X-1 Biphase hybrid

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  1. murrmanfan13

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    Hey guys,

    I am a huge fan of SPPP and Luxilon alu power/rough, and am starting to expand my string inventory, so I am going to try strings like Kirsch Pro-line II, MSV hex and Topspin. So out of these strings, and maybe other poly's, which do you guys think will go best with X-1 Biphase in the mains or crosses. Everyone I have talked to has told me X-1 is what I should switch to from gut, is this true?

    I am a 4.5 topspin base-liner.

    Thanks for your help :)

    Sam
     
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  2. star 5 15

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    its not as good as gut. nothing is as good as gut. thats why its 42 dollars and x-one is 15
     
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  3. murrmanfan13

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    That makes perfect sense, but for a string-breaker like me, would you consider it a good cheaper alternative?

    Also, do you feel the same way about Luxilon being superior to all poly's?
     
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    I haven't tried msv but Luxilon is the best poly ive ever hit with, however I had a expieremental set of Babolat Revenge in april and I loved that. I would consider x-one the best cheaper alternative.
     
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  5. murrmanfan13

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    Thanks for the help, I will definitely try X-1 with Alu rough on my next hybrid.
    Any opinion with mains and crosses? I know with gut Luxilon is best in the crosses, but does that apply to multi's also? From my times with Alu rough I would think that it would shred the mains pretty fast.

    Sam
     
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    do it in the crosses. alu rough would make it break even faster than all x-1
     
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  7. murrmanfan13

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    Thanks alot, do you know when Revenge is coming out, I was just reading a bit about it and it sounds phenomenal.
     
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  8. wrxtotoro

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    I love a bed of full natural gut... and call me a nerd but I am starting to put baby oil on my gut to prolong it's life... :shock:
     
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  9. kashgotmoney

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    a hybrid with x one.... try pro red code or black code
     
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  10. Fedace

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    black code suck. try the Proline 2
     
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  11. murrmanfan13

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    does baby oil really work, because if it does thats a good idea :D
     
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  12. murrmanfan13

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    fedace-i have an order of Proline 2 coming in so ill try that when it gets here. what are your thoughts on Signum ppp because i got a reel of that. do u think its worth stringing it?

    only got a about two sets worth left in my reel :(
     
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  13. Fedace

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    I think Proline 2 will definitely give you more power. I always felt like Signum ppp was a inferior string to proline 2. Inferior in every way. Feel, power, Spin.
     
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    I tried X-one main, Alu Rough in crosses. The X-one can last for 3 hours play.
     
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  15. murrmanfan13

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    thanks for the response fedace, im real excited for my pl2 now

    at tennisuperman-do you think it would work any better with power instead of rough? how did it play?
     
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    I also tried reveral set up. ALu Rough in main, X-one crosses. A bit stiff then X-one in main, less power and playability. But the X-one can last longer. I like the feel for X-one in main. But 2 hrs play is not affordable. So I changed natural gut in main and Alu rough in crosses, can last longer. (around 10-12 hrs for me)
     
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  17. murrmanfan13

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    which gut did you use? i have a bunch of x-1 and i dont know what to hybrid it with, or hybrid it with anything if i will only get 3hrs of play with rough. any other ideas towards which poly cross i should use?
     
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  18. Supracool94

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    Try X-1 17 on the Mains and MSV Focus Hex 17 on the crosses, it gives you great spin and control!

    And if you get them both in red, its looks great as well!
     
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  19. hoodjem

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    I tried a hybrid with X-1: WC Silver String 1.20 mains and X-1 17g crosses. It was like mush: way too much power and no control, just soft as all get-out.

    I'm not saying that X-1 is a bad string, but it is rather soft. So my rec is to tension it extra tight (+2-3 lbs.), and hybrid it with something crisp.
     
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  20. murrmanfan13

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    yeah it is soft, how would a crisp string like SPPP work or Kirsch pro line 2?
     
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  21. murrmanfan13

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    ill try it with msv, do you know how it compares to other top polys with x-1?
     
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  22. charliefedererer

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    Have you considered Klip Armour Pro instead of the X-1 biphase for your hybrid with a poly? It's only $8 more per hybrid string job and it is natural gut. I think it lasted longer and played more like VS (maybe a little stiffer, but hard to tell in a hybrid) in my gut mains/Alu power rough crosses hybrid.
     
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  23. murrmanfan13

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    so its 32 dollars a pack? that sounds pretty reasonable
     
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  24. murrmanfan13

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    SPPP/X-1 biphase playtest

    today i hit with this hybrid for about 1 hour. i had sppp in mains strung at 59 and x-1 in the crosses at 61. at first it was stiff and my balls where going into the net. once i started swing out more with topspin i had fair results. the control was great and so was consistency, but the sppp needs to be worked in first before it really shines. the power was lower than my usual hybrid rough/excel. im hoping it will become more powerful by the end of my next session, and if it doesnt i think i might want to change the mains to either x-1 biphase, kirschbaum pl2 or msv. how do these strings sound to you guys? any other things worth trying like luxilon?
     
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  25. hoodjem

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    Kirsch Pro Line II is a much better string. That or MSV.
     
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  26. murrmanfan13

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    Would I put that in the mains or crosses? Do you have a preference between the two?
     
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  27. tennisstrngdude

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    x-1 with a poly? X-1 will shred. Bad call.
     
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  28. murrmanfan13

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    no it wont... that depends all on the poly...
     
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    Maybe you can try lux bb ace 18 with x-1 and see how it plays, lux bb ace wont dissapoint
     
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  30. sidzej

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    I've tried full bed of X-1 (which was OK), many hybrids with X-1 with synguts and co-polys, and what worked best for me? =>
    Kirschbaum Spiky Shark in the mains and X-1 in crosses => very nice combination, especially after initial "break-in" period...
     
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  31. sidzej

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    I meant a full set :)
     
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  32. forehand_barrage

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    you can try x-1 in the mains and pro red code in the crosses, the prc tames the power of x-1 and add control to the string bed.
     
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  33. murrmanfan13

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    all great ideas guys! does spiky shark have any type of texture? if it does wouldn't that lessen the durability? o and sid, are there any other notable mentions of things you tried with x-1?

    ill give big ace a try, once i found alu power/rough i never cared to look farther into luxilon strings :)
     
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    Spiky shark is a textured string it has an octagonal profile
     
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  36. murrmanfan13

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    ah ok, so it does rip x-1, thats what im looking for
     
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  37. hoodjem

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    I tend to like the poly in the mains. But if you want more feel, go with the multi in the mains.

    BBA 1.12 is a great poly IMO.
     
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  38. murrmanfan13

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    is BBA as tough on x-1 as alu rough? i think ill give it a try. as of know i am not happy with sppp and x-1, so ill try all recommendations
     
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  39. Matchball

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    This is a combo/hybrid I 'd loooooove to know about. Amazing you bring it as a suggestion!! I would put ace in the mains :mrgreen:
     
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    Look at my signature below. Definitely the best setup ever!!
     
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  41. Matchball

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    You can also combine Weisscannon Silverstring with X-1. I think you will like it.
     
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  42. pistolero

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    x-1 & co-poly would extend life of x-1? (52-56lbs)
     
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  43. Down_the_line

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    I've currently got BB Alu Power 16 in the mains and X-1 Biphase 16 in the crosses, both @ 56lbs, on my Youtek IG Speed 18x20. Not really liking it too much so I watched the TW review for my racquet to get some suggestions and one playtester suggested a hybrid string setup of a co-poly at a low tension in the mains and a soft multifilament in the crosses. I'm thinking of sticking with X-One Biphase in the crosses, except I'll change to the 17 guage. Then for the mains I was thinking of trying Babolat Revenge 17.

    Anyways, my question is: What tension would you guys suggest I string the crosses at? I'll be getting the Revenge 17 done up at 53lbs (the lower end of the suggested tension for the IG Speed). Should I leave the crosses at 56lbs like they were before? Higher? Lower? Sorry guys, I'm just learning about string setups so any feedback is appreciated.
     
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  44. pistolero

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    keep the same tension (56) to compare with your previous setup... make fine-tune changes afterwards as you feel needed. the Babolat Revenge 17 sounds like a good choice. what did you not like about your old setup... maybe too much power?

    the x-1 at 17g is a very nice string, but its durability is poor. reiterating my question, would hybridizing it with a round co-poly extend the longevity of the string... certainly the control factor would go up, sacrificing on comfort.
     
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