Yonex Ai 98: tell me more about her

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  1. JackB1

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    "Better" depends on who the user is. They are 2 different racquets designed for 2 different types of players/skill sets. Tell us about you and then we can tell you which is more suited for you.

    They are both great sticks. The short version is that the 100 is more user friendly and powerful, whereas the 98 provides more control and versatilty for the better player.
     
  2. jstenn13

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    Ok, then I think the 98 is for me! Thanks!
     
  3. Dan Z

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    good stuff - will be interested to hear how you get on.
    I play my first match tomorrow with the same string setup. still struggled with my serve last night so hoping for some sort of moment of clarity during warmup :D
     
  4. Power Player

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    To add - one thing that makes the 98 an interesting racquet to me is the amount of spin I can put on the ball. I can make it blur and hit with a lot of pace, just like the more open pattern sticks I was messing with. But I also can hit flat. This goes for serve as well. Plenty of kick on the serve and tons of boom on flats. In that aspect it is very unique and what made me switch to it after just a few weeks of demoing.
     
  5. crazyups

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    That's not to say that an ATP pro like Roddick wouldn't use it since his pure drive Roddick is a similar type racket. By the way, can anyone compare the ai100 to the Roddick since that is what I'm grooving with right now? The PDR is great for everything except drop/touch shots that the 100 may be better at.
     
  6. JackB1

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    But I would suspect you never have trouble getting spin with ANY racquet. True? I think I've heard you say that many times in the past.
    When I switch from the 98 to 100, I immediately notice more spin coming easier. I would suspect suspect this is mostly coming from the more open pattern (The 100 has 6 mains in the throat, where the 98 has 8)?

    Since you have the ability to go for lots of spin or hit flat, the pattern of the 98 is ideal for you, since it's kind of in the middle.
     
  7. JackB1

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    Roddick has more plow thru and power than the AI 100. The AI 100
    more closely compares to the APD than the PDR.
     
  8. crazyups

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    Well, I would definitely add weight to the ai100 like I did to the blx blade 98. But I need the bigger sweet spot that the pdr has. The pdr actually has 102 square inch head size.
     
  9. JackB1

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    AI 100 has a pretty nice sweetspot like the PDR. PDR definitely feels more stiff though. PDR is more a pure baseliners stick. AI100 could be used for a more all around game. Has nice feel and touch. PDR is more a basher.
     
  10. Dgdavid

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    I don't think it is that close to APD to be honest. Had APD 2013 4 times already, love the cosmetic, really want to like but just don't. The Ai100 has a much higher SW which is the difference to me. The few 100 inch class I have liked have all had pretty high SW (Exo3 Black 100, Extreme Pro 2.0, Volkl X8 ).

    I rarely mod rackets though and never did the APD. PDR is not that dissimilar except has the much stiffer feel (to me). Of all the ones I like, Ai100 is only high SW 100sq inch that doesn't kill my arm. PDR was a nightmare for me (my stroke very likely but still...).
     
  11. crazyups

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    I like the higher swing weight number and stiffness of the ai100, if after adding weight it can have the awesome slice of the pdr then I would be really interested.
     
  12. JackB1

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    Yes the AI100 has about 10 pts. more sw but it doesn't feel much higher to me. The Ai 100 cuts through the air very easily. What I was saying was it's the same "type" of racquet as the APD.
     
  13. parasailing

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    Since TW doesn't have both demos in stock for the past month, which one hits closest to the Head Graphene Speed Pro?
     
  14. danbrenner

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    Hijack So from your signature, it looks like you have made quite the switch. Two in fact. Your racquet, and strings? All poly now? Cool. If the all poly assumption is correct, how are you faring with an all poly bed?
     
  15. JackB1

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    Trying full Cyclone in the 100 today. Will report back later.
    Have only used hybrid so far.
     
  16. Dgdavid

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    Desperately want to prefer my G. Prestige Pro, hits so well but in reality, much more effective with the Ai 100. Ego taking a battering but the Ai100 is very good. Much better with new string job too.
     
  17. JackB1

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    Tried the full Cyclone today with the 100 and discovered I like something in between this and the Psycho hybrid. I think I prefer the Psycho, but just need to up the tension. Next time I will try it at 55.
     
  18. MikeHitsHard93

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    Try a poly/syngut hybrid. I think that's what your looking for.
     
  19. JackB1

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    I agree. Poly/multi or poly/syngut will be my choice for the AI 100.
     
  20. MikeHitsHard93

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    I'd suggest keeping the cyclone mains. That's a great string. Maybe N.Vy Crosses?
     
  21. Power Player

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    No this racquet gives me spin a lot easier than others with the tighter patterns. It's just real easy to rip with it. Surprises me a little really. The ball does not overspin and slow down, it just moves like a bullet. Reminds me a lot of the 95D in that respect.
     
  22. JackB1

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    Played some more yesterday with the AI 100 w/ full poly (Cyclone) and it was better the 2nd time out, due to the stringbed loosening up some, but I still think I prefer the hybrid setup. I preferred a hybrid in the APD as well and I think it's similarly powered to the AI 100. I just need to up the tension a little compared to my first stringing. The full cyclone isn't bad though and I can see how most would like it in the AI 100. I also love the extra touch/feel I get with the hybrid. This racquet has really surprised my on my drop shots.
     
  23. JackB1

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    Yes, I loved the "line drive" trajectory I got with the AI 98. The 100 definitely hits loopier, similar to the Speed MP. There was a lot of things I loved about the 98 for sure, but I didn't have the patience to try and make it work. The specs of the 100 are more for me, but I do have a part of me that wishes it worked out with "Ana" :)

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  24. Chuonfood

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    JackB1,

    What's your level, grip size, age, etc info - reason I ask is because I've been reading more and more on the Ai98 vs 100 comparison but would like to know more of what type of player you are.

    Also, I probably missed it, have you done any mods to your 100? Lead, grip change, etc? Thanks
     
  25. danbrenner

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    That is hands down the best I've seen her look.
     
  26. JackB1

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    Sure. I am in my low 50's and play singles and doubles (evenly). One singles league is 3.5, one is 4.0. Doubles I play 4.0 level. I use a 4 3/8" grip. I play a versatile, all around type of game. Lots of slices, droppers, some lobs and hard groundies when needed. I have a better than average serve and use placement over power most of the time. I hit a semi-flat groundstroke but can hit loopy when needed. I try and play as error free as possible and let the other guy make the errors. I am not an "aggressive, go for it" type of player. More a "steady, consistent" type.

    The 98 versus 100 argument for me came down to a few things. First is static weight. The 98 came in about 10 grams over the 100, which was pretty substantial for me, even though I could get used to the extra weight.
    Second was the power. The 98 is more "control" oriented for guys that can produce all their own power. The 100 offers more help in that area. The 3rd thing was just overall playability. The 100 makes things easier with a bigger sweetspot and more pop.

    Basically the AI 100 is in the same class as the APD, PD, Warrior 100, Wilson Pro Open, Speed MP or Donnay F100. The AI 98 is in the same class as the Blade 98, Radical MP, Pure Strike, Donnay P1 or Volkl V1 Pro.

    About mods I did to the 100....I switched out the stock grip with a Wilson Sublime and that's really it. Use a Sampras O dampener and Gamma Supreme Soft overgrip. Both my AI 100's weigh 333 grams total and have a swingweight around 330.
     
  27. jjs891

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    Jack

    333gms seem a little high for ai100. Does Wilson Sublime grip add more weight than the stock Yonex grip ? I know Yonex grips are on the flimsy side.
     
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    Yes, the Sublime grip added about 5 grams.

    Stock weight was 300 grams + 18 for strings + 5 grip switch + 8 for overgrip + 2 for dampener = 333.
     
  29. naturallight

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    Not sure if this has already been discussed but TW shows the new AI versions are narrower than the Xi versions. The 98 dropped to 9.21” from 9.45” while the 100 dropped to 9.45” from 9.69”.

    By comparison, the Vcore 97 is 9.45”, a Head Prestige is 9.29”, and a Head Speed is 9.61”.

    With that in mind, how is the topspin potential with the new AI versions? Are framing more often?
     
  30. mad dog1

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    frame width of 9+ inches? :shock: no wonder i've been framing everything! :)
     
  31. jstenn13

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    After demo'ing the AI98 for a couple hits I decided to pull the trigger. I bought two of them today. Strung one up with Prince Beast XP 17 at 51 pounds. The demo racquet has the 16 gauge version in it and it hit really nice, but I decided to try the 17 gauge this time. It is a softer poly and because it's round and seems kind of slick it provides nice spin potential, power, and control. FYI I'm a 5.0 to 5.5 rating, somewhere in there, 26 years old, male, aggressive heavy topspin/flat ball mix baseline game. I made the switch from Babolat after 10 years of playing with them. Anyways, for anyone considering the 98 version its a great stick all around. You can hit massive spin but can also hit huge flat balls that explode off the court. I have only used a full poly setup so far but I intend to try a hybrid setup as well, probably with a multi in the crosses. What string setups have you AI98 users tried so far and what have you liked and disliked?
     
  32. parasailing

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    At 5.0 to 5.5 skill level, I don't think the racquet makes that big of a difference :).

    But I would like to know if anyone has demo the Graphene Speed Pro and can compare it to this racquet.
     
  33. jstenn13

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    True, but you do want a racquet that feels good and that compliments your game well and allows you to do the things you want to do. After hitting with a AI98 demo it felt great. I was coming from a lower powered 18x20 frame and I the difference in spin potential and controllable power, with the same strokes, was very noticeable. Yes I can play the same style game with my old racquets but this Yonex allows me to be even better. So for me it was a nice upgrade.
     
  34. bad_call

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    totally agree. btw - what 18x20 were you using?
     
  35. Chuonfood

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    JackB1, thanks for your info, I have a better picture of this now and will use it for comparison.

    jstenn13, before choosing the 98 did you give the ai100 a try? If so, what didn't you like about it?
     
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  37. JackB1

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    he is a 5.0 player. The 98 is more appropriate for him.
     
  38. jstenn13

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    I had been using the Pure Storm LTD GT for about 5 years
     
  39. Matchball

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    So much easier access to power and spin with the Ai 98. The PST LTD GT was plush and very precise, prestige-like precise, sweet and low powered. I have used it for a year myself and also had very good results at tournaments with it.
     
  40. jstenn13

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    No I decided not to try the 100. It would have been too light and powerful for me.
     
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    Yea I fully agree. I enjoyed them for a while too. I decided that I could probably benefit from an open string pattern and a little more pop though. So far so good with the new sticks!
     
  42. JackB1

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    Just tried a full job of Cyclone Tour in my AI 100 and LOVED it. Better than regular Cyclone for me. Gives you really nice pocketing and a softer feel at impact with a livlier stringbed. I am curious how it will be the next few hits, but if it doesn't change too much, this could be my go to setup for this racquet.

    Anyone else try Cyclone Tour in their 100 or 98?
     
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    Cyclone tour will be my next string in the 100 jack. I like the regular cyclone, ut want to try the tour. Really liking the racket...about due to restring so it won't be long for me.
     
  44. mad dog1

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    cyclone fan here, too. cyclone tour has alot more power than regular cyclone so if you do try it, remember to string it up +5#. i tried it +3# and control was still VERY lacking. if i try it again (highly unlikely as i didn't like it much at all), i'll do it up +5 or 6#.
     
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    While I'm waiting my Ai98 to come, I managed to try RDS001 today in my tennis club from a friend and did not like it. Unstable and lack of plow, spin was ok. Maybe some weight could fix it.

    I noticed that spec are pretty close to Ai98. Now I'm afraid that Ai98 would play similar. Did someone played with booth racquets?
     
  46. mad dog1

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    i owned the RDS001 MP. the Ai98 plays differently for sure. alot better IMHO.
     
  47. tennis1111

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    Good news. Thanks.
     
  48. mad dog1

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    the Ai98 is more refined (less harsh), more stable, and more comfortable (not as stiff). hits a bigger ball without sacrificing control. the Ai98 swings easier as well. (the one i have does)
     
  49. JackB1

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    I agree that Cyclone Tour is a bit more powerful than regular Cyclone, but I think 5 lbs is too much of an adjustment. I would go with 2 or 3 lbs, but this is a personal thing of course.
     
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    not sure if I should be asking this here, but I can't seem to find the stringing instructions.
    Same as the Xi 98?
    i.e, Skip Mains 8T - 8B, Tie off Mains 7T, Tie off Crosses 6T-11B?

    Will be cutting out SPPP and putting Cyclone in this weekend.
     

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