Yonex Ai 98: tell me more about her

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  1. Gemini

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    That's why I'm loving this racquet the more I play with it. A neutral racquet for me equals a predictable racquet. I get out of it what I put into it. I played full-on the last four days with this racquet and it's fantastic. When I want power it's there and when I need touch it's there as well. I'm slowly adapting to the way the racquet swings and I'm actually playing it stock right now.

    I have it strung with Tec Razor Code 18 at 52 lbs (NOTE: This is too loose in this racquet) and I'm making it work for now. I'll either go higher in tension with the 18 gauge or move down to 17/16 at the same tension.
     
  2. mad dog1

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    definitely is a very honest, neutral stick that's all about what you put in is what you get from it.

    given how brilliantly 47/44 has worked for me in the RD-Ti80, i'm going to try the same tension w/ my Ai98. i have a feeling it's going to be good.
     
  3. Automatix

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    I don't get it...

    Grip size 1/4 = 3/8 in other frames.
    Grip size 1/4 + overgrip = 3/8.

    That's contradictory or I've missed something which is essential in understanding what you wrote...


    Could you explain?
     
  4. Rozroz

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    yea, my grip feels too small. i hate it. i should have gone with a bigger size :(
     
  5. Automatix

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    But 1/4 is L2, and Max* wrote that it feels like L3 in other frames.
    So Roz*, if you say 'yea' it would be logical if you wrote "my grip feels too big".

    As for the feel of the grip, remember that different grip shape makes a grip feel bigger or smaller.


    * - Hope I didn't offend you guys by using an abbreviation of your nicks.
     
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  6. Rozroz

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    ok yea, now when i read it it is a kinda weird contradiction...
    anyway, for me it felt smaller than usual. or maybe my hands got bigger :p
     
  7. Automatix

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    I'm currently a bit baffled by this too.

    Of course it's all about what fits right to you.

    I always say. Even though you use a grip size 3 from Prince doesn't mean grip size 3 from Head is the right for you. I deliberately named the 2 companies which grip shapes differ the most.

    Also the kind of grips (eastern, western etc.) are crucial in determining your preferred grip size from a specific company. Except for Prince depending on the grip you use the surface and shape of the grip contacting the palm of your hand will be different. Regardless of the used grip, a Prince handle will feel the same. The handle of a Head racquet (the rectangular pallet) will feel very different due to the biggest difference in bevel dimensions.
     
  8. Rozroz

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    i agree. since i used leather on my Dunlop grip i just got hooked on that bevel feel, and since i tried to downsize a 5 size grip, i felt a lot more confident with the overall bigger size feel.
    but now when i bought the Ai i just don't connect with the 3 3/8 at all.
    it all feels just off, bevels seem muted, etc.
    and a cannot get it bigger cause it's too HL for me anyway.
     
  9. Automatix

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    Dunlop has a bit more rectangular shape. The bevel on the continental grip has a bigger contact surface thus feels noticeably different than Yonex.

    I demo quite a bit of frames but stick to Yonex because the grip shape became very natural and comfortable for me.
     
  10. maxpotapov

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    I put an overgrip on it and you were right,

    [​IMG]

    I guess they measure grip size without replacement grip, hence the confusion.
     
  11. Power Player

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    Same here. It is very similar to Wilson, so it works for me.

    Another thing I noticed about the Tour G is the buttcap has more flare on it than my ai98 did. Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but the Tour G grip was very very close to my Wilson racquet grips in feel.
     
  12. maxpotapov

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    Ai 98 Lite has more than enough flare, a bit more than my Dunlop MW 200G.

    The grip shape is very balanced and comfortable, compared to my flattish Head Prestige Mid, roundish Prince Shark MP, squarish Dunlop MW 200G.
     
  13. JackB1

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    all this confusion about grio size is so easy to clarify. Just take a soft tape measure and measure it.

    The Yonex grips are the same as others as long as you keep the stock grip on. If u replace it, you will go up about a half size due to the stock Yonex grips being ultra thin. The Yonex bare pallets measure the same as most everyone else's.
     
  14. maxpotapov

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    Check out my post above,
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=8463272&postcount=1760
     
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    EDITED:
    You guys were right that it's not 3/8 with overgrip, but full 1/2
    Which leads me to conclude that it's 1/4 bare handle that they mark as L2 4 1/4.
     
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  17. JackB1

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    did you change out the original grip?
     
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    No! That's my point. (Sorry I meant "1/4 bare handle" in my previous post)

    Played some more with it tonight. Very very smooth... I'm starting to find its feel, and it feels... noble :)

    This Ai 98 Lite is balanced pretty well for its light weight. I mean I can play with it creatively and hit pretty hard too despite its lack of mass. No discomfort really, probably because its swingweight is still healthy for a non-head heavy "lite" frame.
     
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  19. Power Player

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    Its in the middle really. My 1/4 yonex grips with an OG don't feel quite as big as a 3/8th wilson with an OG for example.
     
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    Yeah the 4 1/4 Tour G I have with Head Hydrosorb grip (took out Yonex grip) feels like my Pure Drive 4 3/8 grip with Babolat thin grip and supergrap overgrip. I can measure when I get home.
     
  22. JackB1

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    the "Great Yonex Gripsize Debate" will rage on! :)

    Roz says its too small, Max says its too big, PP says it a bit larger...
     
  23. JackB1

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    Hey Jo. I have measured many times and they are maybe a hair larger than most with the stock Yonex grip intact. With a Hydrosorb (pretty thick) grip on yours, it should be almost like any other 3/8.
     
  24. Yonextillidie

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    Interesting, I am going through the same dilemma, driving me nuts !
    Love the easy power of the AI, but have to concentrate or it's out the back.
    In a recent club match chose the VCT 97, went fantastic hit hard with no problems, but 4 days on a sore shoulder.
    Have had delivered today a vcore tour G, going straight into a match Saturday with it.
    TG looks great, bouncing ball on string bed feels smooth, VCT 97 I can feel more vibration on a simple drill ?!, looking forward to giving it a go
     
  25. QuadCam

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    I read through this thread a while back, but don't recall it all. IS anyone adding weight to these racquets? I got to hit with the ai98 yesterday. MY arm is hurting these days, so I couldn't really hit hard with the racquet. It felt really light though, but pretty nice though.

    I was able hit some serves though. Serving is where I really felt it needed some mass in the mass. Don't get me wrong.... this stick serves well, but it felt like it could have been a lot more.

    ....and my take on the grip size is that the yonex stock grip feels smaller than other 4 3/8" grips; feels closer in size to a prince 4 1/4" grip.
     
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    I have 4 or 5 gms at 3&9 (plus a slightly heavier grip) which has adjusted the swing weight a little more to my liking and given some more stability against heavy shots. Racquet plays well. Not perfect, but good all round and very dependable. Nice and soft as well, so no arm issues.
     
  27. Carlito

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    I have been playing with this racquet for about 3 weeks now and for the first time in a long time, I have no elbow stiffness. I play it stock with tour bite 18. The only modification I have made is I switched out the grip with Tourna thin grip.
     
  28. Power Player

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    Well I used my tour G with no OG Sunday and it definitely felt smaller than 3/8ths.

    Adding the OG gets it closer to 3/8ths, but it doesn't feel all the way. Close enough though. The main thing is that it works for me, and doesn't slip in my hand.
     
  29. skeeter

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    And don't you normally play with a 1/4 grip size on your racquets?
     
  30. Rozroz

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    it appears i was right after all :twisted:
     
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    I have gone back and forth. I like it right in the middle of the 2 if I had to be picky, so this works perfect.
     
  32. Tee1Up

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    Here are some examples of different racquets grip sizes.
    YONEX AI 100, 4 1/4 with Wilson Pro Overgrip measures 4 1/2
    Wilson Juice 100, 4 3/8 with same Overgrip measures 4 7/16
    Gamma RZR 100M, 4 3/8 with same Overgrip measures 7 7/16

    I have photos of the grips and measurements but don't have enough posts to be able to upload them. If anyone wants to post them for me send me a message and I will send them to you.
     
  33. QuadCam

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    Tee1Up,

    I respectfully disagree with you.

    Here is a picture of an AI98 Demo with a Wilson ProOvergrip. This is a 4 3/8" racquet...... and it measures 4 3/8" with the overgrip. So, my feeling that the stock yonex grip size is under the actual measurement was correct.

    [​IMG]
     
  34. Bartelby

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    I've never played with a Yonex grip that was too large.

    Most are smaller than normal and a few are more or less normal.

    The smaller ones are easily recognised by the base grip which is ultra thin.
     
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    Be glad to send you the photos if you'll post them for me. Send me your email address and I will get them to you.
     
  36. QuadCam

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    Just upload them to photobucket or some other photosharing site..... nd then link to the pics. It's easy.
     
  37. QuadCam

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    here's a shot with the overgrip removed. It looks to be a hair larger than 4 1/4", but you can see the 4 3/8" label on the beam of the AI98.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ok, so now that all is settled, what's next? :p
     
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    seemed to be a lot of players using this stick at Wimbledon - at least 2 females + nick k. pretty popular for yonex!
     
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    Can anyone recommend a gut main, poly cross setup for power and spin with this frame? Thanks
     
  43. JackB1

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    Settled???

    There are pics showing them larger than what they are supposed to be and pics showing them smaller than they are supposed to be!

    I measured all my 4 1/4" Yonex's when I had them and they all were the same as other 4 3/8's racquets once I replaced the stock grip.

    The Great Yonex Gripsize Controversy Will NEVER be solved!!! :)
     
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    Try Babolat Vs touch main with Luxilon Alu power crosses. Best hybrid setup IMO.
     
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    I cut out the crap strings in my demo and strung it up with VS Gut Black @55 w/ Co-Focus 1.23 @ 50. I plyed 2 usta matches with it, and it was fantastic. My opponents kept referring to my "magic spin" as I had several shots dip inside the lines at the last second.

    Power was great,too. No complaints on serving.

    I liked it all so much, I just bought an ai98 from TW !! :)
     
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    I noticed that too. I saw 3 women playing with them. Ivanovic, Vandeweghe, and an asian woman I didn't know.

    On the men's side, Kyrgios rocked it in that great battle over Gasquet !!!!
     
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    i am currently on Pacific Gut classic / 4G and its doing great. tension 57/53
     
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    I like this racquet, it is very easy on the arm and I just added it to my list of top 10 arm friendly racquets. The specs are good as far as weight, balance and flexibility. In addition it includes the new dual shot system technology using special grommets and a shock absorbing gel in the handle to reduce vibration.
     
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    Just to clarify are you guys experiencing the grip 2s are larger than than Wilson equivalents?

    When I had a grip 2 ai98 I found I with my traditional pro open grip rule of skin feel and two over grips it came out larger than the pro open at grip 2.

    My feeling was the grip 2 was larger . it just didn't feel right with two overwraps on compared the the 2 ovewraps on top of the skin feel with the pro open.

    With one overwrap felt too small.


    I'm thinking I will need to use a grip 3 next time and one overwrap.
     
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    Strings

    Anyone think that the Ezone ai98 is string sensitive like the TW reviews?
     

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