Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Sid_Vicious, Apr 15, 2012.
One of the greatest posts of all time. I nominate this for GPOAT.
Interesting what 5 yrs time will do; Andre of 2000 was more formidable than Andre of 2005. Similarly, Fed was much more potent in 2005 than he is now. Fed is not a great match up for Andre for the reasons you suggest; he can and does mix it up more. Also, in this match Andre was pushing 35 and had an ailing back, so I would not treat it as "typical"...prime to prime, he'd probably win a few off Fed, but Fed would take the majority of the matches.
I'm talking about a peak Fed. Have you ever saw Fed play(not a 30 yr old Fed)?
And only one player(Nadal) doesn't mean it's the entire era. Nadal is the worst match up for Fed in the history of tennis. I don't believe Agassi meant Federer is perfect, but he's the closest. Overall, we measure against the entire field and Agassi is right, because Fed's achievements speak volumes.
It wouldn't have mattered that much even if it was 95 Agassi that 05 Fed was playing.
Roger is simply a bad match-up for Andre.
Another thing is that Agassi's specialty is being the anti serve volleyer of his time, check his 90's record against the s and vers - all except one, and that is because Pete could beat him from the back of the court also.
Agassi would not have even reached Federer often on clay. His FO record between 1992 and 1999:
1994- lost 2nd round to an out of prime Muster (who lost next round to Pat Rater)
1995- lost quarters to Kafelnikov with a bad hip injury
1996- lost 3rd round to Woodruff
1998- lost 1st round to 18 year old Safin
Then after 1999:
2000- lost 2nd round to Kucera
2001- lost quarters to Grosjean
I think where Agassi would have his best success against Federer would be on hard courts, but any kind of hard courts, although probably even more on the slow to medium kind. That is where he would do some real damage to Federer, and more than ****s on this forum will ever admit. Clay he may have had a decent shot when they played, but Agassi was no consistently stellar clay courter and wouldnt have even played Federer much on them. Grass and carpet Federer would be too strong. Agassi's return wouldnt have helped him as much vs Federer who stays back on his serve.
On HCs,yes,he's the second best slow HC player imo. Majority of the HCs are slow HC so why not?
Grass maybe,clay most probably not.
clearly agassi was dressed for the wrong grand slam
uhhh, PEAK Fed was being owned by Nadal...then and now.
Definitely agree, this is the new era of baseline bashers, and those two are 2 of the all-time great baseliners
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