Yonex RDiS 200 Tour

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  1. Dgdavid

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    was just about to ask about strings. The two ex-demo I bought had some strings i dont recognise so need them replaced. I would normally go RPM Blast at 48lbs. What do you think? 45?
     
  2. Seth

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    For anyone curious: Yonex Poly Tour Pro (the neon green string) is wonderful in this frame strung around mid-tension. Also enjoyed Solinco Tour Bite around mid-tension.
     
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    What's great abut the poly tour pro? Feel..spin..control..durability..comfort? I may try it.

    I'd just stay with that at first and then adjust from there. I always start with my preferred setup
     
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    For me it was ball-pocketing and feel. Spin was great too.
     
  6. Power Player

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    Cool..I like the sound of that.

    This racquet is so fun. If you like the exo tour, but hated the lack of power on serve and how hard it was to flatten out winners, this is a great demo. It is like the Tfight 320 with a lot more feel and comfort.
     
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    Oh so glad to be back

    Just picked up two of these after a short hiatus, man did I miss these things. One was strung with gut/poly and the other with full poly at 50/48. Havne played much with the full poly because the gut/poly is so sweet but it did still seem a little stiff the few times I did hit with it. I will restring the gut/poly with a full job of Poly Tour HS 16L and go 47/45.
    There's really nothing these sticks cant do and dont do very well. Serve, groundies, volleys. I really dont feel there are any weaknesses. Im just glad to be back and will be for a while.
     
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    Sorry if it's been dealt with before, but is the RDiS 200 Tour basically the RD Ti-80 Lite, but with an extra millimeter or two or beamwidth? I mean, does it basically play like the Ti-80 Lite being as it is in roughly the same ballpark??:confused:
     
  9. corners

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    It's not really in the same ballpark at all.

    Ti-80 Lite has what have become the classic specs of the "light players'" category: 330 grams / 32 cm balance / 310 swingweight. Relatively heavy, headlight, low swingweight.

    The Rdis 200 is similar in terms of weight and balance (332 grams, 32 cm balance) but has a much higher swingweight of 326. The way these two racquets swing is quite different, and the Rdis 200 bullies the ball such that you'd have to put 5 grams of lead at 12 o'clock on the Ti-80 Lite to match it in plowthrough and intrinsic power.
     
  10. sansaephanh

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    Guys I'm looking to hop into this racket asap. Sounds great. diablo tours are just too heavy for me to be hitting 5 hours a day. I need something solid and lighter. This racket just keeps sounding better and better... What racket would you guys say this racket compares to the most in terms of FEEL. I'm big on feel since i try to hit everything from dinky shots to huge counter punches.
     
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  12. Power Player

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    The feel is really excellent. Like a fusion of wilson meets head. Flexible but not a noodle.
     
  13. sansaephanh

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    I hate the paint job, but i'll figure something out about that at a later date. lol.

    This racket sounds like it might fit my game more then a heavier mid. I'm always looking for a bigger sweetspot as well. What do you guys think about grip sizes. I usually play a thin prince L3(3/8ths) but recently i've been playing around with L4-L5 and it's pretty comfy. I kind of missed the whippy feel for my serve, but enjoy the slightly more solid feel for my groundies.

    is there a RDiS Tour? or is that just a mislabel by the OP?
     
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    I am curious about this, too...I've only seen the MP and Lite MP.
     
  15. Power Player

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    The tour is the MP..its the one you want..it weighs 320 grams.

    The PJ is not awesome, but I like it more than I thought I would. It's pretty unique and I thought verdasco looked cool the few weeks he was using it.
     
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    Yeah I was just making absolutely sure.

    What do you guys think about the sweet spot. I've really taken a liking to rounder rackets, like the head speed, because it seems to shift the sweetspot ever so higher. I've heard that yonex's might be the highest because of the isometic tech. Do you guys feel this to be true?
     
  17. Power Player

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    It's higher on the 200 than on the 95D. I hit higher on the bed, so I think this is another reason I love the racquet so much.
     
  18. sansaephanh

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    How's the sweet spot? I already love it since it's higher up, but what racket do you think it has a similar sweet spot to? Is it big or small for a 98?
     
  19. Power Player

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    Its huge. It matters how you play though. If you are not a spin hitter who likes pace, you may not jive with the stick. Honestly with poly in the 50s, the racquet trajectory was rather low and I was struggling a little with trajectory. but that is me and I really like gut poly and setups that hit with some boom. With full poly strung at 42/40 the racquet plays like a 110 OS..I kid you not. I feel like the sweet spot is the entire size of the racquet..lol.

    As for similar..it feels similar to the wilson juice pro which I have hit with. I like it better than the JP. It's just easier to use and the feel is easily equal or better.

    for anyone using this stick, I can confidentially suggest yonex poly tour pro string at 42/40 with no lead, a dampener and overgrip. I have all yonex (dampener, supergrap) on this thing and I absolutely love the setup. Have not thought about lead or anything else besides strings in months. I just go hit balls and play matches.
     
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  20. tistrapukcipeht

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    Has anybody played with the RDIS 200 Light? I'm thinking about that one, at my local for $109 with a free stringing and a string.

    Power, you don't like the paint job???

    Man, I thought it is a beautiful paint job as it can be, also classy with that white mix. it looks better than the Xi's I have.
     
  21. Rozroz

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    also wondering about the lite version, though it doesn't seem to be as popular as the regular, which might be too heavy for me.

    i now use the pre 2012 PDGT which is around 300g unstrung..
    all your enthusiasm and the bargain price for a stick to grow with seem like a winner, but after trying to lead the PDGT and playing at around 337g i felt fatigued, and with wrist pain.
    i need something around the PDGT weight, and i really like all the Yonex reviews and build quality. damn, 90$!!
     
  22. tistrapukcipeht

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    Hey man, how are you?

    My only concern is that the lite version seems to be too soft/or too flexible, I don't like racquets that flex a lot, but many that use the regular version (320g) say that racquet is a spin machine, that would please me, I could also use higher tension and see what happens.

    Yonex for $90, is like Ice cream in front a fat kid on diet!:twisted:
     
  23. Rozroz

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    so what r u gonna do? i cannot demo any raquet here in Israel.
    what's your options? did you demo it already?

    all the people here seems to have crazy weights (340-350g), always adding lead. i'm not up for those heights. i must stay at a 327 strung TOPS!
     
  24. tistrapukcipeht

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    I have nopt demoed it, however I'm probably going to buy a couple, and also wait for the vcore 100 Xi, and compare all of them with my strings at the same tension and see what I like more. Ezone Xi really delivers for me in everything as well, that is why I'm not worried, if I were in your position I'd definitely buy one, figure out the string set up and tension and then play with it for another month or 2 and figure out to whether stock or not.
     
  25. karth500

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    I was in the same boat. I decided to go with the "lite" version and it's plenty heavy enough for me. Plays pretty similar to its heftier cousin I thought. I don't notice any stability issues either. Slightly more power perhaps. You might need a lower powered string. Mantis comfort synthetic at 57-60 works pretty well for me.
     
  26. Rozroz

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    i have to admit that the bargain price is the highlight of thinking about refreshing from the PDGT. buying the lite this blindly might be too much of a risk.
    (no i cannot demo racquets in Israel)
    i'm not a racquet changer by any means. i prefer a good one that will fit my gameplay. the PDGT feels pretty fine on groundstrokes and serves. volley however is decent/poor in feel. the PD does feel a bit hollow as many people say.
    i won't mind keeping the power, and gaining feel and comfort with 98 size.
     
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  27. Rozroz

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    sorry for forgetting this:

    so you demoed them both before buying?
    what's your level? gameplay? how long did you demo both racquets?
    how much did you play with your new lite version since buying?

    thanks!
     
  28. tistrapukcipeht

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    You're not buying a car, it's just a racquet, Yonex, and cheap, I can guarantee it will be better than pure drive, nothing can be as bad as pure drive/aero prodrive.:)
     
  29. Rozroz

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    well for me 100$ is a lot of money and i cannot demo any racquets so it's not so fair treating this decision like it's just another racquet. all i have is the PDGT and i try to hang on to it..
     
  30. Power Player

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    The Pure Drive is one of my favorite sticks ever. It is just rather stiff and I like how flexy sticks play. Easier to hit returns with and has much better feel. It is also easier on the joints to use a flexible racquet (regardless the brand).

    The regular 200 is an easy racquet to use and it gets as much if not more spin than the Pure Drive. The power level is not as high, but I get a lot of power with it regardless and dont want any more. I do string my poly lower in the 40s, so that does help with the power, but I prefer the feel of low tension in my racquets.

    If you like to serve spin serves, work the ball around the court before hitting a big winner and like versatility, the 200 is ideal. It is a very good racquet because you can play any style of tennis with it. I am a baseliner, but I will drop shot.lob when needed, grind when needed, and attack with heavy balls when needed as well. You can also serve and volley with this thing, so it is simply adaptable to whatever you want.

    This is a very easy stick to use, but you need to have proper timing and technique to discover the power of the racquet. If you do not have proper strokes or string too tight, you may find this racquet to send balls short, but once you dial in your tension the power is exceptional.
     
  31. Rozroz

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    many thanks, power player.
    i was hoping you'll shed some light on this.
    can you please tell me your level? (4.0?5.0?)
    i presume you're younger than me (i'm 39) and also more psychically capable..
    my dilemma is not whether to buy the RDiS or not.. i'll buy it right now. it's whether to get the lighter version or not (my strung 327g PDGT feels pretty enough for me as it is).. when i had lead on the PD i was getting off timing, fatigued, etc.. so i had to take all lead off.
     
  32. bad_call

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    not PP here but last outing/match with PP he played 4.5 level. think PP is maybe 30 yrs old or so. myself being 60 and using the same stick (stock RDiS 200) tho recently switched from Dunlop 4D 100 leaded to ~350g.
     
  33. Power Player

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    Bad Call is serve and volleying with this stick..its freaking awesome.

    I personally like my sticks around 335-345 and so I would suggest the regular version.
     
  34. bad_call

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    have to...u kill me if i stay on the baseline.
     
  35. Seth

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    bad_call, what string set-up are/were you using in your 200?
     
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    on the 1st string job (new to the yy200) which is B5E/NVy at 52/52. think 9 hrs+ on the strings and still good. maybe try B5E/BBO next time at 52/50 to see how it does.
     
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    YY PTP at 50 pounds is where I'm sitting now. Thinking of hybriding Tourna BHSR and Gosen OGSM. I like the full poly bed, but I'm wondering if a hybrid will be more rewarding at net (which is where I spend a good deal of time).
     
  38. Power Player

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    ^^^

    Depending on your budget, gut mains poly crosses at net is blissful. If that is too pricey, I definitely think a hybrid will help you.
     
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    if at net more then definitely a poly/syn gut for this player. not sure about your posted combo but if it works for u then won't poo-poo it like some other posters... lol
     
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    thanks for your input.
    i just don't know.. i feel there's a whole lot of difference if we played as kids or not, and if we have enough muscle to handle 320+ weight.
    the Yonex might be built in the best possible way to conserve the energy and give you a more light feel when playing.
    the question is when you really start feeling fatigue and off time because the arms/wrist initially get exhausted from dealing with the weight.
    i'm truly amazed how many people here immediately start "pouring the lead" and get to 350g otherwise it feels too light.. from 3.5 level and up!
    so it's either i'm missing something, or i'm not up for the "330+" club.
    again, the PDGT with lead at 3, 9 & 12 (337g total) was definitely TOO MUCH.
     
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    If that is the case, go light. We are all different. I just swing too fast with lighter sticks and end up putting lead on them so the racquet lays back easier. I used a pure drive roddick 2012 and found that too light, so I had to lead it up.

    It is all about timing..you want to hit out in front over and over again..not late and not early. Takes some time and stroke development to figure it out. I grew up using sticks that were around 12.5 zs and SW around 320ish. When I came back to tennis I started looking for heavier sticks like that and in practice and hitting more open stance, swinging faster ended up really liking things to peak close to 12 or 12.1.
     
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    that's what i meant ;)
    you are used to extra heavy sticks since childhood.
    i wonder how many other players here that only started playing a 5-10 years pick a 340 stick just like that.
    the thing about the Lite is that not many people tried it to tell how good it is compared to the 320g.
     
  43. Power Player

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    I know thats what you meant. And what I meant is that you should go with the lite..lol.the facts are that you will be taking a chance since many of us have never used it.

    But honestly, 12.5 is not extra heavy. I have no idea your strength or fitness level, but if you are a guy who is playing 4.5 that means you have strong stroke technique and should easily be able to handle the 200.
     
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    I just bought 3 of the heavier version. I wanted to try based on specs and the reviews, as well as price, and was concerned about TW running out of stock before my demo arrived. After only an hour on the ball machine (so not much to go on), I can say that it hits like the Fischer M. Pro No.1 (but more directional control, slightly more power), the RD Ti-80 (but lighter and more powerful), and the C-10 Pro (but lighter). But because it's flexy and slightly more powerful and lighter than the aforementioned frames, I can see how it might take some getting used to. That said, IMO this frame is more user friendly than any of the other three.
     
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    you're tearing me up here!!
    you might be right, if my PDGT is now 327 strung with OG and dampener then the 200 will be 'around' 333.. that's not a big difference.. with the fact that you say it's easy to maneuver all around.
    it's not that i couldn't handle the weight.. i'll play pretty great but after a day or two with 2-4 hours of hitting i'll get pretty fatigued and with wrist pain. so i don't know, maybe the Yonex easiness on the arm also helps?

    and how is 'bad call' handling his 200? when do you guys feel fatigued?
    remember, when you'll turn 39 you'll miss the physic state you are now.
     
  46. bad_call

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    being an "oldie", can't stay out there all day and trade shots. need my afternoon nap. so gotta make it happen and take chances. the 200 is stock so it's lighter than 350g (previous racquet) along with having larger headsize (98 vs 90).
     
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    BC plays like he is 35 so he may be a bad example..lol. We can play for 3-4 hours at a time at the peak of the Florida sun (not recommended) .
     
  48. Rozroz

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    so you also played with heavier sticks as a kid?
    and what made you change from the prostuff (guessing) to this more forgiving frame?

    you guys are serious !
    i ditched the summer daylight sessions. this is too much! Israel is around 33c and 80% humid...
     
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    didn't take up tennis til college after military service. played with Wilson JK PS woodie back then. the yy200 had my interest/curiosity for a while and PP got one. after trying his decided to get one and give it a go. wanted something a little easier to play (> 90 in head). that's where i'm at now.

    can't usually make tennis at night since court lights are mostly crap and that's when i drink beer. :)
     
  50. Rozroz

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    that's it. ordered the heavy 200.
    sending you the bill for wrist fracture treatment ;)
     

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