Wise 2086

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  1. g_desilva

    g_desilva New User

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    Hey all,

    I've been stringing on my Gamma 6004 for quite a while now, and decided to make the plunge and pick up a Wise 2086. It arrives tomorrow (woo!), but for those of you who are very familiar with the machine (Irvin??), I would appreciate any pre-use advice you have regarding troubleshooting and things I should specifically watch out for while using the tension head.

    Also, I did pick up the Gamma adapter.

    Best,
    Gayan
     
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  2. rich s

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    I've had a Wise for ~8 years, the 6004 for ~4..... other than the adapter (which you have purchased also) the machine is pretty straight forward to use..... I've really not had to troubleshoot or watch out for anything during regular use.

    I had the load cell go bad a few years ago.... it was pretty obvious that something was wrong because the tension readout was all over the place.

    After calling Wise and sending it in for service, it has been performing without issue.
     
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  3. g_desilva

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    Thanks for the info rich!
     
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  4. seekay

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    Between the easy table rotation on the 6004 and the height of the Wise with the adapter, it's easy to spin a racquet around and smack the grip into your tension head. So try to avoid that.
     
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  5. Irvin

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    Unless you have the 2" riser (Gamma adapter) your racket should clear the tension head. If you have the diablo there is not need for the riser.
     
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  6. djNEiGht

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    just got my 2086 set up on my gamma 602fc. haven't used it yet but i'm excited.

    is there a way to change the volume on the unit or turn it off? i looked on the website and it says there is a feature. no real direction on how to do it though.
     
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  7. Irvin

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    no and no you can turn power off but then it does not work.
     
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  8. djNEiGht

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    The address below goes to "the controls" page and button #2 says "decrease or shut off"

    I'll inspect my 2086 to confirm what model it is. I got it used and it had the Diablo if that says anything about the generation/model I have.

    **********.com/the-controls
     
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  9. Irvin

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    Hummm never used it not sure if mine has that or not and too lazy to go downstairs to look.
     
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  10. Shroud

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    I bought mine within the last month and on it there is a "sound" button which is in the same place as the "count" button in the link you have.

    Turning off the beeps is one of the first things I did!!

    Wish I had known about not needing the adapter with the diablo. Man I dont know if I had an off night but man that adapter made a chump out of me. Usually good at mechanical/ spacial things like that but man it took forever to figure out. It came down to the severe angle the screws go into the wise head. It just didnt seem right. Never had screws go in that steeply. ANyhow I managed to get it done but pretty sure I stripped one screw and well its not all the way in....
     
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  11. djNEiGht

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    I got home really late last night so I didn't look at the 2086 to see what model/generation I have. I think the #2 button my mine says "count". Does yours say "count/volume"?
     
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    Nope, mine says "Sound" and below it it says "Test"
     
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  13. lynnbart

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    I look forward to hearing how the setup works !
     
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    On a side note, which speed is the fastest setting, one or three. What do you guys use?
     
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    I think 3 is, I use it.
     
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    It depends on the string. I pull fast (3) for synthetic gut and multifilaments, but I slow it down (1) for poly and natural gut.
     
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    Actually I just finished stringing with a prince neos 1500 and wise tension head. I'm not sure the speed I use, I think it's the fastest setting and I always use constant pull and the diablo. I've had the wise for around 2 years and never had any issues.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with your mechanical ability, I had the same thing happen to me when I installed the adaptor on my Gamma 6004. The screws go in at the wrong angle and I think it is a manufacturing defect. I never liked the adaptor and fortunately my Wise came with the Diablo. So I got rid of the adaptor after trying it once. The diablo works fine and I really like the 360 degree rotation that the turntable has with it.
     
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    If you decide to try the diablo, make sure you put a small dab of Loctite threadlocker on the screw threads. Without the Loctite or similar product, the entire diablo assembly will become loose in a very short time. I used the blue non-permanent version of Loctite and it has worked very well.
     
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  20. djNEiGht

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    So far so good. Only x2 jobs on it so far. I'll add my review after a few more racquets.

    Thanks again for your help. I have a multifilament that I've been wanting to send you.
     
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    Could you explain why you do this? Curious...that's all.

    I don't know what speed to use for various strings. I've only strung poly on this set up. Will be doing synthetics soon.
     
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  22. Shroud

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    Thanks PG. sorry to hear it wasnt just me!

    I will take another look as i have the diablo but i think i stripped the allen screw and it is pretty much stuck on that adapter. 360 would be nice.
     
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  23. seekay

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    Sure thing. Most poly strings tend to relax as they're being pulled to tension. Pulling more slowly allows the tension head to compensate for some of that tension loss and get the string job a little closer to the reference tension. The string will still lose tension while it's in the racquet, but I do what little I can.

    As for natural gut, I just want to be as gentle as possible with it. The string should be able to handle a faster pull, but I do everything more slowly with gut, so pulling may as well slow down as well.

    Nylon strings and multifilaments quickly pull to tension and (mostly) stay there, so I haven't observed much benefit from pulling more slowly.
     
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  24. lynnbart

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    I'm always ready to try something new. I switched to full poly a month or so ago and for the first time have some wrist pain and have had to switch back to hybrids.

    I kinda regret not adding a Wise to the Gamma machine. That should make a really handy setup...
     
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