Would I be able to compete in 3.5? (Video)

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  1. latestgood

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  2. latestgood

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    I am the one that's near the camera in the beginning.
     
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  3. kanulondon

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    I cant't see the game point videos friend. . . but from the hitting I it looks like your consistant enough for a 3.5 mashup.

    Remember that in the 3.5 leagues you'll get a large scale of variance. It would be good to perhaps see your serve as if it's weak many 3.5's may crush it

    KL
     
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  4. Tennisean

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    Looks like you've got some decent strokes.

    I would suggest you revaluate whether you want to play tournaments.

    Competition tends to bring the worst out in people, and just hitting tennis is a joy all by itself, which is ruined by turning it into just another contest.
     
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  5. Baxter

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    Ignore this pathetic troll. The first vid is private, but your forehand and footwork are WAY above 3.0 in the second video. If I were you I would play 4.0, as long as your serve isn't horrible, which I doubt.
     
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  6. HughJars

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    Nice footwork and strokes. Replicate that in a match it'll be happy dayz
     
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  7. TimeSpiral

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    Make that match play vid public so we can see it. Rallies look better than 3.0 (3.0 is pretty low level stuff), but match play and rallying are a lot different.
     
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  8. kanulondon

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    Just enter the 3.5's and once you win the leagues play with the 4.0's
     
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  9. You are young. Play 4.0. Train hard. you will improve!
     
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  10. RetroSpin

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    Those look like 4.0 strokes to me, plus he's young and can move.
     
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  11. tennismonkey

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    OP isn't 4.0 but he should play 4.0 leagues and he will quickly rise to the level of his competition. what he shouldn't do is play opponents like the one he plays in his first video who encourages really bad habits like standing there flat footed and loafing around the court.
     
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  12. Devil_dog

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    Based on your rally video, you'll be more than adequate in 3.5s. But like some have suggested, you should probably sign up for 4.0s play. You'll likely be better suited with your abilities. Good luck and have fun!
     
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  13. tennis_ocd

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    League and tournament play are different.... I wouldn't try and jump into a *real USTA* 4.0 league unless you're being asked by a team. ime, individual clubs private "leagues" are quite inflated from what I see in watching USTA play. I'd rate 3.5 and go from there.
     
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  14. TimeSpiral

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    Start off with a Flex League that uses NTRP. Go for 3.5, or 3.5+. Your serve could be an issue at the 4.0 level, imo, but your groundstrokes look pretty good.
     
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  15. Ojibway

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    Play 4.0

    You have good stokes. Sign up for 4.0, you will have more fun. 3.5 players are all over the place and match get pretty ugly. In 3.5, every ball is a different ball and you would win some and lose some. I personally feel you would have lot more fun at 4.0.
     
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  16. Baxter

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    4.0, and get some help on your serve. Your footwork in the rally vid is excellent. You've got the split step down perfectly, which is pretty amazing for a beginner. Did someone teach you that? You can fix a serve, but you can't fix slow and/or awkward. Play a lot of matches and get some lessons and you will be do fine in 4.0 league.
     
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  17. samarai

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    U have one good thing going for u. U are a lefty with what looks like decent pace and spin. Most right handers under 4.0 whos strokes arent refined will have problems with a lefty. U however probably aer used to playing right handed players and dont encounter this discrepancy.
     
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  18. Dimcorner

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    Why do people only put videos of just select points? I mean if you put up a highlight reel then you would look much better than the real level no?

    I know a guy who can't deal with pushers and he says he plays much better when people give him "real" balls. He looses because he lacks a "plan B" style to counter the pushers. Sure his shots look pretty when rallying or on select points but in a match I think you should see at least a few full games (or the score).

    As for the original question of can you compete in 3.5? Sure you can compete.
     
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  19. LeeD

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    Lefty needs to hit with a 3.5, not a 3.0 first and foremost.
    Lefty has strokes to carry into 4.0's.
    Once lefty starts to hit with 3.5's, he'll know where he stands.
     
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  20. TimeSpiral

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    It's worth noting that hitting a tennis ball and competing are not the same thing :twisted:

    And Leed, I'd say he's more of a 3.33333333333333333333333333333334 no?
     
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  21. RoddickAce

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    Strokes look to be at around 4.0 level, match play hard to say because there weren't many rallies of over 3 shots in the highlights (I assume the points cut out were even shorter?).
     
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  22. Ojibway

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    Did not see the game points earlier. You need lots of work on serve to keep the game interesting at 4.0. Your opponent is barely 3.0 so I would suggest start at 3.5.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback. It's an honor even to be in the same sentence as 4.0 players. I know that 4.0 players are D3 college players and I'm sure they'll bagel me.

    I'll start with 3.5 league and see where I stand. I think 4.0 is a stretch but it feels good to know that I'm on a right track.
     
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  24. prostaff_fan

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    I agree. Start with a 3.5 league. You might end up playing with some 4.0s playing below their level even at 3.5. I am in SoCal and even some self-rated 3.5s are really good players.
     
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    I highly doubt a 4.0 team would take OP on.

    Not many 3.5 team would seek him out either. Competitive at 3.5 tournaments? Probably.
     
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  26. TennisCJC

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    I cannot see the video - blocked from youtube at work.

    But, you mentioned you have been playing only 1 year. I would not play 4.0 if you have only 1 year of experience. I have played 5.0 years ago for 1 year, 4.5 for many years when younger, and 4.0 for many years as an old fart. In 4.0, you will run across a fair number of ex-college players and they will clean your clock. Even the guys who didn't play college or higher USTA when younger, will still likely clean your clock at 4.0 as these guys will have developed at least some level of skill and guile that you are very unlikely to have after 1 year of playing and not a lot of competition. There is a big difference in drilling, hitting, or playing fun matches than playing league or tournament matches.

    Start at 3.5. If you are truly ready for 4.0, you will win handily and move up quickly.
     
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    Yeah, you are so right.

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    I agree for the most part here.
     
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    Strokes look like good solid 3.5+ to me but the match points/serve looked pretty shaky and tentative. I'd play 3.5 good and steady until you are controlling those matches...then try playing/hitting with 4.0 dudes to ramp up the challenge.
     
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    Good call. You look like you can more than hang with the typical 3.5 players I know. Focus on playing good quality tennis and you'll be bumped to 4.0 soon imo.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback.
    I joined flexleague and after playing couple 3.5 players, I think I've made a right choice.

    Once we start the rally, I usually control the match and win the points. However, I'm still not used to monster serve that some 3.5 possesses (although their 1st serve is super inconsistent). Everyone's different and some can play ugly(?) tennis.

    Against 3.5 (won 6-2):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Sp2e_0OZg&feature=youtu.be

    Without strong 1st and 2nd serve, 4.0 is a pipe dream at this moment:)
     
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  32. latestgood

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    I'm the that's on the far side of the camera.
     
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  33. kanulondon

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    Can't see video, says Private?


    But well done on the win!
     
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  34. Omg, is that 3.5. Ughhh that guy has the ugliest strokes in the globe, what the hell is he doing on his backhand and his serve made me regurgitate my dinner. Please get the hell out of 3.5 as soon as you can. Can that even be considered real tennis?
     
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    Why do you lob when your opponent is on the baseline? 3.5 is good for now.
     
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    That's a pretty weak 3.5 for my region. Also, why not film a whole game and just edit out the parts in between like the walking back to serve? Quite a few points are missing from the film. Best way to improve is to analyze and work on what you are doing wrong, not what you are doing right.
     
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    You're brave for putting your tennis out here for the TT members to see. Haters are gonna hate, and people will be brutal. My advice: pay the haters no mind.

    Well done, I say to you. Flex Leagues are great fun, and I've found them to be cutthroat competitive (in my area). The thrill of facing a new opponent is great. And with that clip, I was really getting a kick out of watching your opponent and his flamboyant motions: awesome! You meat some real characters out there. I faced a guy who was nearly standing in the doubles alley for his first serve, and his service motion was absurd! But he could serve well (the obvious strategy is a low and short slice return down the line every time! Lol.).

    Keep playing at 3.5 and you'll eventually have a breakthrough--assuming your goal is improvement. Once you start winning 2/3 of your matches, you'll be ready for 3.5+. Then, before long, you'll be in the 4.0's.

    However, focus on your 3.5 game now, and be prepared to lose. The losses will highlight the holes in your game and motivate you to specifically cultivate each experience. As a piece of general advice, if I were to go back and climb through the ranks again, I would have learned to come in and play the net much sooner. It makes life in the sub-4.0's so much easier, because it really disrupts the pushing strategy that is dominant at that level.

    Best of luck to you!
     
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  38. RetroSpin

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    You have much better strokes than your opponent in the video. I agree with Murray, get out of 3.5 and play people at your own or better level.
     
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  39. kanulondon

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    It's not just about strokes. There's a reason why the 3.5 level houses the majority of recreational tennis players!

    Agreed though, those strokes looked ugly but who cares. At this level it's about winning! And a good job the OP did of that too. However you should come across a lot better 3.5's

    KL
     
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  40. sunof tennis

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    Yes, you were certainly a lot better than your opponent. Work on not hitting balls right in the meiddle of the court, especially when you hit them short. Once you get to a 4.0 level, you will start losing all those points.
    I did have to laugh at the comments about your opponent's strokes. That serve was just hideous. Also, not sure why his was trying to hit a jump-kick backhand (which is a pretty advanced shot) when he hadn't learned how to hit a good regular backhand
     
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  41. Tennisean

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    The best advice ever posted here!
     
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  42. jayserinos99

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    Latestgood, are you from Santa Clara? I'm looking for someone to hit with and I'm in Sunnyvale. I'm a 3.5-4.0 looking to get back into singles. You can find my email in the Classifieds section.
     
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    You should be able to take down Jayserinos, I have his Volkl PB10's in Louisiana now...haha
     
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