Wilson Red Alert

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  1. fortun8son

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    I strung this up as an experiment (never used it before) for a hard hitting High School player @ 59 in a Wilson K Bold.
    He needed more control and durability than he was getting with other synguts and I was unwilling to suggest poly.
    He practices 3 times a week in addition to his matches.
    It lasted 9 weeks before he finally popped a cross right in the middle of the sweetspot!
    What's that, 30-40 hours?
    He and his parents were pleased.
    I was impressed.
    Although they probably should've come back sooner. :)
    BTW it strings up strangely for a syngut. Stiff like a poly, yet with a zingy sound like kevlar because of the texture.
    Yet it 'pings' nicely and has very little vibration.
    Not a true playtest, but I thought y'all might like to know.
     
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  2. JoelDali

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    There's several threads on the string if you want to read historical data use the search box.

    Its a cheesy ass string but plays quite well.
     
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  3. themitchmann

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    I put it in a string breaker's frame, as he requested full syn gut. He actually loved it. And, it lasted longer than anticipated.

    The only complaint: it's pink. Pink Alert.
     
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  4. mctennis

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    I have a set I've never tried. I hadn't heard or seen any reviews up to now. I have that set up for trade but maybe will take off my post in the FS/FT section. It doesn't sound too bad.
     
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  5. fortun8son

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    I dunno. Looks pretty darn red to me.
     
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    I recently tried it and loved it too. It lasts much longer and has great feel. And yes, it is red. When you wear it down it starts to turn a little white, but it is definately red.
     
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  7. fortun8son

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    I think I'll only use it fullbed, though.
    Seems a bit too rough for a hybrid.
    Still gonna use Gosen, Forten, or Gamma Syngut for crosses w/poly.
     
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  8. themitchmann

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    It has white/red wraps around the outside. From afar, it looks pretty pink. His buddies all busted his chops about it.
     
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    That's odd. The stuff I got is solid red, no stripes. The core is clear and shows through with wear.
    That sounds more like the 'red' PSGD
     
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  10. themitchmann

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    Huh. The playtest batches were white/red...like a candy cane. I had another set from when it was first released that was the same way. Perhaps they changed it. If so, I think it would be an improvement.
     
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    Definitely no candy stripes. Glad they changed it!
     
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    Update:
    This string does exactly what it's supposed to do.
    It has the the most control, spin, durability, and resistance to movement of any syngut out there.
    It is the perfect choice for the player who quickly blows through standard syngut but is not quite ready for RIP or Poly.
    Not suitable for hybrids, though. Too rough.
    I like it. Bought a reel. Good stuff!

    P.S. It will never win any awards for ease of stringing. I've used polys that were friendlier. 8)
     
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  13. Power Player

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    Fortun8, you have just blown my mind. I have never heard of this stuff.

    I currently use RIP and really like it at 60#s. Would this work at the same tension?

    EDIT I playtested this stuff..been a while though. I think I will give it another run. I remember Dali loved it.
     
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  14. fortun8son

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    It's more powerful than RIP and not as much spin, but you can string it high, and it's really red.
    Not the candy cane playtest stuff.
    I have another hard-hitting junior who goes through it in about 4-6 weeks.
     
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  15. Power Player

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    hmm..not as much spin..

    :(

    Hows the tension drop? RIP drops from 60 to 53 or so.
     
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  17. Steve Huff

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    I've strung it up a couple of times now. Never found it rough. Definitely no white in it. One set was a little "pinker" than the others I have. The promo set I got from USRSA was the reddist of the bunch. I think its a great string. Did not find it stiff. Maybe a touch firmer than PSGD, but played no stiffer than say Gosen OG Micro. I haven't tried the 17g yet.
     
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    It is an awesome string for tweeners who need more stiffness and durability, but are not ready for poly.
    I may be the only advocate of this string, but, So Be It.
    I like ZoTwist, too.
     
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  19. Power Player

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    Has anyone ever had this in the main and crossed with a poly?
     
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    I've been reluctant to try it in a hybrid because of the rough texture.
    Sounds like an interesting experiment.
     
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    Ok ill give it a go.
     
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    Day 1 of red alert mains and cofocus crosses went rather well. Excellent feel..solid spin and control.

    I need to log more time with it, but this is a real nice setup.
     
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  23. Steve Huff

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    Have to admit, all of the subsequent sets I have bought have been pink. Pink Alert! Common Wilson--lets get back to "RED" Alert. The strings do have more texture than the promo set I got prior to it being released.
     
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  24. JoelDali

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    If Reggie Jackson was a tennis player he'd be using Red Alert.

    Epic.
     
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    I don't get it. Pink?
    All of mine is just as red, if not darker, than TF RedCode.
     
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  26. sepidoel

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    Mine is definitely red, but read as in cheap plastic red. I'm not fond of the color, but its performance is great considering its price. Done it full-bed (initially great, and still not bad after it went soft) and hybrid (@cross with Polystar Energy 17 @main - great setup for 5+ hours already).
     
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    Interesting. No one has told me about it going soft.
    They say it plays fine until, BLAM!, three mains pop at once.
     
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  28. Power Player

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    I crossed mine with poly and it played great. The spin was average, but the feel was amazing. It broke in 5 or 6 hours without warning, just popped, but all the mains had deep notching in them.
     
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    Perhaps because I'm not really a powerful player, my game relies more on control and placement. What I realized was when I got less spin and control the string moved more than before. Right now the racquet rests in my bag as my secondary, I guess it even softer now - I'll try playing with it next time.
     
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  30. Capt. Willie

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    Are you guys stringing this at the same tension you would for any other syn gut or are you dropping it a couple pounds because of it's stiffness?
     
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  31. Steve Huff

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    I string it the same tension. Has good feel.
     
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  32. sepidoel

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    Same as well.
     
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  33. fortun8son

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    Yeah, string tension like a normal syngut.
     
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  34. sepidoel

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    I just helped my friend strung her racquet using Red Alert, and to my surprise it was truly red color unlike mine. I don't whether it's because of different production dates or there's problem with Wilson quality control. Can't say anything about performance differences since her racquet is 110 sq" while mine is 15 sq" smaller.
     
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  35. treo

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    I've been using Red Alert for a few hours. Mine is a deep red just like the set I bought last year. This time the strings are leaving red marks on the ball. Weird.
     
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    My son uses a couple of different stringings. Primary racquets are poly main/syngut cross, tension right at the mid-point of his racquet (58 pounds on racquet that recommends 53-63 pounds), and usually has 2-3 racquets in the bag like this. He also has one backup racquet that is strung differently for occasions when you are having one of those days when your touch is off and you need to try something different in desperation. Typically, this is a Wilson Hollow Core syngut at 60 pounds. Hollow Core is also the syngut used on the crosses of the hybrids.

    What do you think about replacing Hollow Core with Red Alert on either of these setups? Does anyone have experience with both Hollow Core and Red Alert?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hi, I got tempted and bought a set for my girlfriend, she plays only with syn gut DF and doesnt like other strings.

    Red Alert was extremely stiff first hour at 26 kg tension. Second hitting it went softer and plays like Prince syn gut but doesnt move that much atm. It is more crisp atm.

    In her Prince Ignite team its looking marvelous, nice color as blood is.
     
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  38. ClarkC

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    Strung two identical racquets at 58 pounds with full bed Wilson Red Alert in one and Wilson Hollow Core syngut in the other. My son hit about 50 balls from a ball machine with one, then immediately did the same with the other. He had a very strong preference for the Red Alert. The strings moved around a lot on the Hollow Core and did not snap back. The strings stayed in place on the Red Alert, and he felt a lot more control and directional accuracy with the Red Alert.

    Hollow Core has now been relegated to use only in crosses of a hybrid string job with poly mains, based on the fact that even fans of Red Alert don't recommend it in hybrids.
     
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  39. mmk

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    When I strung Tourna BHB7 it left black marks on the ball, which was also weird, but I imagine that red marks would look weirder. I might have to try Red Alert just for that.
     
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  40. fortun8son

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    This is good stuff.
    It has a lot going for it.
    If you can break it in less than 3 weeks, you're ready for poly.
     
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  41. sepidoel

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    Hi, fortun8son.

    Have you ever tried Wilson SGX 16? Comparing to Red Alert it's softer, more powerful, about the same spin friendly, cheaper, but less control - while I still can't comment about durability, but so far so good. When freshly strung it has pretty weird sound, like plastic.

    I try that on my Dunlop Bio100 as main @55 with Polystar Energy 17 @52 as cross. It replaced my Red Alert which had the same setup.
     
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