of "Injection Molded Graphite with Nylon Matrix" -- I've no idea what that means either, although I have read on these boards that the process was expensive and therefore unlikely to be used again for making racquets.
     
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  24. Keifers

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    Both are fine player's racquets and the difference in impact harshness between them is not so large that one is clearly better than the other. It's more a matter of personal preference.

    Having played both of them, I would say that if one started with the Heritage, the Redondo might feel slightly more raw or harsh in comparison. And if one were used to the Redondo, the Heritage might feel a little muted and providing less information about what the stringbed is doing with the ball.
     
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