Worst ass-kicking in a GS finals

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  1. luckyboy1300

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    my candidates would be the 1984 wimbledon final between mcenroe and connors, mcenroe won 6-1, 6-1, 6-2; and the 2004 us open final federer vs hewitt 6-0, 7-6, 6-0. i know there would have been much worse in the women's side but i'm not a close follower of wta so i leave them up to you guys.
     
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    Serena sure made Masha look bad at the 2007 Aus Open.
     
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    gotta agree with that one
     
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    Maybe 74 Connors over Rosewall: 6-1, 6-0, 6-1?
     
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    Like, wasn't Rosewall in the finals 20 yrs apart?
     
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    Yep, I don't think there's been a worse thrashing. Connors was simply unstoppable in '74. The pundits of the time wanted the T2000 outlawed from the game due to the amount of power Connors was able to generate. Looks like they were right... :)
     
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    Seems they slowed Jimbo down another way, Har-tru.
     
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    Worst: Graf d Zvereva, 6-0, 6-0 French Open Final, not sure what year
     
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    Would definitely have to be Graf d. Zvereva 6-0, 6-0 French Open final 1988 in 32 minutes. That would probably hold the record as the quickest final as well.
     
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    Zvereva looked completely spooked by Graf in that match. She really showed no confidence and did not bring her real game at all.
     
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    Seriously 32 minutes?? Thats insane.
     
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    Shoulda brought her partner, Gigi. Saw her playing dubs less than 6 ft from my seat. Only 2 fans at the Palace of Auburn Hills, 2 am.
     
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    34 minutes according to the commentators: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DbJAKPue20

    The only other 6-0, 6-0 in a Grand Slam final was at Wimbledon in 1911.
    The Roland Garros final of 1977, Vilas - Gottfried, was the second biggest trashing in the open era on the men's side, 6-0, 6-3, 6-0.
     
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    Yes, the Graf victory without a doubt. (I saw the thread title, and it immediately sprang to mind - on reading the thread I saw others had the same thinking.)

    This was no "normal" 6-0 6-0 with a couple of chances or luck that went against the loser. This was an ass-whipping of note. If there could have been a worse score than 6-0 6-0, it would have been that worse score.
     
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  17. stormholloway

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    Federer thrashed Hewitt pretty handily back at the 2004 US Open. This was against a two time slam champion and former number one.

    6-0, 7-6, 6-0
     
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  18. ckthegreek

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    I watched that match. Graf didn't know what to do. She felt embarassed.
     
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    Agassi put a hurt on Rainer Schuettler in the 2003 Aussie Open Final.
     
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    Federer/Hewitt was the worst thrashing I've seen. Some people watched that match in awe, I watched in disgust. I don't mind seeing Fed destroy helpless opponents in the early rounds, but not in the friggin' US Open Final. Not when Agassi took him to 5 sets in the quarters. Hewitt was just useless.
     
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    Bad result but Rosewall's 'thrashing' was mainly due to his 39 year old self not being unable to recover quickly enough after his long 4-set semi win over Newcombe, same as he couldn't recover after his 5-set win over Smith at Wimbledon that year. Little doubt Connors was going to win but the result was as much about his opponent's fatigue as his own level of his play. Same could be said about Graf's 6-0, 6-0 win over Zvereva. An absolute massacre and no doubt about the winner but it's fair to say the score was dictated by Zvereva's stage fright.

    As far as I'm concerned, the absolute worst beatings in a GS final are;
    1) Lew Hoad's 6-2, 6-1, 6-2 win over Ashley Cooper at the 1957 Wimbledon. I believe it was the quickest final since the challenge round was abolished and Hoad actually gave Cooper 1 game in the second set because he didn't want him to be embarrassed by losing a set to 0 during a Wimbledon final.

    2) John McEnroe's absolute hammering of Jimmy Connors at the 1984 Wimbledon, 6-1, 6-1, 6-2. Connors was only 32 at the time, had won the US Open the year before, Wimbledon two years earlier and was the number 2-3 player in the world for the entire year. He was fortunate to win 4 games.

    3) French Open 1978, Borg decimated Vilas, the reigning champion, 6-1, 6-1, 6-3.

    4) Federer's win over Hewitt at the 2004 US Open. No excuses there, just one guy dominated the other.

    5) Hewitt's win over Sampras at the 2001 US Open, 7-6, 6-1, 6-1. After the first set, which Hewitt never looked likely to drop, it was a slaughter.

    6) 1989 Australian Open, Lendl bt Mecir 6-2, 6-2, 6-2. Didn't just beat him but completely broke his spirit.

    A couple of other 'floggings' were
    1) 1983 Wimbledon, McEnroe's 6-2, 6-2,6-2 win over Chris Lewis
    2) 1977 French Open, Vilas beating Gottfried 6-0,6-3, 6-0
    3) 2003 Aus Open, Agassi bt Schuettler 2, 2 and 1.

    Although those were huge wins/losses I don't include them as the difference in standard between the two players was so great that the scores were relatively close to what you'd expect.
     
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    Agree! And Vilas d. Gottfried in RG 77 too!
     
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    Agree too!!!
     
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    I remember that 84 final, McEnroe was my favorite and Connors was my best friend and playing partners favorite. I had a good day and we were up at the courts early that day for a Wimbledon final:)
     
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    You're right. Vilas conceded only three games, but was a much better player on clay.
     
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    Can't believe no one's mentioned Edberg over Courier, '91 USO

    Esp since Courier hadn't lost a set going into the final.
     
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    ferrero vs. the legendary martin verkerk in the '03 French final was quite the beating. it was amazing the players verkerk took out to get to that match.
     
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    That USO final 2004 was brutal.The way Hewitt was playing that year i was really shocked by the USO final,I don't think Hewitt lost a set getting there.
     
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    Verkerk is now playing Futures and hes ranked about 600ish. Hes been losing early in them.

    Its kind of sad.
     
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  31. kimbahpnam

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    I'd want my money back.

    I'd like to see the press conference after that match.

    If it's any consolation, the commentator said "at the 34 min. mark, it's championship point" or something to that end...so it was a little longer :)
    Zvereva didn't even say anything to the crowd
     
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  32. scotus

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    Zvereva played very well up until the final, and then walking into the stadium with Steffi Graf, all the pressure just hit her.

    She looked like a deer in headlight. She couldn't move or hit at all. The poor girl is probably still having nightmares about that match.
     
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    Petr Korda's thrashing of Marcelo Rios in the 1997 AO final was also quite embarrassing: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2. It looked like Rios wasn't even trying. That was the only GS final he ever reached. Should have known better.
     
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  34. Pro Staff Pete

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    Yeah man 2 bagels in a GS final against a guy who knows what it takes.. insane.
     
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    Ouch! Watch the video, Steffi is creaming the ball. Zvereva never had a chance.

    Second (in the modern era) goes to Connors over Rosewall at the 74 US Open. (I give much credit to Rosewall for even getting to the finals at age 40!!)
     
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  37. boredone3456

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    I agree with grafs 6-0 6-0 defeat of zvereva at the french...I think its the last ever double bagel in a womens singles final...maybe even one of the, if not the, only one to have happened?
     
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  38. 2 Cent

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    Serena put a hurtin' on Sharapova in last year's Australian Open Final.
     
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  39. luckyboy1300

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    isn't pete the one who won the 1997 AO? i think his opponent there was moya.

    edit: yep indeed, the match between korda and rios was on 1998.
     
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  40. chaognosis

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    I would agree with AndrewD that the 1957 Hoad-Cooper match at Wimbledon was probably the most memorable thrashing of the post-WWII era. Some older finals need to be considered as well. Just as legendary as the '57 final was the 1932 victory of Ellsworth Vines over Bunny Austin 6-2, 6-2, 6-0; this was the most spectacular performance of Vines's career and the reason many players, experts, and fans long mantained that he was the best player ever "on his day" (an accolade later generations would bestow upon Hoad). Still, I really feel that the biggest mismatch in tennis history was earlier still, from an era even avid tennis aficionados rarely speak of... the 1881 Wimbledon final between the Rev. (later Canon) J.T. Hartley and Willie Renshaw. This was only the fourth Wimbledon, and Hartley was the last of the truly garden-variety champions of tennis's infancy. Despite the fact that Hartley had won the tournament the previous two years, thus becoming the first person to win multiple titles there, in '81 he was steamrolled by the game's first superstar 6-0, 6-1, 6-1 in only 37 minutes, the shortest three-set final in tennis history as far as I know. Hartley later said in an interview with A. Wallis Myers that he was in fact quite ill at the time, but admitted that he would have stood no chance against Renshaw under any conditions. If you are looking for the one moment when real tennis greatness first burst upon the court, the 1881 final was certainly that.
     
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    Wow, a 34 minute grand slam final, you'd feel really disappointed to be a spectator!
     
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  42. Chauvalito

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    You have got to be kidding me. 32 minutes...ridiculous.
     
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    Was this back when the reigning champ had to play only one match to defend his title against the played-through challenger?

    Yes. Here's the answer: "Up through 1921, the winners of the previous year's competition (except in the Ladies Doubles and Mixed Doubles) were automatically granted byes into the final round (then known as the challenge round). This led to many winners retaining their titles for successive years, as they were able to rest while their opponent competed from the start of the competition. From 1922, the title holders played through from the start of the championships."
     
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    That's right. As you can imagine, the issue of the challenge round became a source of great controversy, particularly in the early 20th century. For example, some argued that this policy gave the reigning champion an unfair advantage, as he came out fresh in the final against a fatigued, worn challenger (many argued that this at least partially explained H.L. Doherty's three-set victory over Brookes in 1905). On the flip side, some argued that this policy actually gave the challenger the advantage, as he would emerge from the tournament "hot" and "in the zone" against an opponent with no real match play under his belt (this was the argument of Wilding, whose four-year run as champion was broken by Brookes in 1914). Both sides agreed, though, that the challenge round needed to go, and so it did. The great Tilden was the last player to benefit/suffer (depending on your view) from the challenge-round policy at Wimbledon.
     
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  45. bluetrain4

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    I'd add Graf's 1992 6-2, 6-1 drubbing of Seles at Wimbledon.

    I know it was a best surface/worst surface matchup, but given the quality of the opponent, it's still impressive, especially considering that Seles won the other 3 Slams that year.
     
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    Not really, he beat Borg in 76' at the USO final on har tru..
     
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    this one gets my vote. ;)
     
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    Some others of note ( I put in bold the real shockers): RG: Evert vs Morazova 6-1,6-2 in in '74; Evert vs Turnbull 6-2,6-0 in '79; Evert vs Rucici in '80 6-0, 6-3 and vs Jausovec '83 6-1,6-2; Navratilova vs Evert 6-1, 6-3 ; Henin vs Piero 6-1,6-1;Wimbledon: King vs Goolagong 6-3,6-1 in '72 and then she beat her again 6-0,6-1 in '75, Evert vs Mandlikova 6-2, 6-2 in 81, Navratilova vs Jaeger 6-0, 6-3 in 83; Australian: king vs Court 6-1, 6-2 in 68, Goolagong vs Goulay6-3, 6-0 in '77, US Open: Evert vs Goolagong 6-3, 6-0 in 76; Evert vs Mandlikova 6-3, 6-1 in 82 and finally Navratilova beating Evert 6-1, 6-3 the following year.
     
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  49. crawl4

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    this isnt the worst thrashing but 2002 wimbledon.. hewitt's 6-1, 6-3, 6-2 victory over nalbandian in under 2 hours was pretty convincing
     
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  50. downey stringing master

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    cljysters has done the same in 27-33 i think
     
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