Worst band ever: REM or Chili Peppers?

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Worst band ever?

  1. R.E.M.

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  2. Red Hot Chili Peppers

    70.3%
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  1. heycal

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    Sure. And then they'll turn around and admit that the Stones and Beatles were better.

    Zeppelin has maybe half a dozen great songs, including Misty Mountain Hop. Beatles and Stones have dozens. It's like comparing Agassi to Federer.
     
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    Lol, no way..half a dozen? Try dozens and dozens and each was unique too from Led Zeppelin 1 all the way through In Through the Out Door. They knew they were the best too. No one could do what they did as a band. Bonham was an incredible drummer. Plant was amazing as the front man. Page was a guitar god and John Paul Jones could play anything and was off the charts technically. Basically, each was the best at his craft. You can't say that about any other band. They were the greatest ever Heycal, in Gonzalez, Borg, Laver, Federer, Sampras territory. Agassi..off the radar when it comes to that. They are a modest bunch. Page about their early reviews.."I think it went over their heads"..Elvis about Zeppelin..'I wanted to meet this band that was selling more tickets than me"..The Beatles were the best band of the 1960's, while Zeppelin was the best band that emerged from the 1970's in my opinion. As far as the "experts"..

     
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    John Frusciante and Flea are some of the best musicians around about now, for me, especially John - that guy was the reason The Mars Volta - a band that compare to Led Zep and Pink Floyd, declined. Please, The red hot chilli peppers aren't one of these 'fad' emo hardcore bands who you used to like for 5 minutes - they are a proper rock band, not many left after the Volta and system of a down split up, Queens of The stone age are pretty good still (although outdone by at the drive in IMO). Rise Against are still going strong.
     
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    Totally agree. Someone saying RHCP is terrible isn't even worth commenting on, and they clearly haven't heard their non-singles or seen them live.
     
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    check the links I posted, John and Flea made these songs for TMV great IMO.
     
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    Ok I shall. John is just a genius, it's ridiculous how talented he is. Both his songwriting skills and guitar playing. Flea goes without saying. I was lucky enough to meet him twice last year :)
     
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    Let me know what you think.
     
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    Pretty nice acoustic song Anaconda. I bet they've listened to a LOT of Led Zeppelin. They're clearly a talented band. For acoustic guitar, check this out from Zeppelin. Beautiful song from Page and company.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi76yMCXxtQ (Bron Yr Aur)

     
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    Enjoyed it, not usually a fan of instrumental unless it's Buckethead 's Nottingham Lace or Soothsayer solo's, but yes, very relaxing.


    Which was your favourite out of the three songs?
     
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    Glad you liked it. I would go with the third one from them. Thanks.
     
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    Cool, yeah I tend to agree, I used to love the first two songs, although they were the first material ever made, whereas Since We've been wrong was relatively new for how long the band went on for, Very interesting read on the Cottage, indeed, they obviously made their music personal and were able to write and create music relative to where they were in their life and their surroundings, it seems.




    Yes, they did listen to Led Zeppelin and PF, although most of their other influences come from Salsa acts unheard of. You into any current bands?
     
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    Beatles are still badly overrated. Yes. I am trolling.

    -SF
     
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    I liked Inertiatic the best but their style is a little too spastic for me. I can see how people like it though. As for the Beatles... overrated. Their music is better when other people do it.
     
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    I don't like the Beatles, and it's not because I'm 21 and I view it as old music, because I love the Beach Boys, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett etc, I just don't feel anything in what they are doing. In bands, I look for adrenaline, although I appreciate they were able to continuously change their music, they were the best 'merseybeat' band by a long way, but I just didn't like their music (although I accept that they are extremely talented and good).
     
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    Cool, too be honest I can't tell what people would love and hate in terms of their material - they have the Beatles ability to change up their music so you could love other songs which I might not.
     
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    I think they're ok, and definitely brought about a change in their time, but the amount of hoopla and yada yada and madness about them is SOOOOO over the top it's just dumb. Id rather listen to Nickelback :) not even trolling lol. I have more fun going to the dentist than listening to Beatles music.
     
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    You know, I'm really into rock and classic rock, so for me, I have not really liked any rock bands after Nirvana. The Cure and the Smiths were both really good in my opinion, but that's more alternative. I also enjoyed and still listen to some really alternative bands like Ministry and Front 242 from time to time. There was a lot of progressive/cutting edge music that came out during the 1980's for example, but nowadays it's way too electronic only for my taste. None of these bands could hold a candle to Led Zeppelin for me though. That started in high school for me and I still love listening to them these days. Put it this way, I'll be listening to and loving Led Zeppelin when I'm 80+ if I'm still alive and able to.
     
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    Check this out if you like old school rock then, IMO the best rock band from the modern era



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrZ7ew8n5SU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ge6ttcFrvA




    3 of them, including the lead singer, the drummer and the guitarist/lyricist and music creator formed TMV.
     
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    It's ok Anaconda, but I never really liked music from say Rage Against the Machine or say System of a Down..so many bands like that are out these days, but I just don't get into that sound. Just my opinion. If you like really "hard rock", see these tunes from Zeppelin. I'm sure that bands like Iron Maiden and Metallica listened to these a lot in their formative years for example.

    Communication Breakdown

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZNkLyQSZVg

    Immigrant Song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqv4sYKlOSM

    Trampled Underfoot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF1FeSygeXU

    Achilles Last Stand

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMjuACyOpgo

    How Many More Times

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqbuGgt0Us
     
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    I think that this must be a heycal troll thread. These were both very good bands, relatively speaking. I am not a big R.E.M. fan, but think their early music was pretty good.

    A friend of mine was a surfing buddy of Flea about twenty years ago, and I got tickets to several shows and met the guys several times. They were great live, and people went crazy. Also, Flea and the band were really nice guys.
     
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    This and the other comparison to the Beatles in your post pretty much sums it up. If you want to say Zeppelin is the best band of the 1970's, sure, okay. But that's like saying they are the strongest player in the weak half of the draw...

    Sure they can maybe win the 1970's semis, but if they go up against the Stones or Beatles in the overall final, they're gonna get creamed...

    Seen them live? Thank God, no.

    I've never been to the Killing Fields of Cambodia either, but I still know they are a horrible place...



    Exactly!
     
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    Creamed by what measure? How do you define greatness with music? Led Zeppelin could more than hold their own, especially in terms of influencing all rock bands that followed. They had more range than either the Beatles or the Rolling Stones for one thing. The best rock bands of today are trying to play Zeppelin songs, not songs from the Beatles and the Rolling Stones by and large. That says a lot and the Beatles and Stones are not in the same league as Led Zeppelin on many fronts. What bass player on the Stones or Beatles can play with John Paul Jones? How about a drummer like John Bonham? Guitar in the same league as Jimmy Page? Rock singer like Robert Plant? Neither is in the same league as a rock band and it's very debatable if the 60's was in any way superior to the 1970's in terms of music (pop or otherwise) and especially rock music. Zeppelin was already making great music in 1969-1970 regardless. Weak half of the draw how? I wholeheartedly disagree. As Jack Black said, the "greatest rock and roll band of all time..better than the Beatles, better than the Stones.." "Best Band Ever" "The jams of Zeppelin are second to none".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0gDfGb9u0 (Kennedy Center Honors with a great tribute)
     
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    But as far as longevity the Stones are still on tour after 50 years. They may look cadaverous and about to expire any minute. But hey, that how they always looked to me.
     
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    Lol, that is true backbored, but they've done well. They are characters. I'm glad they are still out there and touring. The 2007 Celebration Day concert from Led Zeppelin at the O2 Arena was a big success, but they are not going to be touring again. Those were some very special times when rock music was being played and created in the 1960's-1970's.
     
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    I think these guys look similar.
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    Ha Ha! A bit in those photos..How about these?

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    OMG that first picture is so funny! I needed the laugh. And the last one, who knew except you. Thank you, for taking the time to look them up and post them.
     
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    Lol, you're welcome Backbored. No problem.
     
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    Blood, sugar, sex, magic was beautiful.

    The thing with RHCP though, is that while they're individually all extremely talented, they're crap together (at times).

    Still a lot better than REM.
     
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    That puts me in the mind of this song from Marcy Playground.
    Sex And Candy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KT-r2vHeMM
     
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    That's one of their problems actually. No real range. Strones and Beatles could do all kinds of songs. Not so much Zeppelin...
     
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    No real range? Tangerine and the Rain Song, to blues and hard rock..Country, blues, hard rock..incredible range. They play songs that the Beatles and the Rolling Stones could only dream of pulling off..
     
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    No way! Too funny backbored. That must be Murray, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic in the places of Jones, Bonham, Page, and Plant respectively. They are standing in front of their private Led Zeppelin jet in that photo.

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    Hey cool is cool baby. I think our guys need to grow more hair.
     
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    Backbored, you're right. Led Zeppelin had the rock and roll hair going! Nice find on that picture.
     
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    R.E.M.?!!...Red Hot Chilli Peppers?!! ........... whadda mean Bon Jovi totally blows?!
     
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    Still waiting for the backstory on your oft-mentioned Bon Jovi hatred...
     
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    Never could vibe with Chili Peppers. There music makes me feel weird.
     
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    Someone with your musical ear would be at a loss to wonder why I dislike this charletan? This guido poseur (and by extension, the guido band with HIS name) who out-of-the-box was all about being famous first and foremost--forget the music--with his faux-metal hair b.s. image......then re-invents himself as some faux-alternative trying to pass off "homeland" chops?

    If nothing else, Jon Bon Guido's reedy thin guido voice delivered in his "guido stylings" manner when attempting to sing "Born to Run" with Springsteen during the Sandy concert at MSG was just another stark reminder of this guido poseur's real core (and lack of true rock chops). The clown's a pop poseur in rock clothing plain and simple. Another example of "pop star passing himself off in rock star clothing" (and who would get so ticked off at the NYT music critics for mentioning it) is Billy "Angry Young Man" Joel. Speaking of Billy Joel:

    Q: What's the difference between Billy Joel and the band Great White?

    A: We Didn't Start the Fire

    *gulp*

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    No, no. I understand why you dislike him and the band, obviously. I know they suck too. But I never think about them or post about them. Yet you seem to mention him on a regular basis over the years, and at least twice in this thread, and I'm wondering why.

    I mean, lots of artists suck. So my question for you is, how did Bon Jovi come to occupy this special place in your imagination, your favorite whipping boy for all things rock and pop-related? Is there some sort of interesting backstory to this, some personal connection perhaps?
     
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    But 'We got it goin' on'. He sang so himself.
     
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    Take your time answering. We're not going anywhere.
     
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    Worst band ever: JD and the Straight Shot.
     
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    lmao,neither are in the conversation for worst band ever,but obviously of the two,RHCP is the lesser band...
     
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    Not even close, and they are one of the best live bands of all time.
     
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    Didn't see this thread until now.

    Ive always though U2 and REM were terrible.

    Chili Peppers pre Californication make them better than REM
     
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    REM is bad? Not compared to today's crap music.
     

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