Xavier Malisse's Prince experimental racket (Pics)

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  1. Equijet

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    Specifications : Grip 3, unstrung weight 315g, unstrung balance point 31.5, Length 71cm / 28 inches. Enjoy! :)
     
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  2. xerolimit

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    so what kind of racket is it??
     
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  3. crism54

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    a simple tour diablo extended. I play now whith it
     
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  4. Automatix

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    Don't you find it odd that so many players use extended frames yet most players frames sold to us are standard length?
     
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  5. ericsson

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    Thanks Equijet, keep them coming ;-)

    @Auto: don't forget that many pro's still using standard rackets too, and you can buy extends...
     
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  6. Automatix

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    I know I know... I just had to gripe about it... I really dig extended players frames yet they're so hard to get... the only arrangeable one for me is the POG LB currently... :cry:
     
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  7. featherlight

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    what is that red thing at the top of the racket
     
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  8. Chase

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    graphite x
     
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  9. eagle

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    That looks like his old weapon, the Tour Diablo.

    Maybe he blackened them so that his girlfriend who plays college tennis and plays with the Diablos also doesn't mistakenly pick up his racquets.

    :)

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  10. dincuss

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    Thats cool.

    MORE PICS EQUIJET:D
     
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  11. Mdubb23

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    Synthetic grip, really?
     
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  12. bryanj2u

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    it really just look like a Prince Tour Diablo with a different PJ. u could see the Triple threat things on the head. and it has the same square beam matte finish as the red tour diablo
     
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  14. RacquetCraft

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    Specifications : Grip 3, unstrung weight 315g, unstrung balance point 31.5, Length 71cm / 28 inches. Enjoy! :)[/QUOTE]

    Equijet,

    Your photo of the Prince experimental testing mold of the what was to become Malisse's custom Diablo is very nice.

    To add to this tapestry, I am posting photos of the Malisse finished product. The photos are of Malisse's Diablo as well as Dudi Sela's Diablo (pre-Head days).

    I will once again ask my friend good friend Ericsson to assist me in posting the photos.

    One more thing, the spec of Malisse's Diablo's are:

    weight over all- 311 gr.
    balance- 318
    length- 28

    Enjoy

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    Here you go :) (courtesy of Racquetcraft)

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  16. dincuss

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    im sorry, but whats the headsize?
     
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  17. The_Punisher

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    that looks like a wilson grip on the OP's pix.
     
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  18. PBODY99

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    We overlooked few.........

    For some reason, the companies want to get the swing weight and static weight as low as possible for too many frames. The 29 inch 9.0 ounce super over size frames had too high a swing weight for the "target" player, the extra length is what drew me to them. Other players can't get use to the extra length of a 27.5 mid size( 93_ 95) square inch racket.
    If you are old enough to remember the first Prince, you might have been one who felt it looked "short".
    We overlooked few, want a 28'' frame, no lead needed to get the swing weight up.
     
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    love x man hope he keeps playing great tennis
     
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  20. TensProfes

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    It's a fairly simple case of math on the part of the racquet companies. When extended racquets were considered "new technology" everyone sold them, but the category has since cooled at retail. Now, it's simpler and cheaper for them to just sell one length, except with models where there's a specific demand for extended versions. The fewer SKUs they have to make, the more they keep their costs down, and the less likely they are to get stuck with old frames in inventory.
     
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  21. RacquetCraft

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    Its a midplus.

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    Looking at the picture, The head size would be 100, with the overall racquet being 28"
     
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    dude, that's a sweet paint job. simple and clean.
     
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    Then why is this racket 28 inches long ???
     
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  25. RacquetCraft

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    Not sure what you are getting at, but the racquet was custom cut from a hairpin ("raw racquet") having engeneering code TC55P-100 M3-2A in the throat (which are received directly from Prince) to Mallisse's required length (28" in his case). 28" is longer than the standard racquet length (27") so it is an extended racquet. A custom player molded grip is added along with the silicone and/or lead to bring it to spec and then the grommets, etc are added...and viola! you have Mallisse's personal racquet!

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    I know this is an old thread, but I recently watched Malisse play against Baghdatis in the semis of Washington. I noticed that he was playing with what looked like the Prince Tour Diablo (I own the mid and midplus). Anyway, I ran across this thread and realized that he WAS playing with a custom Tour Diablo. Excellent information in the thread by the way.

    Prince is obviously committed to the EXO3 racquets, but I think they missed an opportunity with the Triple Threat Racquets. Those are some real sleepers! I see so many club players that continue to play with those discontinued racquets and I see them being sold on **** for relatively high prices.

    I understand the business aspect of creating new racquets with new technology, but what about pleasing your customers? It seems like Head, Wilson and Babolat are contracting more pro players than Prince these days. So maybe they are more focused on re-establishing themselves in the pro ranks. I do realize that Prince is still selling the Graphite Classic, OS and Longbody, but will they re-release any of the other top selling classic racquets that have been discontinued (cts series etc.)?
     
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    The real frame/mold under the paint Malisse's racket is the Prince Precision Retro, it is custom drilled and has a custom handle. This is what he always played most of his career, he did try a Prince Exo Graphite 100 awhile ago but shortly went back to his old Retro...

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  28. pjonesy

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    When was this racquet available?
     
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    It was a European version, around 2000. Before the retro he used a Prince Michael Chang LB.

    PS: he also used a Volkl Quantum 10 tour in his career but not for very long.
     
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    This weekend, I was holding a few of Malisse's frames. Never gave it much thought to really look at the frame, and didn't even notice they were extended. They were being customized, so I was at the shop stringing where the guy who customizes works on them. If I go back, I'll ask him, and perhpas take a few photos (if they are still there).
     
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    ^^^Drak, what is Malisse down there for...just training? He played some great tennis up here last week, would be nice to see him playing more again.

    I was told he was using Prince Diablo at LM.
     
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    ^^^Not sure if he was even in Ft. Lauderdale. Many players ship their frames to Brotman to have work done on them.

    You will also be interested in knowing that your boyfriend, Andy Lake was also there, and he was having his frames customized.
     
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    :) Ohhhh, I miss him so! Did you squeeze his butt for me?

    Um, eh...yeah, so, yes, Prince Diablo!

    Let me check and see if I have any good pics of his racquet from this week.
     
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    I appreciate the info, very interesting. What kind of relationship does Malisse have with Prince? If he is using a racquet that is technically "discontinued" (or an old frame that is "customized"), will they promote him in the same way they would a player who is contracted to use an EXO3 racquet?

    I vaguely understood the fact that Sampras played with an old "discontinued" Pro Staff 6.0 85, but are players still doing that?
     
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    Totally agree. I've been frustrated by the same thing for years. And it's only getting worse. The problem has been a marketing/manufacturing one rather than a problem with the frames themselves.
     
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    Malisse has a pretty good relationship with Prince since he uses a totally custom racket, like i said underneath is a Prince Precision Retro but it is custom drilled with a custom handle and some lead. I know for a fact that Prince wanted him to play the newer stuff and he did but apparently he didnt like it so much and went back to his old stick, nowadays it is hard to paintjob the newer series with the holes so i guess that's why he is still using that Diablo pj.
     
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    I did have a close-up photo of XM's racquet from the Legg Mason SF last Saturday up in your Legg Mason Picture Thread, but I see now that it has disappeared for some reason. I'll post a large size photo of the racquet later on this evening for everyone here.

    Great thread by the way and some very interesting information provided!

     
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    OK, here are the two best close up photos of XM's racquet and at noresize.

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    I've got more so if anyone wants to see more views, just let me know.

     
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    Let me see if I understand this correctly. Malisse originally played with a Prince Precision Retro. He was "encouraged" to play with a newer model. Malisse tried the EXO3 Graphite 100. He did not like the racquet and wanted to go back to playing with the Precision Retro. Prince realized that the racquets could be painted the color of EXO3 models. What they could not cover up (or modify) is the port holes of the EXO3/Speedport racquets. The only racquet frame whose color scheme would work on the Precision Retro and still make it look like a newer model, would be the Prince Tour Diablo Midplus.
     
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    That is correct my friend.
     
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    Thank you. I did not realize it could be that big of a hassle for a professional player. I suppose that he should be grateful that Prince lets him play with the Precision Retro, although they don't want us to know that.
     
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    ericsson, are the retro and the diablo really just the same racquet? also, pjonsey, it's not like he was using the the racquet with the retro pj, tried the exo graphite 100, then went back to retro but with the diablo pj. he's been using the diablo pj for a long time. i have the retro mid and it's a pretty nice stick. it says 95 in. in the throat, but is really 93 (same size as the diablo mid and the graphite mid. or are those really 90?). it would probably be my holy grail if actually was 95 in.
     
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    No they are not the same racket, they share the same mold though.
    Malisse played the retro paintjob around 2000.
     
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    yeah. i think he was dating capriati at the time.
     
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    Yes, I understand. I'm just trying to understand how the racquet companies negotiate with players outside of the top 50 or so. Although Malisse was obviously a top 20 player at some point in his career, I assume Prince is less likely to fawn all over a talented player in his 30s who has fallen out of the top 50.

    The Prince Retro Mid is a racquet that I was not familiar with. It looks like it would be right up my alley. My first racquet was the Prince CTS Precision 90. Like I said before, I own the Diablo mid and midplus. The Mid is 93 in. and the midplus is 100 in. I like them but they do not swing like my old CTS Precision.
     
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