Would you have ever predicted Hingis's career to have gone this way 10 years ago?

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  1. anointedone

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    Just looking back 10 years ago many were predicting Hingis to be the next all time great of womens tennis, to the one to beat of womens tennis for close to the next decade, and maybe with a chance to become the best ever. Could any of you see the signs then she was a bit of a filler in a transition time of womens tennis and would end up winning only 2 more slams after 1997 and 10 years later be not even a top 10 calibre player. Would you have back then predicted Venus to dominate her from 2000-onwards, and Serena to dominate her from 2001-onwards, as well as Davenport to start winning the majority of their matches from 1998-onwards, and even Jennifer making a miraceleous comeback to beating her 4 times in a row in 2001-2002.
     
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  2. krosero

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    There's not much I can say here, since I barely was watching tennis in the late 90s. But I recently saw the Graf-Hingis FO final, and Hingis went in with the attitude that she was going to win more Slams, and that Graf was done. Actually as of that moment, Graf had one more, and Hingis would win no more. I don't think anyone predicted the second part: that Hingis was already done (presuming she doesn't win anymore).

    Do you mean her two doubles titles after '99? Her last Slam in singles was the 99 AO.
     
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    Yeah it is funny how it all turned out isnt it. She also snarkily said the game was now "too fast" for Graf. Please while herself a complete non-power player was #1, and Coetzer was reaching the top 5 and making 2 slam semis; while Novotna the finesse serve-volley player was becoming a perennial #2 or #3 in the World for the next 2 years. What a completely idiotic statement and I dont even like Graf much.

    Sorry I meant since 1997.
     
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    This is an example of how Hingis had the wrong perception of things, the wrong attitude. I'm not knocking her cockiness, necessarily; a lot of champions are cocky. But there is cockiness, and then there's underestimating your opponents, which is a big mistake. And then there's misperceiving yourself and your opponents: Hingis didn't quite know her own game if she thought she was the new wave of power players.

    And how can you succeed to your fullest potential if you've got the wrong idea about your game? I mean, cockiness is one thing; but specific inability to judge your own game in comparison to others is definitely something that will hold you back.

    And that's ironic, because Hingis is a smart player in a lot of ways. She has the mental tools to be smart about these sort of things. So I don't know what went wrong. I guess what I'm saying is that, while I agree that she benefitted from fallow competition, and that her game was at a certain disadvantage in the power era, she also did not win everything she should have won.
     
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    That is all very true. If she honestly perceived herself as ushering in a new "faster" game that was too fast for a player like Graf, she really did not understand her own game at all in alot of ways. She also did not truly understand the type of field around, the type of condition of some of her opponents, if she really believed those things, and thus this deluded perception of other players did not push her to improve in preparation for the more difficult challenges to come.
     
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    Overall, I like Hingis as a player. I root for her today just because of sentimental reasons if nothing else. She was obviously gifted. And I do think that she had the strongest court sense and anticipation of any player since Chris. I also appreciated the fact that she was such a good doubles player and put those skills to good use in her singles.

    There was no way to know that things would end up as they did. But she's sort of like Jim Courier. Her time at the very top was going to be short no matter what did. She was run over by the same power train that has nearly ruined womens tennis as anything nice to watch.
     
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    I would have predicted her to develop more power and strength as she got older. She did not and we see the results of that.
     
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    Hingis' major problem was that she didn't try to work on improving any of her weaknesses. She always gave me the impression that she felt that what she had to work with was enough for her to dominate the game and for a while it was working, but then the big power girls pushed her right out of the #1 ranking and out of contention for winning majors as well, all because she wasn't willing to change at all. It was as if she had blinders on or perhaps sheer bullheadedness when it came to analyzing her own game and trying to improve her weaknesses (the serve and forehand come to mind) and ultimately it was her downfall.

    For someone who is supposed to be so very intelligent on court, she has always been very shortsighted when it comes to herself and maybe her mother coaching her is part of that problem. I've long thought she could benefit greatly by having someone other than her mother coaching her.

    Hingis has been compared to Evert in the way that she thinks on the court but I don't always see it and since her return I have seen even less of it than before she left. Yes, she does have her moments where she is brilliant on court and very savvy, but she's not nearly as consistent in that regard as some people have claimed her to be.
     
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    I think part of that was the 97 field was so weak, and it was hard for her to tell herself something that she basically was dominant in 97 over a very weak field. So she kept telling herself "well I dominated in 97 and not needing to change or improve this or that, why shouldnt I still be able to".
     
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  10. chazz

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    While all that has been said about Hingis has been true. Let's not forget she did suffer with those foot and ankle problems. If not for her injuring her knee prior to the French Open in 97 and losing to Iva Majoli, she would have won all 4 grand slams that year. I hope Hingis sticks around awhile longer because i do like her game. She may no longer be top 10 material but she's fun to watch play.
     
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    True Story.
     
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  12. 2 Cent

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    to be honest, i always thought Hingis dominance was gonna run short because of all the newer better stronger more athletic players coming up around that time. such as Venus and Serena, Lindsay, and even Capriati was re-sparked.
    and now in todays game with all these advanced athletic players, Hingis gets her ass kicked. She should've stayed retired.

    i still remember how Hingis cried like a stubborn brat after Steffi Graff kicked her ass in the 1999 French Open final. haha. that rubbed me the wrong way.
    i'm sick of Hingis.
     
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