Worst band ever: REM or Chili Peppers?

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Worst band ever?

  1. R.E.M.

    35.1%
  2. Red Hot Chili Peppers

    70.3%
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  1. BigServer1

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    This. This. This. This. This.

    Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys literally changed how music was recorded and produced, and they used harmonies in a totally different way than any other mainstream group was at that time. Lush, continuous, multipart harmonies instead of the occasional counter melody or single harmony on a chorus, etc.
     
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    Red Hot Chili Peppers isn't a bad band at all.
     
  3. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    don't bother engaging with the non-musician baby boomers on teh beatles.

    because they had never heard of all the people the beatles listened to they think the beatles invented it all.

    you can not convince them otherwise and facts and examples just make them angry.

    people like the Beach Boys, Hendrix and even Cream were far more inventive and interesting at the time, of course.
     
  4. chrischris

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    Both bands are good.
     
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    Heycal ~ Bon Jovi

    heycal, I expected better from you. WORST band ever?

    I mean, given the above, am I'm then to assume you'd put the ultimate guido posseur Jon Bon Jovi (better known as Jon Bon Guido) above REM and/or the Red Hot Chilli Peppers? *gives pause*

    If you can somehow stomach this (for comparative purposes) here's an early Chill Peppers number, before they got "big-big"

    Besides the *cough* 'positive' anti-drug message (thanks for the 'PSA' Anthony K. .... oh and nice 'tracks'...lol), name me one--ONE!--song by Bon Guido that's better than this? If nothing else, Jon Bon Guido would've been too vaingloriously self conscious to suggest making out with his guitarist in a video (0:32 sec.):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdo2khcCa70

    Bon Jovi....holysnakes, I'd have never thought heycal.

    Hey who else ya like?....lemme guess: that greasy lizzard singer from Journey? ...REO Speedwagon? :)


    Holding off on the rant about the stupidity of the "fedfanboy-vs-rafatards" (Beatles/Beach Boys) fab four flamming. to be continued...
     
  6. tricky

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    Brian Wilson was the JS Bach of the pop song; the way he arranged harmonies, devised "pure and easy" melodies, and used found sounds became an instruction manual for an entire generation on how to write pop symphonies.

    Also worth noting that the Beach Boys were the first pop band to evoke an era-specific vision of Southern California, later on followed by bands like the Doors, Eagles, Steely Dan, X, Guns and Roses, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    It can be argued that the influence of the Beach Boys (like Scott Walker) was much stronger in the UK than in the States. You have the Beatles and Who, but you also have newer bands like the Jesus and Mary Chain and Spiritualized.
     
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    The National play kinda cool music if you are 'moody'
    I find that old rock bands like Def Leppard , Budgie , Deep Purple and Led Zep sound better and better as 'music' seems to have become a complacent , repetitive undertaking overly dependent on showing a fast turnover.
     
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    Brian Wilson has a much better slider than Paul McCartney.
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    His brother, Grigori, also had a good slider, according to many women.
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    Generation X was also a band. A fine one too at that. Fostered Billy Idol.
    'Night of the Cadillacs' rocks . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WvpHzg5QQo&feature=related
     
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    Nickelback = WORST band ever to reach the charts
     
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    I think that you meant Creed, Nickleback, Seether, and Flyleaf.
     
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    Oh, and Five Finger Death Punch.
     
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    Who are they? An extended business venture?
     
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    They're all the same band, as far as I'm concerned.
     
  15. heycal

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    These are some of the exact songs I think of when I cite them as horrible!

    No, no. Of course Bon Jovi and especially Journey are worse. But I feel everyone already knows they suck, whereas REM and RHCP are mystifyingly beloved in otherwise respectable circles.



    I'm a huge Doors fan, but I don't consider them to be part of that era-specific southern California vision thing. (Yes, I know they were, in fact, from Southern Calfornia and that era, but they don't sound like it really. It's a long way from "Good Vibrations" and "Life in the Fast Lane" to, say, "The End".)

    As for the Beatles, OF COURSE they were the greatest band ever, followed by the Stones. And it's not about innovation or originality per se. It's simply that they wrote and recorded dozens of amazing songs, as did the Stones.

    It's like this, boys: the Beatles and Stones produced a huge volume of great songs, while the second tier top bands -- everyone from Led Zeppelin, Floyd, the Who, etc. -- only produced a few great songs each.

    Not sure where the Beach Boys, or the pre-disco Bee Gees for that matter, fit into all this, because both were amazing and recorded many great songs, but rest assured The Beatles were BY FAR the greatest band ever. (And I'm not even the biggest Beatles fan there is. It's that I can't deny the obvious.)
     
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    I just wanted to add that The Beatles are overrated hacks.

    OK, carry on.............
     
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    Neil Young.
     
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    lol, and in the end he turned out to be a beatles fan..

    what a joke, he probably even thinks they were 'innovative'
     
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    Their worst album was Dark Side of the Moon.
     
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    Hehehe Beatles.......... Burger King is haute cuisine:)
     
  21. heycal

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    Of course they were innovative. And I wouldn't say I was a "fan" as much as acknowledging the obvious.

    Perhaps so. But it remains Pink Floyd's best album.

    What, is there a rock/pop band you think is better? I might entertain an argument that the Rolling Stones come close, but that's really about it.
     
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    Yeah, you like to make arguments, that we know:)
    Let's just laugh and scoff at your choices, it's more entertaining that way, for me at least:)
     
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    Both are a thousand times better than The Beatles!!!

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    I hate Lynnard Skynnard because he hates Neil Young
     
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    Several things wrong with this statement. Lynyrd Skynyrd (note spelling) is a group not a he. Young actually publicly stated that he was a fan of Skynyrd's music. The front man for Lynyrd Skynyrd wore a Neil Young t-shirt of one of their album covers:

    http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Lynyrd-Skynyrd-1977-Street-Survivors.jpg

    This appears to be mutual respect, despite the lyrics of their songs.
     
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    Purple Haze was OK though.

    Smoke on the water and fire in the sky.
    Smoke on the water...
     
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    I would love to see a band the combines Neil Young, Prince, and Skinny Jeans.
     
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    But the best has to be 'God save the Queen' by The Osmonds.
     
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    Like for all arts, appreciation of music is subjective. People are going to listen to what makes them happy. Personal tastes are highly variable so to argue about which band/music is better is the equivalent of two grade-school children going:
    "Nuh-uh"
    and
    "Yuh-uh"
     
  30. r2473

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    "Better" is completely subjective?
     
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    i am surprised too. heycal went with the 'universal' choice by citing beatles as best band. what a joke.
     
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    In term of tennis, the Beatles are like pushers who win a lot. People don’t like them just because…
     
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    What's all this about ... I am lost ? I grew up listening to Bach and reading Shakespeare
     
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    I grew up reading Beowulf and listening to the wind.
     
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    What's all this about? It's all about the same type of "my favorite band/pro" Fed vs Rafa sniping and backbiting you see in the Pro Player section. :neutral:

    Summed up: While Brian Wilson is a lunatic genius (no argument here), John "Tomorrow Never Knows" Lennon and McCartney (when they weren't writing and giving away #1 hit tunes for others to record, e.g. Peter & Gordon) were mere hacks who paled in comparison. Geo. Harrison couldn't play slide guitar worth a lick let alone pen a tune...and as for Ringo (the "dumb" Beatle) Starr, well, when it comes to recording hit songs, I guess 'it don't come easy' either.

    Speaking of Ringo, some trivia: name of The Rolling Stones' 2nd released single?
     
  36. r2473

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    I just wanted to add that the Beatles are overrated hacks.

    Carry on...........
     
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    Didn't this hack just get kicked out of his own band?

    Brian Wilson is a David Lee Roth wannabe.......

    When it comes to #1 hits, the Beatles don't even rank as high as Dolly Parton. Talk about friggin' hacks.

    Most number-one hits


    1. George Strait 59

    2. Madonna 52

    3. Conway Twitty 49

    4. Michael Jackson 43

    5. Elvis Presley 41

    6. Ronnie Milsap 40

    7. Charley Pride 39

    8. Merle Haggard 38

    9. Dolly Parton 37

    10. Beatles/Reba McEntire 36


    by the way, most (but not all) of these numbers are made up :)
     
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    Wonder why that reminds me of King Crimson !
     
  39. Dedans Penthouse

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    I am the eggman, they are the eggman, I am the MATERIAL GIRL, koo-koo-ka-chew-ka-koo-

    The #1 hit reference in my post was presented in a "give it away" sense and didn't also mean to include 'niche' (C&W) charts.

    That said, Madonna??... Granted, Lennon's vocals on "Day in the Life" can't hold a candle to Madonna's incandescent whine on "You Must Be My Lucky Star" but, er, Madonna?.....is that really you r2473?....Madonna?...you goin' with that? :confused:

    You must be my lucky star,
    because you shine on me wherever you are


    ^^^ breath taking.....speaking of wordsmithing and, ... using the same # of #1's list of yours from above:

    Madonna vs. Bob Dylan :?:
     
  40. r2473

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    Madonna is a genius.

    Dylan might rank as high as a group like Abba.

    Best part is, I can't be wrong. No matter what I say. No matter how stupid

    We're just knocked out.
    We heard about the sell-out.
    You gotta get an album out.
    You owe it to the people.
    We're so happy we can hardly count.
    Everybody else is just green,
    Have you seen the chart?
    It's a hell of a start,
    It could be made into a monster
    If we all pull together as a team.

    And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
    We call it Riding the Gravy Train.


    I'm not sure if you can tell Dedans, but I'm agreeing with you. Not all "#1's" are created equal and most of the best music never even sniffs the billboard or any other popular chart for that matter
     
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    I can assure you it was purely unintentional. ....:)
    Do you like Jethro Tull by the way?
     
  42. r2473

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    The band is just fantastic,
    that is really what I think.
    Oh by the way, which one's Pink?
     
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    Who is Pink ? she/he seems way overrated imo.
     
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    that's a joke. Murmur was one of the most influential albums of the eighties, and a poignant masterpiece, not to mention Document, probably even better.
     
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    Oh! you want worst band ever? Easy.......... Matchbox!! :twisted:
     
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    The lunatic .... is in my head ....

    Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel
    And they sent us along as a surrogate band
    We're gonna find out where you folks really stand.
     
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    Nice to see all the Beatletards pile up here all of a sudden. Beatles sold their disks because of no competition, while Madonna had to contend with some of the all-time greats like CCCatch, Michael Jackson, and Bad Boys Blue, in their respective primes.
     
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