Wimbledon 2012 - Murray's date with destiny.

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  1. Fedex

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    Anyone else have the feeling that this is his time?
    Terrible pressure on the poor guy and having his traditional post AO slump certainly doesn't help. Ok not as extreme as usual but he's definitely not the same player we saw in Australia.
    What better time to do it than at Wimbledon though, a few weeks before the start of the London Olympics!
    Or will the pressure make his head explode?
    I think, for some crazy reason, he does it just when you least expect it.
    Any answers welcome.

    Warning - All derisory comments will be cast up when Murray wins Wimbledon.
     
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  2. Sentinel

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    Please lets not start these hype/jinx threads every year. Give the chap a break.
     
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  3. goober

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    If Murray wins a major, I doubt it will be Wimbledon.

    -grass is not his best surface. The top 3 are all better than him on this surface. It is also too easy to being taken out by someone like Isner or other big server on a hot streak.

    - too much pressure

    - would make a great story though if he won this year.
     
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  4. joeri888

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    Come ooon, this is fun.. Let's jinx him a few weeks earlier every year. In a few years time, the day he gets knocked out, we start threads like these. In fact, why not start a thread on 2013 right now?
     
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  5. sportsfan1

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    He needs a consistent run of beating Top 3 before these predictions can be backed up by facts. As of now, he's been losing to Djok and Fed - he's 1-3 (?) against them this year.
     
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  6. Rozroz

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    forget it.
    all England on his back will never make him win it.
    Lendl obvious pressure to "win" through Murray is also not that helpful IMO.
    it's too much pressure especially on this sensitive lad.

    all he needs now is more Murray VS Wimbeldon threads from you :p
     
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  7. monfed

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    The Muzzette will as usual cakewalk to the semis courtesy his joke draw. He'll then tank the semis to prepare for Rogers Cup.
     
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  8. Evan77

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    I'm afraid Murray is not winning W. His biggest problem is that he simply struggling with Djok, Nadal and Roger in slam finals. Yes, he did beat Nadal at the USO semis few years ago, but at W... don't think so.

    If he ever wins a major it will probably be the USO or the AO.
     
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  9. monfed

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    I think Murray's best chance was Wimbledon 2009.
     
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  10. tistrapukcipeht

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    I don't think Murray will ever win a Grand slam with Roger, Novak and Rafa playing their great tennis, no chance.

    It's the big 3 and the rest, now Del Potro is where He was in 2009, he is behind in progress, another 6 months del Po will be a contender again for majors, specially if he gets his fitness in the right track.

    Murray is still vulnerable to some occasion losses in early rounds, but the big 3 are always there.

    If only the big 3 considered a strike to get paid more from the Grand Slam and decided not to play FO, but then He would have all the clay guys to beat him.

    I'm sure if they didn't play the FO, Wimbledon would do whatever it takes to have all of them back, so no chance for him.
     
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  11. batz

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    The boy's from Dundee folks - I don't think I need to add anything more.:)

    I'll say this for you though - you picked a brave time to post it,
     
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    Andy M reminds me of an old country song-when he's hot, he's hot; when he's not, he's not. Good luck!
     
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    Aslong as he doesn't play Nadal he might win...
     
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  14. Mainad

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    Awww..lay off the pressure. IMO his best chance will probably be if he's allowed to fly in under the radar when no-one is really expecting it!

    He's clearly not yet playing to AO semi-final standards. So we'll see how he fares over the clay court season in the next couple of months. If his level improves, then we can start talking about possible chances. If it gets no better than we've seen in the last few weeks or so, then I think we can forget it!
     
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  15. kaku

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    Sure Roger, Rafa, and Novak play great at the slams, but that's what Lendl is there for. Is everybody forgetting how before the AO even started, Murray and Lendl were saying it would take a few months for Murray's game to exhibit changes?

    Delpo is certainly back, but not in 2009 form. Consecutive losses to Fed (all in straight sets I believe) and a beat down by Ferrer.

    Murray has made 5 consecutive semi-finals. Sometimes he loses early in masters, but this is Wimbledon we're talking about.

    Murray is very underrated on clay. He's not as good as Roger, Rafa, or Novak on clay, but that doesn't make him a terrible clay courter. He pushed Rafa to 3 sets at MC, nearly beat Novak at Rome, and played a tough match with Rafa at the FO that he should have pushed to four sets.

    The only member of the big three that Murray has played is Nadal, who has been making wimbledon finals since 2006, bar the one year he didn't play. His results at the last two Wimbledons have been better than Federer, in fact.
     
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  16. celoft

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    He has to avoid Djokovic. And Federer. Even Nadal.
     
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  17. Tenez101

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    If Andy wins Wimbledon, I'm pretty sure the U.K. will shut down for a couple of days.
     
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    Murray cannot win Wimbledon without a forehand. He needs that AO forehand he used in the SF against Djokovic. It would be a step in the right direction.
     
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    Maybe Tsonga too. Tsonga has a power game built for grass and if he's in top gear, Murray might get smashed off the court.
     
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    It will be tough for him. you can literally see his muscles tighten up from all the pressure. That is kiss of doom, right there.
     
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    Murray needs to beat Nadal.....lost to Nadal in 08,10,11 and another one in 12 will be demoralizing.
     
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  22. wy2sl0

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    After playing the match of his career against djoker in ao, he has gone back to Murray 1.0 the pusher. I don't see any promise for him to be winning a masters title soon, never mind a grand slam. This isn't to say it won't happen this year, just that his play is still terrible (compared to the top 4).
    How bad did djoker play in the miami final? Terrible. That is about as bad as he is going to play against Murray, and he still got destroyed in the first set.
     
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  23. RogerRacket111

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    Please quote me but "Murray will never win Wimbledon". His Coach never won one and he tried really hard also. Maybe some other major Djoko, Nadal, and Federer lose.
     
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    If he got to the final, he'd lose in straights to his opponent.
     
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    Oh come on - Murray is 2-0 v Tsonga on grass (Queen's and Wimbledon) and 5-1 overall. Tsonga hasn't beaten Murray since he entered the top 5 in 2008.
     
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    ten deletions
     
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    Let's face it, even if he was double bagelling the top 3 on all surfaces at the Masters events prior to Wimbledon, you'd always expect him to lose agains the top 3 in best of 5
     
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    I guess you mean the top 3, Murray is already in the top 4. He's still in much better shape than he was this time last year or the year before. He's been in 2 finals (Dubai and Miami) whereas last year he didn't even win a match between the AO and Monte Carlo but still finished the year with 2 more Masters titles and 3 more Slam semi-finals!

    I don't think Djokovic was at all terrible in the Miami final. True, he wasn't at his best but he certainly wasn't terrible either. He's certainly played a lot worse against Murray too eg.Cincinnati 2011 final.
     
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    Ivanisevic scenario. Just wait. If one boy believes hard enough, it will be reality.
     
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    Could this actually happen?
    He's had a nightmare of a draw, one day's less rest, rain delays and some more really tough looking matches ahead to reach the final.
    And if he does, will the exertions of getting there leave him with enough energy and strength to compete against, most likely opponent, Djokovic who should be far fresher?
     
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    Murray wins his first slam in 2013, the year that Rafa wins his final 13th and Roger retires. Murrya is not winning any slams until Roger and Rafa have had their fill, and Novak is deterring Rafa's passage while Rafa is blocking Roger.
     
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    I thought he was from Dunblane?
     
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  33. War Safin!

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    The real threat for Murray this year is Tsonga...but even now I have a feeling Tsonga may bend over for Murray as he did in their 2010 Wimbledon quarter-final meeting where, for absolutely no reason at all, Tsonga went away after the second set.
    Tsonga didn't want to be the enemy who ruined Britain's hopes so he didn't put in his best effort. He didn't want to be booed and jeered by the fans for beating their boy. You could see it in his play.

    There's is that possibility that IF, Federer manages to avoi d a straight-sets defeat off a rampaging Djokovic, and wins in 5-gruelling sets, he will then be facing Murray in the final.

    Federer's 7th or Murray's 1st?
     
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  34. batz

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    And the other 4 times he lost to Murray - what happened then?
     
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  35. batz

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    I was talking abot Fedex :)
     
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  36. War Safin!

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    They weren't playing at Wimbledon? [​IMG]
     
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    Lucky no Nadal this time.... Though Ferrer playing tough today!
     
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  38. Fedex

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    Even if Murray gets through Ferrer now he'll have nothing left.
     
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  39. Russeljones

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    Don't spoil it now..
     
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  40. Fedex

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    Ok. I said he'd do it.
    I'll have to stick with it.
     
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    It would be incredible if he does it. He certainly raised his level against a stubborn Ferrer today. I think he has a great chance to at least make the final.
     
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  42. Antonio Puente

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    Either that or he caught the biggest break of his career. :)

    Regardless, I hope he pulls it off.
     
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  43. batz

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    Hey Antonio - when I first started posting here, you were one of Murray biggest critics - do you mind if I ask what has changed your views? Thanks.
     
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  44. Antonio Puente

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    It's like anything - the more you're exposed to someone or get to know someone, you, over time, tend to look at them differently.

    Murray's all right.
     
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  45. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    By reaching a 4th consecutive Wimbledon semi-final, Murray has the opportunity to match Nadal's personal record of 5 semi-finals in 5 consecutive attempts next year. Amazing to think that Nadal (and Murray) could even break Federer's personal Wimbledon semi-final record. :shock:
     
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  46. Fedex

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    We're close now Murray. Very close.
    Bannockburn, the scene of Scotland's greatest victory against all conquering forces, is only a few short miles from Dunblane.
    Murray should stick this on before entering centre court:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rSBYJcG8pg
     
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  47. Agassifan

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    What are you talking about? Fed was in 6 consecutive finals and won 5 straight... not to mention 8 total finals. Do you think Nadal is going to make the semis 7 times in a row starting next year?
     
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  48. mandy01

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    Well, it certainly seemed like destiny for Moutza to reach the final, with Nadal out in R2. I think he's going to be one tough customer to beat.
     
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  49. batz

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    People should pause and give credit to Fedex for this thread - especially given the date it was posted.
     
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    Well done Fedex. I hope Andy wins the final.
     
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