Wilson Six.One 95L - play the same as previous version?

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  1. TripleB

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    T-W Playtesters,

    If any of you have played with the new Wilson Six.One 95L, can you tell any difference in play characteristics between it and the previous version (Wilson Six.One BLX Team)?

    Other than the stiffness (65 vs 63) and the thickness (21mm vs 22mm) it seems the new version has identical specs to the old one. Just curious as to if they play any differently.

    Thank you for your help!

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    Benjamin,
    We have been busy testing the Pro Staffs, Strikes and Prestiges these last few weeks so have not had time to hit new vs old for the lighter Six.One.

    I will try to get out with them early next week.

    Cheers,
    Chris, TW
     
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  3. TripleB

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    No problem Chris...with all the new racquets coming out I know you all have been extremely busy!

    If you have a chance to hit with it, great...if not I completely understand!!

    I'll probably end up throwing one of the two in a foursome of demos with the 95S, Graphene Radical Pro, and Classic Graphite 100 when they all arrive at T-W.

    Enjoy your playtests and keep up the amazing work...all your hard work is much appreciated by everyone here on the boards!!!

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  4. Mike.Killion

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    the 95L does NOT have the double hole grommets

    Triple B -

    I've had the chance to hit with the new wilson 95L last week. I've been using the six-one team since it was first introduced in the KFactor line. I thought the 2012-2013 line of six-one team was the absolute best so far. To me, it's slightly stiffer than in previous models (KFactor and red/black BLX models). Plus, the team model was offered in the more open 16x18 string pattern which offered more power and more spin. I also thought the double hole grommet technology that Wilson throws into some of their rackets also adds to the power and spin. I personally love the team racket for a few reasons: (1) the open 16x18 string pattern, (2) double-hole grommets to add more spin and power, and (3) the lighter weight which allows me to really customize it to what I'm looking for. The added stiffness of the frame in the latest red/white combo is also a much added bonuses for me too.

    Now the bad news (in my opinion). The new 95L does NOT have the double hole grommets. The grommets on the new 95L are the same as all of the rackets in the pro staff and six-one lines. The frame is actually the same width: approx. 21mm. Some websites simply just round up the width of frames because they don't want to mess with specific widths. I've compared them side-by-side and they look identical in terms of thickness. I didn't get a chance to put my actual strings in the demo (this time) and hit. I plan on doing that in the next few weeks and submit a much more detailed review in the customer feedback section. The frame did feel a little stiffer in the upper hoop area (again, a nice improvement). I think for this frame, a flex rating of around 65 is dead on perfect. The 63 flex on the '12-'13 red/white model seemed just a tick too flexible.

    Other than the slightly stiffer feel, the biggest change is getting rid of the double hole grommets throughout the entire string bed. I thought the new 95L version lacked the power and the spin that the previous red/white version offered. In a few weeks, I will get to demo the racket longer. I plan on getting my own strings in it and get my typical custom weight on it (6-7gr of lead tape under the bumper guard and approx. 25gr of tape under the grip along the handle) and put on a leather grip. My "playing" weight for my team racket is closer to static weight of 345gr and approximate 8 pts. HL. I play with 17L MSV co-focus hex at 54#. I suspect without the double hole grommets, I'll have to lower my tension to 50 or 52 lbs. to get the same playing characteristics in the 95L. Compared to similar rackets, I personally feel that the double hole grommets do indeed add power, spin and increase the sweet spot (as advertised) - as compared to standard sized grommets. Yes, there is a just a slight loss of control, but not enough when compared to the gain in power and spin that I get. I hope the details help. I didn't comment on the graphics, because to me, graphics are graphics…..some years, you love them…..some years, you don't.
     
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  5. Mike.Killion

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    Triple B -

    FYI. I also have contacted Wilson in Chicago to update and change their website. If you go to the wilson/tennis website. The specs on the new 95L racket still says double hole grommet technology. I think their web master simply copy and pasted the specs from the '12-'13 BLX team racket over to the new 95L version…..that's not the case. The specs are almost identical (weight, balance, 16x18, thickness, etc.). The only two changes are the increased in stiffness/flex and the removal of the double hole. Hopefully, the wilson website will be updated within a few weeks. Good luck. Hopefully, you'll be able to demo the 95L soon and make your own decision. If you play the six-one team as is (meaning you don't do alot of customizing with adding weight), then you might be happy with the new 95L. You'll absolutely need to compare your current team racket with the new 95L racket (but make sure to get your strings in it first to get a closer comparison in performance). If the 95L is lacking power and/or spin, you may have to lower the tension in the 95L by 2-4 lbs. to get closer to performance. The double holes in the '12-'13 BLX Team allows for slightly greater string movement (more power, more spin, increased sweet spot).
     
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  6. TripleB

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    Mike.Killion,

    I appreciate you taking the time to give an in depth comparison of the two racquets. Great stuff!!!

    I just ordered three of the Wilson Six.One Team BLX with three different string set ups: Tour Bite 1.20/Gosen AK Control 1.24, Cyclone 1.20/Forten Syn Sweet 1.20, and Cyclone Tour 1.20/Volkl Classic Gut 1.25.

    I'll give you an update once I've had a few trips out to the courts with them (which may be a couple weeks, my 6 year will have his tonsils removed this Thursday).

    Again, I appreciate all the input!!!

    TripleB
     
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  7. tlm

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    What do you mean by double hole grommets? I have been using the 2012 team for a while and I don't see any difference in the grommets. There is nothing in the specs that say anything about double hole grommets. However the new models have in line grommet holes which I have no idea if this makes any difference or not.
     
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  8. ednegroni

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    I'm still on the fence whether to switch from my '13 Team to the new version. If it plays the same with a bigger sweet spot, I'll probably make the change.
     
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  9. eurochris

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    Pretty sure a few of us are still curious and interested about 2013 and 2014 versions ! Especially with this issue about different hole grommets and parallel drilling. Any observations or input would be helpful
     
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    Are there any more players out there that have tried the new 95l.
     
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  11. etd

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    New 95L version has more control, touch, and feel. However, the power level is down.

    Feels like the weight distribution is a little more polarized with the new model.

    Volleys are much improved. Serving is better with the old model though.
     
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  12. NickShot

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    Can you buy the grommets for the team version and install them in the 95L?
     
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