Yonex 110% Loyalty Tour

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by ZhengJieisagoddess, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. Kcraig

    Kcraig Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,389
    Well I finally have my demos in and will be taking them out tonight for an extensive test run. I am comparing the 08RDS001MP to the RDiS100MP. First off did some measurements against my current stick the Prince Diablo MP. All have a Pro Supex white overgrip and a Sampras O dampner:

    Diablo MP (stock) is 11.7oz and pwr rating of 1924 (per tennis.--- site)
    RDS 001MP is 12.05oz and pwr rating of 2005
    RDiS 100MP is 12.0oz and pwr rating of 1956.

    The RDS001MP demo is strung with full NXT demo string at around mid. While the RDiS is with Head FXP and is loose--probably not even 50#! Looking fwd to my hit tonight. Am a little suprised at the high static wt, but the SW feels nice and very HL seems manuverable. I tell you what, they BOTH look outstanding and I love the longer grip shape!:) Would be fine with gaming either one of these sticks, so hopefully one will pull ahead and be the clear frontrunner! My wife is all on me about the mysterious UPS boxes always showing UP!:oops:
     
  2. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    What else is new? :)
     
  3. Kcraig

    Kcraig Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,389
    Exactly--but I'm usually smart enough to have them shipped to the OFFICE--LOL!!:razz: (atleast when I purchase them!)
     
  4. rosheem

    rosheem New User

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    74
    Had to have my new stick shipped to my brother's house.

    Unboxed, unwrapped, and snuck it down to basement where I was supposedly "stringing a racquet for a friend."

    I really can't blame my wife, though. Court time, string, shoes... It does add up.

    I may need to start stringing for money. I can only launder so much of my own regular money!
     
  5. Kcraig

    Kcraig Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,389
    The bad thing is you know you're going to have to "reciprocate" the purchase which means that new stick was not $180.00 it costs YOU $360.00!!!!!:evil:

    Hell I even had a buddy of mine who would have me buy his golf club off the bay, shipped to my office and put in under my house for him to pick up and leave the cash--felt a little Tony Sopranoish on that!
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2009
  6. Soomerstime

    Soomerstime New User

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    24
    Location:
    Missouri
    My story

    So I figured my first post should be in this topic. After playing with Head, Wilson, Prince, and Slazenger racquets I finally gave Yonex a try. I had been thinking about switching over for a long time, and man I am so glad I did. I have a RDS 003 strung up with X-one and love it to death. I am thinking about buying a second one since it is down to $109 bucks but just saw on the yonex usa site about the s-fit series, so I would assume they are going to get an eventual US release.

    Anyone know anything more about the S-fit line other than the small press release on their website?

    Thanks and I am so glad us Yonex-ites have a group on here.:)
     
  7. ZhengJieisagoddess

    ZhengJieisagoddess Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    440
    Location:
    Falls Church, VA
    Welcome to the Tour!!! I have five 003s...wonderful racquet, used by Zheng Jie to advance to the semis at Wimbledon in 2008.
     
  8. tmarshall1991

    tmarshall1991 New User

    Joined:
    May 11, 2009
    Messages:
    28
    Location:
    Burleson Texas!
    Hey everybody I am going to make a switch to yonex but dont know which one yet. The other day I popped my racquet and a friend of mine let me use one of his yonex rqis 1 tours and I fell in love with it. The only thing is it was a bit flexy and he told me with my game I should think about the rds 001 midplus. My game is aggresive I have a whippy topspin forehand with a one handed backhand. I have a hard topspin first serve and a pretty good kick serve for second. Any suggestions?
     
  9. Andyroo

    Andyroo New User

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1
    Just bought new Yonex racket, right choice?

    Haven't played for years (20!) and couldn't find my old Dunlop original graphite so I needed a new one. I'm a bit worried that I should of got advice first.

    I chose the Yonex URQ Speed 8 from my local sports shop as it felt right compared to other rackets and i'm really a beginer/improver. I haven't even hit a ball with it yet. It's light at 260 and 102" head.

    Does anyone have an opinion on it?

    Does it sound like a good choice for my level of tennis?

    I will upgrade if my game improves after lessons.

    Thanks, Andy
     
  10. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    Rosheem,

    Have you had a chance to to hit with the new stick yet? I am still waiting for my second one to arrive and then will start my journey to find the perfect string set up.
     
  11. snoopy

    snoopy Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,123


    Hey, I just got a chance to hit with this racquet. I think it's pretty nice. Decent power and spin, nice and stable. I also served pretty well with it.

    It's not a bad racquet.

    May I ask what else you tried b4 you finally settled on the Tour xl?
     
  12. rosheem

    rosheem New User

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    74
    I've hit with it for about 5 hours now.

    60/58 is too high, which is GREAT news for me. I was really hoping I could dial down the tension for better ball feel, and it looks like I'll be able to do that.

    I think I might try a full poly job next (Silverstring) at about 54 and see what that feels like.

    I played my first match with it yesterday and was kicking kickers OVER the heads of my opponents. I don't know exactly what it is about this racquet and kick serves (I've read similar comments before), but it's definitely true. These kickers will be even sicker with a full poly setup.

    Volleys are so much fun. Overheads are particularly lethal.

    I know that the common feedback on these sticks is that they have no power. My theory is that this feedback comes from hitters who prefer to make contact with a brushing/glancing stroke. I prefer to make solid contact with an almost-perpendicular racquet face and produce spin with lift/roll/turn. This could be the reason why I don't find this racquet to be underpowered at all.

    I haven't totally found my groove with my forehand and backhand quite yet, but it's not far away.
     
  13. rosheem

    rosheem New User

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    74
    I also hit with big spin, a one-handed backhand, and have a good kicker.

    In my opinion, this style matches up perfectly with a flexible racquet. What reasons is your friend giving you to steer you towards a stiffer frame?

    I'm telling you...once I switched to more flexible frames, I feel in love with the feel. I would recommend giving it a chance to see if you like it after getting used to it more.

    The flex actually accentuates the ability to spin the ball, because of the increased dwell time. The longer the ball and strings are in contact, the more spin you can put on the ball. (Whether this is scientifically valid, or just a 'feel' thing, is debatable, but in my opinion, it's probably both).

    I played my first match with my new RQiS 1 Tour yesterday, and was hitting kickers up to head-level and higher. And I'm not talking about moon-ball, high-arcing kickers. These were coming in heavy and absolutely jumping off the court.

    All that said, I say that if the 001 feels like it's a better match, go with it...but don't write off flexible racquets because of a perceived mismatch with your game style until you can prove that connection for yourself. You may be surprised. I've read lots of feedback on flexible racquets and it seems like once people fall in love with the feel, there's no going back!

    Good luck!
     
  14. fps

    fps Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    5,432
    Location:
    Brighton, England
    hey i missed the thread so far, which yonex do you have? i use silverstring too, 1.25 though, at 60/58 in an RDX500MP. it's slightly too tight for sure, but i do it so i get usable tension for longer- i'm not a stringer and can't afford to change that often. interested to hear about your experience, i think weisscanon is a GREAT match for yonex.
     
  15. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    I have been down a very long path of different demo's etc- Racquets I have demoed over the last few months are: Yonex RDiS mid, RDiS midplus, RDiS 300, Dunlop 4d 300 Tour, Dunlop 4d 300 (non tour), Dunlop 4D 200, Dunlop 4d 500 tour, Volkl PB 10 mid, Youtek Radical (pro and mp), Youtek Speed pro and mp. What I found was that all racquets were very good in one aspect or another but what attracted me to the RQiS tour 1 xl was that I did not feel like there was any compromise, it was just a great all around racquet that fit my game.

    If you would like me to do a comparison with any of the frames mentioned let me know.
     
  16. SFrazeur

    SFrazeur Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    6,480
    Location:
    Arkansas

    That is an excellent way to describe when a racquet is a great match for an experienced player; when there is no compromising oneself for the racquet, when it doesn't get in the way, it just lets the player play.

    -SF
     
  17. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    I am currently using the RDiS 300 and liking it a lot. What didn't u like about that one and how would u compare the RDiS 300 vs the Youtek Radical MP?
     
  18. snoopy

    snoopy Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,123

    I've tried the Dunlops and wasn't a big fan. How does the Tour XL compare to the Youtek Speed MP and the RDis 100 MP (the specs of the 100 and tour xl look similar).

    I like my Gamma T-7 but the bit of additional free power from the Tour XL sure was welcome. The racquet was light enough to swing fast but stable enough to block back hard serves. I found the flex of the Tour XL to be very even, I would have liked to felt a little more flex in the shaft. It's definitely a frame for me to consider, even though I still find the Yonex head shape a little weird.

    What strings are you using?
     
  19. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    Don't get me wrong the RDiS is a fine racquet just not as well matched to my game. I found it was lacking a little stability and was slightly over powered for my game. Both of those issues could probably be solved with a little lead and some experimentation with some different strings but with the RQiS no customization other than finding the right string was required. I again favour the RQiS over the Radical MP for some of the same issues I found the RQiS has better stability, plow through and better spin generation (likely due to the more open string pattern), but still had that nice flex that all the new radicals have. If you have not hit with the RQiS 95 XL and you are a fan of new Yonex sticks I suggest you give it a try before you settle on a new stick.
     
  20. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    I agree I could not dial on any of the new Dunlops with the exception of the 4D 300 Tour. As far as the Youtek Speed Mp it would be unfair for me to give this a fair review of this as my hit was very brief, I demoed this at the same time as the Radical Pro, Radical MP. Unfortunately this stick never spent very much time out of the bag as I much preferred the 2 Radicals and never gave the Speed Mp enough time to form a solid opinion. Maybe this fact speaks for itself.

    As far as strings are concerned- My one RQiS I have is strung with full bed of Alu Power. I am waiting for my other stick to arrive and plan to string it with Weiss Turbo Twist.
     
  21. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    did u find the Radical Pro & MP pretty similar in feel? Was there a big difference between the 2 in any other areas besides weight?
     
  22. ZhengJieisagoddess

    ZhengJieisagoddess Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    440
    Location:
    Falls Church, VA
    I loved hitting with the 4D 300 Tour too! You might want to keep an eye on TW's Tiffani -- she uses an RDS 003 now, and also loves the 4d 300 Tour. I am really hoping she posts a review of the RDiS 300, since it seems we all have similar tastes in racquets.
     
  23. snoopy

    snoopy Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,123
    Murray_fan

    Was the Tour XL much different from the Rdis 100 MP?
     
  24. Edstringer13

    Edstringer13 Guest

    when are the SFit rackets going to be available in the states?and what about the new RD 80?
    thanks for the answers.:twisted:
     
  25. Soomerstime

    Soomerstime New User

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    24
    Location:
    Missouri
    I am curious about the S-fit as well. I am thinking about buying a 2nd RDS 003 but am holding off on it until I find out when they may come over stateside. I like the different ways to string them up, that is better than speedports having to switch stuff out. I can't wait to string one if I get one.
     
  26. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    If the swing weight of the Radical pro was not so high I don't know if I would have even tested the Yonex. I found was slightly too demanding over the long haul. I found the Pro better than the mp on serve and it seemed to have significantly more power and spin production. One of the main reasons I liked the RQiS so much is that it had that nice flex and feel similar to the Radical but did not seem so demanding. I feel like I could play all day with the RQiS without any fatigue.
     
  27. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    The Tour XL would be better compared to the RDiS 100 Mid. I think the RDiS 100 mp compares better to the RDiS 300 which initially does not make sense due to the stiffness but for some reason the RDiS 300 feels a lot stiffer/crisp than it's flex rating.The RDiS 100 Mp would be the racquet that would be a natural progression to from the 300. The strung weight of the RDiS 100 MP and the XL are similar and the flex ratings are closer on paper ,but the XL has a little less pop and more of a plush and stable feel. IMO the XL was a better racquet on serve. Hope this helps.
     
  28. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    The best sub 11.8oz Yonex Midplus (98-100sq) ?

    Which Yonex do people feel is the best in that category (sub 11.8oz, 98-100sq) ?

    Over the past 6 months I've been using the RDS-001 MP and have been very happy with the performance (touch stiffer than I'd ideally like but otherwise excellent), however, I would like something with just a bit LESS static weight and swing weight (reason isn't important, I just would).

    What I want is a racquet that will allow me to add a bit of weight when I'm feeling fit and strong and have been able to get a regular hit BUT can remove the weight when I'm feeling a bit sluggish (at 41 and after 26 years playing Australian Rules Football I've got a lot of injuries to make me feel that way) and/or haven't been able to play much at all.

    I've tried the RDiS100 MP and while it did play lighter, for me, than the RDS and the performance was solid it would be a last resort. Not interested in 95sq so that rules out the RQis 1.

    The only options I can see are the RDiS300, RDS003 (although I'm not fond of extended length racquets) and RDS002 (non Tour).

    Recommendations please.
     
  29. Peter Szucs

    Peter Szucs Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2007
    Messages:
    539
    I am currently playtesting the rds003 and all i can say is that its a masterpiece. very similar crisp response to the 001mp but more forgiving sweetspot, more power and better ball feel. its very slightly longer than standard length, not something you cannot get used to in 2 days.
     
  30. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    Sounds like the RDIS 300 is a perfect fit. I have it and love it.
     
  31. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    I Know feel is subjective, but I dont think the 3oo feels stiff at all. I have it strung at 52 with Babolat Xcel Premiere and it feels very comfy to me. The frame is 100% graphite and that is why. Is the RDIS 100 a lot stiffer than the 300?
     
  32. snoopy

    snoopy Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    1,123
    Andrew if you find the 001MP too stiff then i would strike the 002 non-tour from your list. Other than the stiffness, I think the 002 non-tour is a light solid frame that should be great for customizing.
     
  33. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    I do find the 001 MP to be stiffer than I'd prefer but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's too stiff. It's borderline or just a touch stiffer than would be ideal - but I can live with it if necessary. The weight is what is bothering me.

    I don't really need more power than I get from the RDS-001 MP but the 003 will be near the top of my list. Will go back and look at the TW review again. Are you using the original 003 or the newer 2008 model?

    Why is it a perfect fit ?
     
  34. chrishin

    chrishin New User

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    78
    have rdx500 mid i want to get more but it's extremely hard to source new ones even though it's possible and it costs about 170 - 200.
    do you think it's better to buy rds 001 mids and call it a day?
     
  35. tennismsands

    tennismsands Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Messages:
    775
  36. Murray_fan1

    Murray_fan1 Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    899
    Location:
    Pacific North West
    I agree with you feel is definitely subjective and string tension does have a lot to do with a racquets feel. My demo of the 300 was strung at 58lbs with prince recoil which would stiffen up the string bed. In answer to you question I would say IMO the RDiS 100 felt more solid when handling pace and slightly stiffer that the 300.
     
  37. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    12,603
    I wish the 002 line would go non-Isometric. I know it's heretical but this design gets a little boring after a while, so one line that's not is all to the good!
     
  38. MAXXply

    MAXXply Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,625
    Location:
    Sydney
    I'm a latecomer to Yonex...can anyone compare the previous RDS 001 Mid 90 (black and yellow one) to the current red RDiS 100 Mid 93?
    I've learnt to love the RDiS 100 which is the most crispest, most stable stick I've yet played with. Will the older one be similar?
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2009
  39. Peter Szucs

    Peter Szucs Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2007
    Messages:
    539
    I am playtesting the 2008 model. I am experimenting today with lead at 12, 10 and 2 and above the handle to see how it reacts cause i feel i can handle some extra weight.
     
  40. destan

    destan New User

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2004
    Messages:
    51
    I have gone through many different brands - donnay, emrik, head, wilson, dunlop, babolat, prokennex and presently yonex. Is yonex going to be the last? Cannot be sure, but it is the brand that I have the most rackets (3 pieces of RDX 500MP). Why yonex? excellent rackets, and not that common (unlike wilson, where almost everyone is using!).
     
  41. rosheem

    rosheem New User

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    74
    Quick Update -RQiS 1 Tour String Setup

    I tried a hybrid first with WC Silverstring 17g at 60 in the mains and WC Explosiv at 62 in the crosses.

    The feel was a bit too buttery for my taste. Explosiv is an extremely soft multi and I'm not sure it's a great match for flexible frames.

    Now, I've got it strung with a full job of the Silverstring at 56 in the mains and 58 in the crosses. I like this setup much better, as it feels more crisp.

    Man, there is nothing like a fresh stringjob with a full bed of nice poly like Silverstring. The sound of the pop is head-turning. I can see why the pros change racquets so often, because that initial crispiness is pretty short-lived. Then it's just okay for the remainder of the life of the stringjob. I usually cut mine out after about 8-12 hours, which is a compromise. I'd love to have freshies every time I hit, but I've got other things to do besides string racquets.
     
  42. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    If the TW specs are correct, the 003 is 11.1oz strung (bit heavier depending on the string), 6pts HL and 315 swingweight. The 001 MP is 11.7oz, 8pts HL and 322 swingweight. Wouldn't leave me (different for you) much room to modify. However, the 003 is more flexible. Not entirely keen on the 003 being more powerful than the 001 because, when I add weight, it's just going to add power.
     
  43. JackB1

    JackB1 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    14,041
    Location:
    Atlanta GA
    I would recommend the RDiS 300 over the 003. Its an udpated and improved version of the 003.

    BTW, if anyone has the 300, I have (2) sets of XOne Biphase 17g in RED I am looking to get rid if. The red string looks sharp on the white frame. Let me know....
     
  44. teocem

    teocem New User

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    68
    Back to modified RQ 11 after RQIS series..

    I tried rqis 100 mp and 300 but I am back to comfort of my rq 11. I have put 12 grams of lead on it, 6 at the lover part of handle and 6 grams to racquet head (3 at 3 and 3 at 9).
    Nothing compares to softness, luxury, spin and mobility of rqs11. I would like to buy 3 more but I can not find any store selling it. Maybe somebody here would help me. (Grip 4 1/2)
     
  45. Edstringer13

    Edstringer13 Guest

    i have one brand new in 4 5/8,no cover,$140 shipped.I can get you those and 4 1/2 but at reg. retail price.leave me your email and i'll contact you
     
  46. teocem

    teocem New User

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    68
  47. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    Updated, but I'm not so sure about improved. The throat bridge (for want of a better term) they're using in the 300 and 100, in my opinion, stiffens up that part of the frame and makes it a bit more sluggish through the air (coupled with the wider-in-places beam). Also, the difference would have to be very significant to justify paying almost $80 extra.
     
  48. ZhengJieisagoddess

    ZhengJieisagoddess Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    440
    Location:
    Falls Church, VA
    The 300 has more flex. It is standard length (but I never really noticed the difference and I have several 003s as well).
     
  49. AndrewD

    AndrewD Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    6,581
    But where is that flex located - that's the question. The RDC machines (or whatever contraption they use) only measure stiffness at one part of the frame. Unless it has a constant stiffness (unlikely when the head is variable in width) that reading can be deceptive.

    I'll give the RDiS-300 a try but, like I said, I'm not expecting $70 more value.
     
  50. Peter Szucs

    Peter Szucs Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2007
    Messages:
    539
    I suggest you just give it a try instead of going into the specs that much. Maybe not your cup of tea but its worth a try.
     

Share This Page