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  1. maverick66

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    One time match with them trying to punk over. Somehow Cena or HHH will get involved and once again Punk will be overshadowed. Maybe a return of Nash he needs a push.

    Y2J is underrated. He is a good face and a great heel. I enjoyed him more when he was feuding with steph but still he is one of the better guys out there consistently.

    Also Orton comes back. I was a little surprised as he is a total screw up. I still predict he is gone within 2 years.
     
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    Im so sick of A.J personally.
     
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    McKayla is not impressed with Macho Man dropping an elbow on gad. But I sure as hell am
     
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    I watched TNA last night.

    I am amazed they are still around. What a mess of rehashed mess.

    AJ Styles still has a storyline going with Daniels. They have been working angles together for like a decade now. Almost like they cant work with anyone else.

    The gang attacking people angle again from them. Why does it seem like they love group attacks on people. I enjoy factions but this gang out of nowhere crap doesnt do it for me.

    As bad as Raw has been and its been bad they are not gonna be pushed by TNA for a long time. The only thing TNA has going for it is the Knockouts. Those girls can wrestle and are really really hot.
     
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    TNA is really bad. The knockouts cant save it.

    AJ Styles has the all the in ring ability in the world, but cant pull off a fued to save his life.

    I went to watch it last night but at 10 UFC is on spike now. TNA starts at 8. Not a fan. I hate to see actual good wrestlers like the Dudleys, Angle, and especially Kennedy/Anderson wasting away in that place. There is room for those guys in WWE. Especially with 3 hour Raws now.

    Angelina Love got released in July so there is potential after her no compete clasue is up we may see her in WWE. But WWE dont care about womens wrestling so that wont happen.
     
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    It's actually quite the opposite. They travel far less and are in the ring much less frequently. Therefore, they are doing the opposite of wasting away, they are actually preserving their health to a far greater degree than they would be in the E. More power to 'em.

     
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    Obviously they are physically wasting away slower.

    But come one, doing a show at Ripken Stadium called Basebrawl is wasting away.
     
  8. jamesblakefan#1

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    Looks like AW got the boot for his Kobe/r@pe joke from a few weeks ago. Seems like a raw deal...same thing Kobe's accuser said.
     
  9. Ronaldo

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    His name was a bigger joke, Abraham Washington?
     
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    Kinda sucks I liked him runnin his mouth saying dumb stuff. I guess prime time players are done.

    Doesnt surprise me though.
     
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    Was even better in FCW w/ Abraham Sadaam Washington and Abraham Obama Washington. :)
     
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    And the WWE apologizes for a Kobe joke? Forgetabouit
     
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    So Brock Lesnar wins his match against HHH (we all knew it would happen), and then he announces he is leaving the WWE?

    I think we all know better than that. The last thing Vince McMahon would do is open the door for someone to humiliate his son-in-law and not make any more money for the McMahon family.

    What do you guys think is next for Brock?
     
  15. Ronaldo

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    The Undertaker
     
  16. Ramon

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    Hmm...to break the streak? Maybe.

    I suppose they do have the money to pay Mark Callaway for one more Wrestlemania. They would have to pay him a LOT to ruin that 20-0 streak, and they would need a lot of viewers to profit from it. Let's face it, when you have a current superstar against a retired legend, the current superstar wins every time. It's simple economics because the retired legend isn't going to give you many more performances. I'd actually rather see Lesnar against a current champion.
     
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    Barrock is almost as current as Duane Johnson.
     
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    Undertaker understands the business and Understands you have to lose eventually.

    If the Streak is going to end at mania this year. It would be to somebody like Wade Barrett. A guy thats young and established as a draw, but needs that extra kick to carry the company for a while.
     
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    If it's going to be used to put someone over and give them a bump, then I'm ok with the streak ending. If it's going to be used on someone already established like Cena or a part timer like Lesnar then hell no, Taker shouldn't have to job for them.

    Personally I'd be ok if Taker retired unbeaten, that's really all he has as far as accomplishments since he doesn't have that many title reigns and the guy has done so much for the business for so many years that they should at least let him have the streak if he wants it. But Taker's the kind of guy that would job if he felt it would put someone over. Don't see him jobbing to Lesnar all things considered.
     
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    There were some odd moments, tension at the UFC PPV between UT and Lesnar.
     
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    Lesnar seems pretty current to me. It's only been about a year since he fought UFC title matches. I think Lesnar is taking over the Brett Hart WCW role. He only wrestles on a few occassions, still makes tons of money, and saves wear and tear on his body (possibly so he can do UFC fights in the future?). I sure hope Undertaker doesn't job for him. I'd like to see him retire with more dignity than that.
     
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    Lesnar doesn't love the business IMO. He's only doing this bc the UFC thing went belly up after his health troubles. Not that I'm complaining, but he's still pretty damn old relatively speaking (35) and not going to be around often enough to really build on it if he did go over Taker.
     
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    The Brett Hart WCW role basically means not being used at all then eating a stiff kick to the face that ends his career pretty much?
     
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    Lesnars a part timer doing it for the money. The WWE basically laid down and told Brock when he was young. "You are the man and the future of the company, you will make millions of dollars and be a legend". He didnt like traveling and up and quit to try to play football. When football didnt work out he wrestled in Japan while hs wife was suing WWE.

    Thats where the beef with Taker comes in. Taker is a huge company man and feels the whole locker room was willing to take a back seat and hand Brock the reighns and he turned there backs on them.

    And then wrescking you mountain bike and having a stroke. Damn you Goldberg.

    Actually Bring back Goldberg and let him job to Ryback. Goldberg had a problem with losing to Jericho becuase he felt Jericho wa small and it wasnt life like for him to lose to a guy under 6ft. Apparently Jericho heard that and went and beat the crap out of Goldberg, but they still didnt let Jericho win. Ryback is as big if not beggir than Goldberg ever was.
     
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    If that's the case, it's hard to see the Undertaker jobbing for Lesnar. I wouldn't like to see that anyway.

    Ryback needs to do something different. Right now, he just looks like a copy of Goldberg.
     
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    OMG, now you reminded me of that good-for-nothing ho, Sable. She owes everything she has to the WWE. She was nothing, then the WWF promotes the heck out of her, and she throws Marc Mero under the bus. I can't believe I was drooling like everyone else when she came out in that body paint!

    I really can't cheer for a guy who would marry someone like that. I hope Brock never wins another match!
     
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    Taker wont job to Lesnar. Lesnar doesnt need Taker to job for him to get what he wants. If he wanted to go full time at it again he would could just get right abck into it. He is already established and wouldnt benefit from the push like ending the streak would give him.

    They are slowly letting Ryback get into the Mic skills more and more. When he was Skip he wasnt terrible on the Mic so there is some potential. Goldberg showed no potential. His winnig streak was all he had. Brock has no mic Skills so they give him a manager. Goldberg was apparently so hard to work with and so stubborn he would didnt want a manager stealing his spotlight.

    Ryback doesnt need a manager. I think he can handle himslef on the Mic well enough. Its hard to get into Ryback though, becuase you can sorta tell Skip wants to do more than yell

    "Finsih It"
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    "Feed me more"
     
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    And yes Sable was a Ho. I always like Marlena/Teri Runnels better.
     
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    Between Sable and Teri, I can't decide which one is more of a ho. Teri was about as much of a ho, but since she wasn't as good looking as Sable, she never had as much attention.

    Dustin Runnels had to be the black sheep of the family. His dad wasn't too amused with that Gold Dust character, and he had some things to say about that gold-digger, Teri, as well.

    Cody seems to be making some headway. Seems like he just needs one break to push him to the top tier.
     
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    Well I guess any story involving Punk and Lawler is done.

    Hopefully he gets better. If I recall he lived one of the cleanest lifestyles there was. He was sorta stright edge even back in the day. Maybe thats why punk even bothers doing anythign with him from a story line perspective.
     
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    I know wrestling has gotten hella boring w/ CM Punk boring the hell out of me w/ his long uneventful title reign. But this Ryback thing actually's the only thing semi interesting right now. Yeah I know it's Goldberg Part Deux but it's still interesting to me and i like the Ryback. Guy's a beast.

    But I swear if they let Punk beat Ryback I'm done for awhile. Already stopped watching Raw and SD as much bc of Punk being so damn boring saying the same thing every week.
     
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    Ive been out of the loop. Figured it wasnt worth watching till Rock wins the belt at the rumble and Cena wins the actual Rumble. That way Cena gets the belt back at WM.

    Actually thats pretty foregone so I may be out entirely. They almost sucked me back in hardcore. Then it got lame.
     
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    Royal Rumble anyone? Rock as champ again, looks like Rock/Cena part II.
     
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    What happened to lesnar? Some feuds between lesnar, the rock and cena would be pretty interesting. Wishful thinking I guess; haven't watched wrestling in about 10 years.
     
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    Good call, He's Back!
     
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    Yes and apparently he has signed an extension through next years wrestlemania.
     
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    This may be the least excited I've been for Wrestlemania in recent memory. Cena/Rock II is blah, HHH/Lesnar would be ok if we hadn't just seen it, and I'm so over Punk that I don't wanna see him vs Taker and will riot if he beats him.
     
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    The quality of the product has taken a nosedive since 2003 (not coincidentally, the last year that Lesnar was working full time). Every year when I thought it couldn't get any worse, it did. And significantly so.

    WWE TV has been unwatchable for nearly a decade now. The only thing that's varied is HOW unwatchable it's been.
     
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    The young talent isnt there or isnt being used. Its just how it is right now. I thought with the 3 hour raw they would showcase alot more of the younger wrestlers but that just isnt happening.

    HHH/Lesnar is two guys who are less than 20 dates a year so could care less.

    Undertaker might be less than 15 dates a year and i agree with you blowing that record to CM Punk is just stupid.

    I still dont understand why the Rock is wrestling again. The money they offered him must be amazing because his film career was doing really well.

    I am waiting on a Kevin Nash involvement in the HHH match.
     
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    Four flicks in four months and Wrestlemania. What's next, the White House?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Dwayne just enjoyed performing in the 'E.

    Plus, it's a great vehicle for promoting his films to the 18-35 demographic.
     
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    With no with Smackdown and Raw brand extensions they should unify the title world titles belts together. Sick of seeing midcarders than Dolph Ziggler hold the WHC.
     
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    Ryback loses 7 PPV's in a row and gets a title shot with Cena, terrible writing. Plus he's awful, can't talk or wrestle.
     
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    Wrestlemania day. This thread definitely deserves to be brought back. WWE has been on fire the past few months. So much talent :D Anyone else have the network?
     
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    Where is RVD?
     
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    Was there a Phillip Jack Brooks siting in the Big Easy? Last saw him on the Talking Dead.
     
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    U guys see the HOF ceremony? Wow at Jake's speech. So amazing. Scott looked awesome, and Carlito was hilarious.
     
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    used to be a big fan, pretty much stopped watching it once the attitude era was over and PG era began, dislike John Cena so much.

    Will only watch now for Undertaker moments
     

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