Yonex: RD TI 80 vs RQIS Tour

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  1. eman resu

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    I'm looking for a new racquet to replace my Ozone Tour and these seem good based on specs. Can anyone compare them?
    Both are the heavier versions, I guess, at around 320g unstrung, and cost the same, used.

    I was looking for something a bit more solid and stable than the Ozone Tour, but still maneuverable and comfortable. I have na all court game and like to go to the net when I can. I'm currently using a stock POG 110 at 365g but I get tired during 3 sets of singles. I could use something a bit lighter for singles and keep the POG for doubles, where the oversized head really helps my reflexes and the solid feel is much apreciated.

    My other alternative would be a Head MG Radical OS, a bit weighted at the handle and maybe some guard tape around the head.
     
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  2. basil J

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    where are you going to find a new TI 80? It is a great frame, but has been discontinued for a while now.
     
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    not new, used. They're all used, I can't afford new ones here. Too expensive.
     
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    I'm between 4 racquets right now:

    Yonex RQIS Tour
    Yonex RD TI 80
    Head Microgel Radical OS
    Head Microgel Prestige MP (edit: shipping made it too expensive for now)

    they all cost the same, except for the Radical, which is cheaper. I would replace the head's pallets with Wilson ones I have, and that would probably make them more HL, too.

    Any thoughts comparing them, even though they're quite diferente racquets?

    I'm an all court player, 1hbh, like to volley and chip slices, but also like to use some spin on forehand and serves. I'd like some forgiveness, but not necessarily need extra power.

    thanks
     
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  5. eman resu

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    If you have any experience with the Light version of the RD TI 80 feel free to share it.

    I'm a bit concerned with the weight of yonex frames. I've read that the grips are very light, so if I replaced them with a cushion aire + overgrip it might become too close to my POG in terms of weight, and I was hopong to stay at around 350-355g. The yonex are 4 3/8 and I use 4 1/2
     
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    Do a search in the racquet section on the TI 80. It has been discussed in great detail. It is a good frame that plays pretty comfy and is a great all court option. I used it for a year or so before moving onto even more comfy frames due to an ailing shoulder. Never used the lite version. Good luck
     
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    My main stick is the RQIS 1 Tour XL, which has the same static weight and balance as the RD TI 80 Lite. I recently bought a couple of those for fun. I also, have an RQIS 1 Tour, that is a slightly heavier, slightly more flexy version of the XL.

    The XL and RD TI Lite play pretty similarly in some regards, but with the above specs being the same, you can pinpoint the differences. I am willing to bet that the RQIS 1 Tour and non-Lite RD TI 80 probably have the similar differences. The RQIS XL is more plush, more forgiving, and more powerful. The RQISes are both widebodies.

    With a thinner beam, the RD TI 80 Lite has a great precise feel--love it with full bed natural or synthetic gut--but it really requires more of a swing to get the ball cooking. I enjoy playing with them, but I wouldn't use them in matches at my current level (high-ish 3.5). I find that I have trouble playing defense with them at this point. Wears you out.

    The RQIS 1 Tour (black/red) plays mostly like the RQIS XL, but is somewhere in the middle of the XL and RD TI80 Lite on power-level. Adding a little lead tape to the head of the RQIS 1 Tour makes it sufficiently powerful, but it puts the weight too high for my liking.


    Short answer: If you have developed strokes, go for either Yonex that you asked about. The RD TI 80 Lite is particularly demanding.
    Being a serve/volleyer, you might be better suited to the thin-beamed, feel-oriented RD TI 80 Lite. These are all three great low-powered, control oriented racquets, but the XL is the closest to mid-powered.

    Edit: PS, I heard that the RD TI 80 Lite is simply the regular model in the smaller grip sizes (3/8 and under.) Any truth to this?
     
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    wow, thanks for the answers! Right now, I'm leaning towards the RD Ti 80 because of its thinner beam. My CTS has a tapered beam (20-24) and I don't like the feel of it (not sure if the beam width has anything to do with it).
    I can't demo here, so I'm on a blind buy based on specs and opinions. =/
     
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    I have probably played about ten hours of tennis with the Ti80 Lites, but in that time, I have found:

    - I much prefer full bed gut (Tonic) or syn gut (Prince Lightning) than I do my normal set-up (Cyberflash mains and one of the above in the crosses.) It's already low-powered enough (doesn't need the poly) and the gut emphasizes the strength (namely, feel) of the frame more than does a poly hybrid.

    - I find that I play much better with my regular stick after warming up with the Ti80 Lites. I have noticed the same thing if I warm up with a wooden racquet. The racquet doesn't give you much in terms of power, and good technique is rewarded.


    From a user review at the site where I bought my 80 Lites:
    This racquet is the modern day version of the classic R-22 from the 1980s that I once used. I generate my own power so I demand a stick with some old school soul and feel. It's traditional Yonex punch and spin is great. Being a kid of the 80s, Mine strung at 52 lbs and they FEEL great. I wouldn't be afraid of dropping a little lower. I hate wide body racquets and anything wider than 21-22mm is wide. Classics never go out of style.
     
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    yesssssss.....come to the yonex side and taste the sweet goodness of the square-headed cookies.....mmmmmmmmmm.....


    ...creepiness aside, I cannot contrast the two racquets you've mentioned, but I can tell you a couple things about the rqis tours.

    the tour 1 (red & black "sith" stick)> I find this racquet to have more control than the tour xl ( the blue and yellow "Swedish" stick). it plays just a bit more flexible than the other. I both this one first after trying both because the placement of my serve was better with the tour 1. I know that you said that you were turned off by the wideness of the beam, but I don't think i'd call this a power racquet by any stretch; however, if you're concerned about catching the frame on the ball because of your swing path then that's still an issue. I've found that I needed to add a bit of pop to mine to make it work for me, so I string it with tnt2 17 ga. in the mains and gosen og 17 in the crosses. I like to use this racquet indoors during the winter or during the summer when its hot and still.

    the tour xl (blue and yellow "Swedish" stick)> I found this racquet to have more pop than the black and red tour 1. I like to use these when its cooler outdoors (spring and fall), when conditions are heavy or anytime I need a little more pop (constantly hitting into the wind, etc.). I've found this racquet works best for me when I string it to tame its power slightly (I love 'em strung with yonex tour super 850 pro 16 @ 59-60# but I might be nuts! :twisted:).

    if you are getting them used, please check the pics closely. there are U.S. versions of both of these sticks (the tour1 and the tour xl). I've only ever played with the U.S. versions so I have no idea what the difference would be (I have heard the weight is a bit different but that is just hearsay).

    both of these sticks are thinnest in the throat and it feels like they flex there the most. both of them have great spin potential.

    enjoy your yonexes, pass the cookies counterclockwise and make your next opponent or hitting partner a believer in the yy!!!!
     
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  12. eman resu

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    Thanks, very interesting. I use syn gut, so this comment pretty much is spot on. However, I fear that I'd be getting a super demanding frame, and not something that would make my life a bit easier at a third set.
     
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    It's not the power that concerns me with widebeams, it's the feel. I fear it micht feel "stiffer", "harsher", "metalic", "alloyish" or whatever word you can use... not being able to demo sucks :(
     
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    if you came over, i'd let you try one of mine :)
     
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    Sure... Do you live in Brazil?
     
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    can you compare these racquets to the Wilson 6.0 95 I have or the Rok I sold (the rqis 1 tour looks like a spinny version of that one, with its low power)?
     
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    give or take several thousand miles... :neutral:
     
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    TOday I was Lucky and hit with a yonex for the first time. It was a RDX 300 MP. How close was I to these Yonex? The seller sent me pics of the 2, and they seem to be the light versions, 295 unstrung for the rqis tour and UL version for the Ti 80. Does that change anything? I liked the 300 after some adjustement, but was surprised that it had so little power.
     
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    Sorry guys, things have changed! No more Rqis. I can buy on of these Yonex, NEW, cheaper than the previous ones:

    Ultimum RD TI 80
    MP Tour 1 MP

    So, any thoughts?? Booth seem to be the heavy version, both 98 sq in and HL unstrung (the TI more).
     
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  20. eman resu

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    Just bought the Ultimum RD TI 80. I think it was the best option in terms of cost and benefit. Strung with dunlop syn gut at 55 lbs. Feels good in hand, hope it works for me. Thanks for the help.
     
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