WTF - Lars Graff's last tournament as ATP Chair Umpire

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  1. woodrow1029

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    Lars Graff is retiring as a chair umpire after 2012 WTF, after about 30 years of on court officiating. He will go to work in the Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida ATP offices, as well as continue to work as an ATP World Tour supervisor/referee. But, his on court days of officiating will come to an end after tomorrow.
     
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  2. thejackal

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    Best wishes to Lars in his new position. Have only heard good things about him from those around pro tennis.
     
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    What a shame. I am literally balling my eyes out.
     
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  4. Rock Strongo

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    I thought his last tournament would be the Stockholm Open!

    Cool guy. Intimidating as hell though. I even have a picture of me with him!
     
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  5. Mustard

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    Lars Graff has been a great umpire.
     
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    I read WTF in the title as wtf?!!
     
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  7. Max G.

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    Clearly, there's a job opening for our very own Woodrow! ;)
     
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  8. joeri888

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    Will he be umpiring the final?
     
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    Sorry to hear that.

    From what I have seen from him, he was/is at his right place, officiating matches on the highest level.

    Best of luck in the future!
     
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    He is alright, never overrules unless is 2 feet long or wide.

    Mohammed guy is GUOAT!!
     
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    He can join his sister Steffi in retirement
     
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    Great umpire. Now we are left with the likes of Mohamed Lahyani. Yuck. A weak era of umpiring is to befall the ATP tour.
     
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    As a commentator said recently, he was "Firm but fair"
     
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    Yes he will be.
     
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    Sad to see such a veteran umpire retire, but I guess that's just life. Also kind of sad that umpires such as Graff are unappreciated for their work.
     
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    Umpiring seems like something you could do until you were quite old, but I would think that the constant travel would wear you out eventually.
     
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    He's had a great career.
     
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    He been a great umpire. Always loved the Swede calmness he had.

    He looks serious to the goofy Layani.

    Usually he does not make mistakes....this week has been poor maybe because it his last tournament. Some bad overules and misses of the ball. Del Potro was annoyed.
     
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    I like Mohammed Lahyani as well, but his approach is different. Graff is firm but fair, while Lahyani tries to be all pally and openly has a sense of humour. An argument Lahyani had with Coria at 2003 Hamburg during Coria's semi final match with Gaudio, still cracks me up.
     
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    Is he retiring because he beat his wife with a tea cup?
     
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    Layani is indeed goofy. However, his career included some quite remarkable matches, like Federer-Sampras or Isner-Mahut.
     
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    Link or Describe please?:twisted:
     
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    Yup link pls :)
     
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    I don't have a link, but I can describe:

    Guillermo Coria won the first set 6-3, and the second set went to a tiebreak. Gaston Gaudio held his own serve on the first point of the tiebreak.

    On the second point of this tiebreak, Coria and Gaudio had a short rally, when the umpire (Lahyani) suddenly stopped play to look at a mark that Gaudio hit onto the baseline. Gaudio then starts going to the net and shouting at Lahyani for stopping play when he thought his ball was in, and Lahyani shouts to Gaudio "It's your point, it's your point, he (pointing at Coria) said stop, he said stop. It's your point, take it easy". Gaudio looks surprised and shrugs his shoulders.

    Coria is then aghast at Lahyani telling him that he said stop, going "No, no". Lahyani then shouts to Coria "You lose the point because you said out. Come, come (urging Coria towards the chair) I'll explain to you. You say out and then I say stop". Coria then goes "no, I never said out. You stopped play".

    On the replay, it was clear that Coria never said a word when Lahyani stopped play, but Coria lost the point anyway and ended up losing the tiebreak. However, Coria made up for this by thrashing Gaudio, 6-0, in the third set.

    Coria then went on to win the final against Agustin Calleri.
     
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    Thanks Mustard.....too bad I wasn't such a tennistard back then. Thanks to you and many others who have interesting tidbits to contribute. Hopefully someone puts it on Youtube one day.

    Pretty bad call from Layhani...maybe an excuse since he was not sure if the ball touched the line. Tried to please the angry Gaudio.
     
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    Who cares really.
     
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    About your post?
     
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  30. MAXXply

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    Lars Graff always struck me as a bada** mo'fo who would make a great James Bond villain, especially in a modern day Bond film starring opposite Daniel Craig. I reckon Graff could've starred as a fantastic La Chiffre.
     
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    Don't forget this disaster. After all that, Lahyani was wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZns7F3OLDY
     
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    Graf has been a very good umpire, but I use the past tense deliberately. Recently I have noticed that he has been making some very bad overrules, maybe his eyes are going and he has decided, "enough". Particularly in this WTF tournament he has made some bad overrules.

    I only wish some of the other umpires who have also been making incorrect and unnecessary overrules would retire as well! They are only supposed to interfere if the mistake is very clear.
     
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    the correction the ball was good call is not as bad as calling a ball out during a rally.
     
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    This will be his Larst match
     
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    Oh dear :)
     
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    FanGraffTic!
     
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    If he had waited a few more months, he could have retired along with Federer and Nadal.
     
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    Graff interview on career following final Stockholm Open this year.

    http://youtu.be/ekMguGQCzqg

    "It's better to leave the party while you think it is fun still, rather than be asked to leave."

    I for one will miss Graff as an umpire. He was a good umpire and had a discernible personality, without needing to impose on matches.
     
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    Graf always struck me as old school like Norm Chryst, there to do his job and not kiss up to the players or be seen on TV. I always enjoyed his verbal skirmishes with Roddick.
     
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    Oh boy! :(
     
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    Awww Lars... I've become kind of fond of him over the years volunteering at and visiting assorted tournaments, mostly in California.

    I sat next to him in the stands up in San Jose one night to watch Andy v Andy. At the time I was a Roddick fan, not really sure about Murray. Lars explained points to me after each one, explained that Roddick wasn't playing poorly at all, its just that Murray was not giving in to his power game and was finessing the ball around the court instead. It was very interesting. Lars could easily be a color commentator. (Pretty sure that was the same year Murray won San Jose.) I became a fan of Murray that week, especially in that match when I really began to understand that what he does on court can't necessarily be seen on TV.

    Don't know how it came up in conversation, but I taught Lars why people say "word" and how he could use it in conversation in so many ways. I double dog dared him to say it to Roddick the next time Andy went off on him in a match. He never did, but every time I saw Lars after that we always said "WORD" to each other. When I finally made it to Wimbledon, I saw Lars in front of me and shouted it to him. He stopped dead, turned around and saw me and said 'YOU MADE IT!' Very sweet.

    We were chatting at IW a few years back and I mentioned someone's tennis academy. He said "I think that is the most overused word in the entire tennis industry - ACADEMY. Everybody has a tennis academy, on one tennis court." I think it was last year I walked up to him as he was sauntering back to the lounge and said 'take a cheesy picture with me' and he said sure, so I held my phone out in front of me and we both made semi silly faces.

    Unfortunately, as much as I like Lars is almost equal to the amount that I think Jan-Michael hates him. Awkward. After one doubles match in San Jose Jan-Mike just went off and gave me a list of matches in which he was sure Lars had screwed him over during the course of his career. So... that's one subject we don't discuss and I don't think I ever mentioned to him any of the conversations/jokes I had with Lars.

    Sorry to see him go, but glad to hear he'll still be around in some capacity. Perhaps I'll still run into him at IW from time to time.
     
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    All eyes would be on Rafa and Rog. Not Lars....so good things he did.
     
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    Oh dear. I heard he was one of the better (more respected?) referees on the tour. I wish him the best.
     
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