Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by BreakPoint, Dec 2, 2009.
Both Tiger and Federer are on Team Gillette after all.
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No poll there? With Tiger's wife lol?
Only with Gavin Rossdale.
I wouldn't blame him if it were with Gwen Stefani, though.
Maybe you should. How is this thread you started any different?
But Henry didn't,so Mirka is safe.
The diff is we know you hate Federer. I was only trying to contrast how different they are, and to show that Roger is a standup guy.
At least Roger is the only tennis player who can be 100% sure his wife won't cheat on him (even if she wanted).
Then you know nothing about Mirka. She's the desirable one in this marriage. She almost married an Arabian prince.
And isn't that what I did here? Look at who voted.
And you're right, I hate Federer and love Nadal.
tiger wood likes a pretty face
federer cares more about personality
Henry's a cheater on the handball, Tiger's a cheater on his wife....Roger, be aware, all good/bad things come in 3s.
C'mon, Arabian princes have hundreds of wives, grouped into various categories. Guess which one Mirka would go to.
I can't undertand why this Tiger Wood story is getting so much attention, or why it's anyone business. He's not a politician, there is no apparent crime committed, and it's not surprising or newsworthy that a mega-celeb cheats on his wife.
Who gives a damn? Why is he even addressing this issue at all publicly? He doesn't owe his fans or anyone else any explanations or any apologies.
The whole thing is nuts.
As for the actual question of the poll, who knows what's in Federer's mind or heart or what his sexual appetites are? There is simply no telling, and the Tiger Wood revelations have no bearing on what he might or might not do himself.
BP is actually an avid Fedfan, I think you're confusing him with someone else lol.
Yeah, lol, I just realized that a few days ago. I only saw his Pete avatar and naturally assumed the obvious ...which wasn't actually true.
nahh he's not a cheater.He's just a football player.That's normal for them.seriously.
How about... No because Mirka keeps him on a short leash and travels with him to tournaments ;-)
He already Haas...
Oh, really? Have you heard of Bill Clinton, Kobe Bryant, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, David Letterman, etc.?
Tiger's fans are the reason he's made over a billion dollars playing golf. Without fans, he'd be nothing but a caddy working at some public golf course for minimum wage. He owes his fans for EVERYTHING that he has.
More like with Wawrinka, :lol:
But seriously, I think definitely not.
Excellent list. Now go back and read my post, and then tell me how all of those men's situations are different from Tiger Woods.
ALL of them have constituents - whether they be voters or fans. Voters keep you or throw you out of office. Fans vote with their pocketbooks. That's why ALL of them had to make public apologies.
No, all of them were either politicians or involved in incidents involving criminal behavior. They were virtually forced to speak out.
Not Tiger Woods. He is a private citizen involved in a non-criminal matter that is nobody's business. I'm not sure why anyone would ask him to speak out, or why he would agree to do that. He owes no one any explanations or apologies.
Tiger's wife is attractive and he cheater on her, Mirka aint attractive so I see no reason why Federer wont cheat on her.
If Tiger Woods wanted his fans to continue to watch him play (both live and on TV), to continue to buy products with his name on it, and to continue to care about him or worship him as their hero, he needed to apologize. Adultery is still one of the seven deadly sins, is it not? That doesn't sit well with many people. No different than robbing a bank or killing someone for many people. Like it or not, he's a public figure, and as such, he owes the public an explanation. He has an image to maintain. Heroes are held to a higher standard. That's the price of fame.
Um...maybe because Federer is not superficial and he actually loves Mirka? :-?
Really? No different, huh?
No, he didn't. That's a myth created by the media and perpetuated by people like you. If he said "This is a private matter and I will not comment upon it ever again" I don't think it would have hurt his career or image, or that kids or whoever cares about him would stop caring about him or buying products he endorses. You really think a golf fan is not going to watch the world's greatest golfer play on TV because he cheated on his wife and didn't offer a public apology?
Not to mention making an apology hardly makes the issue all better. After all, you say "many" view adultery as in a league with murder, so why would people suddenly say "Oh, he issued an apology? Then I love him again! And heck, if O.J. would only apologize for that dang murder, I'd love him too!"
He should have kept his mouth shut. He's not an elected official and this is not a criminal matter. I think he was poorly advised here, and the reason he was poorly advised was because his advisors are making the same mistake you are making, which is somehow thinking this incident is in a league with Spitzer or Kobe or those other scandals and thus calls for a similar response. It is not. It is an entirely private matter involving a private citizen.
He absolutely does not owe the public an explanation. If you want to argue that offering an explanation is a smart PR move, that is one thing. But he certainly has no obligation to tell the public anything about his private life.
What next, demanding Tiger reveal his favorite sex positions and porn sites because he's a public figure and people might find that interesting as well?
if she wasn't attractive to him then why would he marry her and have children with her and be with her together in every tournament?
Again you prove your exceptional trolling skills.
Adultery is a crime. There's speculation he's cheated on his wife.
Tiger Woods makes his money by appealing to the public, that makes him a public figure. Without the public, he's nothing! Thus, kids have a right to know if the hero that they look up to and hope to emulate is really a slimeball that cheats on his wife while she was 7 months pregnant with his child without any remorse at all. Do you really think most women around the world are holding him in as high regard as they did a week ago? If so, you are sorely mistaken. Apologies and showing remorse goes a long way with women.
That "speculation" went out the window with the events of today. He's clearly guilty of adultery and has admitted as much in his public apology.
No, it's not.:|
Doesn't necessarily mean he finds her particularly attractive or that he wouldn't cheat on her. And I think the poster was trying to say that at least Tiger can try and resist temptation by saying 'hey, I'm married to a hot model!" while Federer can not.
Not that any of this has much to do with whether either of these guys would cheat on thier wives. Much more complex than that.
I don't know what the attraction is towards Woods, I know he has the fame and money but he doesn't exactly have Hollywood good looks, the other member of the Gillete 3 Thierry Henry is the best looking.
Yes, it is. Adultery is a crime in Florida, and in about half of the states in the U.S.
You can spend 6 months in jail for adultery in Florida.
attractive doesn't mean only in a physical way.When you love someone you end up finding them attractive as a person both as character and appearance.
At least that's what I most people do.:?
wow!!:shock: :shock: :shock:
I think it's also a crime in Saudi Arabia.Look you have many in common after all!
If I were a betting man, I would not put my money on someone in Federer's position being exclusive to his wife for the rest of his life, although it is possible. He has been in this relationship since his teens already. Now everything seems fine while he is in the middle of his career, but 10 or 20 years from now or later, when things start to slow down and boredom looms, anything could happen.
This is crazy.:shock:
Amazing. Even fornication is illegal. Obviously, these laws are no longer enforced, but are old statutes left from a more puritanical age.
In Michigan adultery is punished with life sentence!!!!!:shock:
"JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A Jacksonville woman recently had her husband arrested for what many people regard as a questions of morality, not legality -- adultery.
However, in the state of Florida, adultery is a criminal offense.
Florida law states, "Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second-degree."
I think you mean marriage is punished with a life sentence! :wink: :lol: LOL
Thierry, unshaven member of the Gillette trio, looking like [and dressed like] the hipster bike tech at my LBS. They could be twins. With different watches, LOL.
Well, we need to stop putting all the great athletes up on a pedestal. Armstrong cheated on his family. Now this with Woods not honoring his wedding vows. Jordan's gambling. Andre's use of a hard drug. While I'm not shocked by any of it, it's a sad reminder that we're all human (yes, even superathletes with multi-million dollar deals).
A couple of thoughts:
Honoring wedding vows and living cleanly used to be expected. Now, someone is a great guy or a standup guy if he sleeps exclusively with his wife.
I don't buy the 'rigors of fame' thing, at all. There is temptation everywhere (even for us regular guys).
Last night, I did ask my wife if maybe Lance and Tiger must have married the wrong women......and I asked her what those women must have done to make their husbands look elsewhere for female companionship? Awful. Naturally, I kept a straight face, she got a little heated, then she got it and laughed.
Seriously, though, they live in a world surrounded by yes-men and women. I don't admire anything about them but their athletic skills and their work ethic. I think their personal indiscretions are huge news because the people make it so .... and we put on false airs of superiority. Fans love to worship a star, then they love to stomp on him when he falls.
What's better? Don't hold them up so high in the first place? Or expect the best conduct and be outraged at the worst?
I don't know. But, it's a nice lesson for the rest of us about fidelity, faithfulness and a simple/clean life.
News flash. Roger already sleeps with 5-6 different women on tour. Mirka looks the other way, cause she loves him and needs the money.
Lol. i'm pretty sure she's got a big bank without Federer anyway.
But seriously, Federer is loaded, he could have chosen any girl and he chose Mirka - which probably means that he is in love with her.
I would actually rate Federer though if that was true.
Chicks like talent. Never forget that. Tiger is the best at what he does, the top dog, and that alone will bring in the women.
I'm sure Federer finds Mirka attractive in many ways. I'm betting Tiger finds his wife attractive in many ways too. What does this have to do with anything?
I love pizza. Doesn't mean it's the only food I want to eat for the rest of my life.
It's possible. Even a regular guy can find a woman who tolerates cheating, and I assume it would be even easier for a rich celeb to find one like that.
Not sure where Mirka's fortune comes from, but in any case, none of this stuff matters much when it come to cheating. Guys cheat on women they love all the time.
He makes SOME of his money appealing to the public. But remember, he's not just an endorser -- he's the world's greatest golfer. He doesn't need to be in the good graces of the public to make money off of his sports skills.
Secondly, you have not demonstrated that the public would refuse to buy his products if he had not issued a public apology -- or that they now will in the wake of his apology.
Where do you come up with this stuff? The "kids have a right to know" about the status of his marriage and personal life? Says who?? I would not give my child that message, and I would hope you wouldn't. either.
I'm not sure how many women care much about Tiger Woods, and of those who do, I'm not sure how many view him any better now that he has offered an apology for PR reasons.
Would professional golf even exist if NOBODY watched? The reason ANY pro sports even exist as an industry is because of the fans. Without fans tuning in on TV or buying tickets, there's no money. Sponsors would not sponsor a sporting event if nobody watched. The public is where pro athletes get all of their money.
The kids want to know that their hero is not an a-hole. By apologizing, he shows that he's remorseful, and made a mistake in judgment like any human being. This draws empathy and compassion from his fans and helps them to understand. By not saying anything, it was like he was saying to his fans - "Yeah, I cheated on my wife when she was pregnant and can screw anyone I want anytime because I'm a superstar and better than all of you so I can get away with anything I want to. So f***ing what? So p*ss off because I don't give a cr*p what my fans think."
Not good for his image, is it? He would have lost even more fans by not saying anything.
You must not understand women very well. Apologies count a lot with women. They want to know that you are remorseful, contrite, and regret what you did and that you'll never do it again. That goes a long way with most women.
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